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kbeachcat123

Jack Russells RULE!
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/policybriefs/pb2004-02.html

I'm not a lawyer but the ex is getting social security disability (SSD) which means that if I pay child support then that could be counted as reportable income so the ex will lose money in the long run. That's why the SSD recipients don't pursue child support. Hmm. I WANT to support my child but if I do, then they are both scr@wed by the Government.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
kbeachcat123 said:
I didn't WANT to give my kid up. I made a major mistake, and YES I F'd up. There is no point in reliving my pain for your judgement.

Sorry.
Can you get the child back?
 

Debbie92454

New Member
Mr. Cusick,
I wasn't referring to any physical hurt but if he is having trouble managing his money then financially he can hurt the child by not getting the things he needs. That is what I was referring to.
 
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Kain99

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Debbie92454 said:
Mr. Cusick,
I wasn't referring to any physical hurt but if he is having trouble managing his money then financially he can hurt the child by not getting the things he needs. That is what I was referring to.
Nice of you to help Momma take away more of his moola! :lmao:
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
Debbie92454 said:
Mr. Cusick,
I wasn't referring to any physical hurt but if he is having trouble managing his money then financially he can hurt the child by not getting the things he needs. That is what I was referring to.
Mr. Cusick is a wealth of information. Also, a dead beat dad that has served time in jail for not paying child support. You should listen to him and ask advice.
 

kbeachcat123

Jack Russells RULE!
BS Gal said:
Can you get the child back?

Most definately, since the ex is finding out how much it will "cost" him === The responsibility costs more than what the $$ equates to. Clothing, school supplies, homework, afterschool activities, video games, and oh yeah, science and history projects/

The most important job his father has to undertake (which is pricelesss) is to instill DISCIPLINE to make this young man a respectable member of society.

Custody of a child isn't all about the $$$ as he is quickly finding out.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
kbeachcat123 said:
Most definately, since the ex is finding out how much it will "cost" him === The responsibility costs more than what the $$ equates to. Clothing, school supplies, homework, afterschool activities, video games, and oh yeah, science and history projects/

The most important job his father has to undertake (which is pricelesss) is to instill DISCIPLINE to make this young man a respectable member of society.

Custody of a child isn't all about the $$$ as he is quickly finding out.
I'm sorry, but any woman that would give up her child is a POS. You, obviously, didn't get the bonding thing between a mother and child or you effed up in your life and they took the child from you. No court will usually give the child to the dad unless the mother is totally effed up or didn't fight enough for that child. Now, it seems, it's all about the $.
 

Debbie92454

New Member
I am not trying to take anything from the child. If his father is using his check to pay up some bills he has over due, then the father is taking the money from his child. The thing to figure out is how much of the money is supposed to go towards, shelter cost, food and things the child needs like clothing, school supplies and money for "fun" or entertainment, like ice cream. Is the child getting all the child needs, including, a sound emotional home life with plenty of love and discipline, if not then maybe Momma needs to have custody back. As for child support, put the money in a bank account for the child's future and let the court decide who gets it.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
Debbie92454 said:
I am not trying to take anything from the child. If his father is using his check to pay up some bills he has over due, then the father is taking the money from his child. The thing to figure out is how much of the money is supposed to go towards, shelter cost, food and things the child needs like clothing, school supplies and money for "fun" or entertainment, like ice cream. Is the child getting all the child needs, including, a sound emotional home life with plenty of love and discipline, if not then maybe Momma needs to have custody back. As for child support, put the money in a bank account for the child's future and let the court decide who gets it.
Can't you READ thru her posts? She isn't worried about the child.
 

Debbie92454

New Member
If the father is using the check for only his needs and by that I meant to get his life together, then he isn't either. Like I said, put the money in a bank account for the child's future and wait to see what the court decides.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
Debbie92454 said:
If the father is using the check for only his needs and by that I meant to get his life together, then he isn't either. Like I said, put the money in a bank account for the child's future and wait to see what the court decides.
"Reply with quote" is your friend.

I give up.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

kbeachcat123 said:
Can you spell out the acronyms? Please?
:whistle: The two acronyms:

SSDI = Social Security Disability Insurance, link HERE.

SSI = Suplemental Security Income, link HERE.

I do not know about other States but the Maryland law does not take child support from the smaller SSI.

Annotated Code of MD., Family Law section 12-201(3)(x) [it does take from SSDI for child support.]

Annotated Code of MD., Family Law section 12-201 (5) [does not take c/s from SSI]
(5) "Actual income" does not include benefits received from means-tested public assistance programs, including temporary cash assistance, Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, and transitional emergency, medical, and housing assistance.

It is hard to tell if your guy gets the SSI or SSDI but for the record there is no official "SSD".
:flowers:
 

kbeachcat123

Jack Russells RULE!
Sounds like

BS Gal said:
I'm sorry, but any woman that would give up her child is a POS. You, obviously, didn't get the bonding thing between a mother and child or you effed up in your life and they took the child from you. No court will usually give the child to the dad unless the mother is totally effed up or didn't fight enough for that child. Now, it seems, it's all about the $.

you want to post your personal opinion, and you are itching to know the details about what happened about the custody situation, versus actually answering my original question. The situation happened, I can't change the past, and I'm simply trying to get an answer before I decide to sit at Clinton Social Security office for 8 freaking hours.

<<< ooooh I bet I can find a few more bones in my closet >>>>>
 

Debbie92454

New Member
Mr. Cusick,
My understanding is that SSI is for the disabled member only, unless other family members are also disabled, only the person disabled recieves assistance. SSDI covers the disabled person and children under 18 unless in high school and then only until 2 months after their 19th birthday, or any child that is disabled either under 18 or over 18.

So I am assuming that the father receives SSDI.
If the mother is concerned about where the money is going she can also request that the father provide proof of what the father pays for on behalf of the child.

I have seen it done.
 

kbeachcat123

Jack Russells RULE!
JPC sr said:
:whistle: The two acronyms:

SSDI = Social Security Disability Insurance, link HERE.

SSI = Suplemental Security Income, link HERE.

I do not know about other States but the Maryland law does not take child support from the smaller SSI.

Annotated Code of MD., Family Law section 12-201(3)(x) [it does take from SSDI for child support.]

Annotated Code of MD., Family Law section 12-201 (5) [does not take c/s from SSI]
(5) "Actual income" does not include benefits received from means-tested public assistance programs, including temporary cash assistance, Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, and transitional emergency, medical, and housing assistance.

It is hard to tell if your guy gets the SSI or SSDI but for the record there is no official "SSD".
:flowers:

He's SSI. I'm trying to translate into readable, understable, simple English, the www.ssa.gov website convoluted linguistic triangular, circular lexicon.
 

kbeachcat123

Jack Russells RULE!
BS Gal said:
I'm sorry, but any woman that would give up her child is a POS. You, obviously, didn't get the bonding thing between a mother and child or you effed up in your life and they took the child from you. No court will usually give the child to the dad unless the mother is totally effed up or didn't fight enough for that child. Now, it seems, it's all about the $.


I hope on YOUR judgement day when the Lord says you should be judged as you judged others, so may it me. Yeah, I'm a real POS.
 

Debbie92454

New Member
Hang in there and Like I said if you want to put money back for your child in an account do so for his future. If he was supposed to get child support along with the other check, let the court decide. I still believe that he can not have both as I remember being asked if I got any disablilty from SSDI as they would have to inform the Social Security Administration of the check and then they would take 1.00 for every 2.00 I recieved. If I was getting SSI then it would be counted towards any other assistance we received, which we wasn't receiving. If you was doing fine with what you was receiving when you had your son, shake it off. I am not sure the court would even consider going back five years and like I said, someone may have to pay some money back. Just look to the future and work towards a goal to get your son back.
 

vraiblonde

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kbeachcat123 said:
OK --- I'm obviously a failure, which is obvious by my "history".

My QUESTION is, does anybody know if he is entitled to both child support AND social security. I don't have a problem with paying child support, but, if I have to pay, then he owes ME $12,000 in back child support.

Can someone answer my question, and then you all can continue to bash me for my obvious stupidity and irresponsibily.
:lol:

#### happens and we all make mistakes. Hindsight is 20/20. Yadda yadda.

I'd make the call to SS. They will have the answer you need AND you can strike a blow if he's screwing the government (which it sounds like he is doing).

Why'd you give him custody? If you've already answered that and I just haven't gotten to it yet, disregard.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

kbeachcat123 said:
I hope on YOUR judgement day when the Lord says you should be judged as you judged others, so may it me. Yeah, I'm a real POS.
:whistle: A lot of posters on here preach like they are so much better then other people.

Those like "BSG" have probably never had a real hardship in their entire lives.

They are spoiled and pampered brats that preach their privledged and pompous opinions to brag of her superiorities.

It is hard to tolerate. :howdy:
 
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