Puppy recommendation for a 6 year old?

[SouthernMdRocks]

Where do you think the nutty dogs in shelters or rescues come from?

I wish the prez would get a rescue doodle, that's a great breed, but I think he's leaning towards a porti. hey send that doodle info to the prez!!

That doodle at PG is so cute!!!!Hi Happy!

 

[vraiblonde]

Okay, so we have determined that you can get a bad dog from a shelter, rescue or breeder. You will likely never know what breed exactly your new dog is, nor will you be comfortable that the dog won't bite your child's face off regardless of where you get it. Anything else?

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

Pssst...there's a difference between a shelter and a reputable rescue.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

But you can get puppies from a shelter.


Either way, I think it's hilarious that certain people biatch and moan about the "hoops" that rescues go through when you want to adopt an animal. DUH. They do it for a reason. They want to make sure the animal and new owners are a good fit (and any reputable breeder also has applications). So it can't be both ways. You can't biatch about rescues making you jump through hoops and then turn around and say rescue dogs are wildcards like the rescues don't give a crap who gets the dogs And rescues are all different, so you have to find the one that works for you.

When I went to pull a couple pups the other day at Tri County, they had about 15 puppies there. They ranged from about 6 weeks to 4mos and sooooo cute!

 

[vraiblonde]

Now the foster home comes along that has kids and they never have an issue, so was the previous owner honest?

Maybe it was aggressive in their home but the rescue knew how to curb it better? :shrug:

Who knows, but one of our sponsors is a breeder and every time I see those puppy pics I want to snuggle them and smell their stinky breath. (But not take one home)

 

[cattitude]

Maybe it was aggressive in their home but the rescue knew how to curb it better? :shrug:

Who knows, but one of our sponsors is a breeder of MIXED BREEDS and every time I see those puppy pics I want to snuggle them and smell their stinky breath. (But not take one home)

:fixed:

 

[thatguy]

I have to disagree, many of the dogs we pull from the shelter are there because owner's lie. They will take a dog and say it's not housebroke - hmm... imagine when the foster home has that dog and has never seen an accident... So was the dog 'not housebroke' or were the previous owner's too lazy to pay attention? The owner says it's not good w/children... ah, that makes it much easier to drop it off at the shelter, that way they have a good reason and they can sleep at night.... Now the foster home comes along that has kids and they never have an issue, so was the previous owner honest? Or did they have the type of kids that pulled hair, tried to carry the dog around all the time or what???




Many times because they are too lazy to work with an issue they created to start with.

You are going to have rescues that aren't completely honest, you have MORE THAN A FAIR SHARE of BYB's and puppy mills that have NO idea what honesty is and by buying one of their dogs you are investing in misery and a number of these dogs wind up at the shelter as the owners can't handle what was bred into them...

And it still amazes me how many people with young kids will contact us to adopt one of our dogs and then get offended when we won't place them with kids....

i agree, people lie to make themselves feel better. but they also lie to make themselves not feel bad for dropping off a dog they know will get put down. For instance a box that has biten children in the house more than once. i am sure many owners faced with that situation say the dog has no issues or makes something up so its not immediately put on death row.
So you get hat on both sides, some good dogs are represented as bad, and others are bad but represented as good. the ones in between are there because they really were a problem. We can debate all day about how much of a problem a dog has to be for each of us to drop it off at the pound, but
the reality is, many of them are there for legitamate reasons.


BTW, i dont know that making theoretical excuses for a dog that has been represented as aggressive towards children makes you look all that great as a rescue. i would think you would want to represent that you are first and formost concerned with ensuring the dogs are safe pets and not a liability.

 

[cattitude]

i For instance a box that has biten children in the house more than once. i am sure many owners faced with that situation say the dog has no issues or makes something up so its not immediately put on death row.

Killer box?

So you get hat on both sides, some good dogs are represented as bad, and others are bad but represented as good. the ones in between are there because they really were a problem. We can debate all day about how much of a problem a dog has to be for each of us to drop it off at the pound, but the reality is, many of them are there for legitamate reasons.


BTW, i dont know that making theoretical excuses for a dog that has been represented as aggressive towards children makes you look all that great as a rescue. i would think you would want to represent that you are first and formost concerned with ensuring the dogs are safe pets and not a liability.

She is. If anything, a good home may be passed up because the rescue doesn't feel it's the perfect home.

 

[frequentflier]

i agree, people lie to make themselves feel better. but they also lie to make themselves not feel bad for dropping off a dog they know will get put down. For instance a box that has biten children in the house more than once. i am sure many owners faced with that situation say the dog has no issues or makes something up so its not immediately put on death row.
So you get hat on both sides, some good dogs are represented as bad, and others are bad but represented as good. the ones in between are there because they really were a problem. We can debate all day about how much of a problem a dog has to be for each of us to drop it off at the pound, but
the reality is, many of them are there for legitamate reasons.


BTW, i dont know that making theoretical excuses for a dog that has been represented as aggressive towards children makes you look all that great as a rescue. i would think you would want to represent that you are first and formost concerned with ensuring the dogs are safe pets and not a liability.

Man, I am going to have to check all the boxes in my house to make sure they don't bite. Oh, wait, I don't have kids so it shouldn't be an issue

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

I have to disagree, many of the dogs we pull from the shelter are there because owner's lie. They will take a dog and say it's not housebroke - hmm... imagine when the foster home has that dog and has never seen an accident... So was the dog 'not housebroke' or were the previous owner's too lazy to pay attention? The owner says it's not good w/children... ah, that makes it much easier to drop it off at the shelter, that way they have a good reason and they can sleep at night.... Now the foster home comes along that has kids and they never have an issue, so was the previous owner honest? Or did they have the type of kids that pulled hair, tried to carry the dog around all the time or what???




Many times because they are too lazy to work with an issue they created to start with.

You are going to have rescues that aren't completely honest, you have MORE THAN A FAIR SHARE of BYB's and puppy mills that have NO idea what honesty is and by buying one of their dogs you are investing in misery and a number of these dogs wind up at the shelter as the owners can't handle what was bred into them...

And it still amazes me how many people with young kids will contact us to adopt one of our dogs and then get offended when we won't place them with kids....

I have seen some kids who are terrible with the family pets and then I see the parents either totally oblivious to it or just don't give a shiat until the pet finally bites, scratches or kicks the brats.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

i agree, people lie to make themselves feel better. but they also lie to make themselves not feel bad for dropping off a dog they know will get put down. For instance a box that has biten children in the house more than once. i am sure many owners faced with that situation say the dog has no issues or makes something up so its not immediately put on death row.
So you get hat on both sides, some good dogs are represented as bad, and others are bad but represented as good. the ones in between are there because they really were a problem. We can debate all day about how much of a problem a dog has to be for each of us to drop it off at the pound, but
the reality is, many of them are there for legitamate reasons.


BTW, i dont know that making theoretical excuses for a dog that has been represented as aggressive towards children makes you look all that great as a rescue. i would think you would want to represent that you are first and formost concerned with ensuring the dogs are safe pets and not a liability.

First, do you ever read your responses before you hit submit?
How was what was stated a "theoretical excuse"? I took home a young dog the other day from the shelter. Owner surrender as the dog "does not like children". That dog viciously kissed my children all the way home. I have yet to hear him growl, snap or get crappy with anyone. His hair was so matted and while shaving him down, had to be painful, he never once got nasty. I can say that this pup is not aggressive and likes anyone kind to him. But, when he goes up for adoption, anyone interested in him WILL be told what the owners stated.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

Killer box?




I had one of those once!!

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

Man, I am going to have to check all the boxes in my house to make sure they don't bite. Oh, wait, I don't have kids so it shouldn't be an issue

 

[thatguy]

First, do you ever read your responses before you hit submit?
How was what was stated a "theoretical excuse"? I took home a young dog the other day from the shelter. Owner surrender as the dog "does not like children". That dog viciously kissed my children all the way home. I have yet to hear him growl, snap or get crappy with anyone. His hair was so matted and while shaving him down, had to be painful, he never once got nasty. I can say that this pup is not aggressive and likes anyone kind to him. But, when he goes up for adoption, anyone interested in him WILL be told what the owners stated.

you re free to ignore or down play or whatever you want, but the fact of the matter is that the dog has a history of being aggressive with children if that is what the previous owner claimed. OBVIOUSLY you should tell any potential adoptors exactly what was relayed to you without qualification.

 

[frequentflier]

First, do you ever read your responses before you hit submit?
How was what was stated a "theoretical excuse"? I took home a young dog the other day from the shelter. Owner surrender as the dog "does not like children". That dog viciously kissed my children all the way home. I have yet to hear him growl, snap or get crappy with anyone. His hair was so matted and while shaving him down, had to be painful, he never once got nasty. I can say that this pup is not aggressive and likes anyone kind to him. But, when he goes up for adoption, anyone interested in him WILL be told what the owners stated.

Recently, there was one man that had a cat that wanted to adopt a dog that had a cat issue. He INSISTED this was the dog for him. Over and over, he was told that this dog was not good with cats. He said "the dog could change"
I finally looked at him straight in the eye and said "This dog will NOT be adopted to you no matter what; since you have a cat." He was not happy but because this foster family knows the dog and knows it's should NOT be placed in a home with a cat, it will not be.
Turns out, another family fell in love with this dog and I believe the adoption is in the works. They do not have cats and know and accept that the dog does not like cats.

 

[migtig]

you re free to ignore or down play or whatever you want, but the fact of the matter is that the dog has a history of being aggressive with children if that is what the previous owner claimed. OBVIOUSLY you should tell any potential adoptors exactly what was relayed to you without qualification.

You are such an intentional idiot. So since you are being so obtuse, please let us all know how many dogs you have, since you are claiming such extensive knowledge.

 

[cattitude]

You are such an intentional idiot. So since you are being so obtuse, please let us all know how many dogs you have, since you are claiming such extensive knowledge.

Are you sure "it" is who you think it is? Sounds like Nutsack to me.

 

[SouthernMdRocks]

you re free to ignore or down play or whatever you want, but the fact of the matter is that the dog has a history of being aggressive with children if that is what the previous owner claimed. OBVIOUSLY you should tell any potential adoptors exactly what was relayed to you without qualification.

I can tell you that the care of that dog was so lame and they didn't want to have to properly care for him...brush or groom! There is no downplay, they were lazy or cheap or both. I would venture to say, they were not honest about why they were ditching him. But, nonetheless, his so called "history" will be disclosed. It is what it is and he will redeem himself as the sweetie he is. Nuff said!!

 

[Cowgirl]

I can tell you that the care of that dog was so lame and they didn't want to have to properly care for him...brush or groom! There is no downplay, they were lazy or cheap or both. I would venture to say, they were not honest about why they were ditching him. But, nonetheless, his so called "history" will be disclosed. It is what it is and he will redeem himself as the sweetie he is. Nuff said!!

I wouldn't even bother arguing with him. Some people are clueless.

 

[vraiblonde]

Recently, there was one man that had a cat that wanted to adopt a dog that had a cat issue. He INSISTED this was the dog for him. Over and over, he was told that this dog was not good with cats. He said "the dog could change"
I finally looked at him straight in the eye and said "This dog will NOT be adopted to you no matter what; since you have a cat." He was not happy but because this foster family knows the dog and knows it's should NOT be placed in a home with a cat, it will not be.
Turns out, another family fell in love with this dog and I believe the adoption is in the works. They do not have cats and know and accept that the dog does not like cats.

Then, using the rationalization others are using, why didn't you let the guy have the dog? Maybe it just didn't like certain cats and would have liked this one just fine.

I agree with thatguy - if someone has turned in an animal because it was aggressive or wasn't good with kids, the shelter/rescue should disclose that information and let the adoptee decide for themselves if they want to take the chance. Because I'm telling you, if I got a dog from a rescue and they knew the dog was aggressive toward children and didn't tell me, then the dog bit one of my kids, there would be one hell of a lawsuit.