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[JPC sr]

Batman

This thread turns my stomach.
...poor babies...

This Thread was keeping to the subject but my hecklers followed me here,

and I guess some will blame me but it is the hecklers that only focus on me and not the question.

It is a sad event for any separation and divorce and blaming the parents instead of helping the family unit is what goes on now and I would like to see that change.

Instead of attacking the parent(s) and degrading the parent(s) and punishing the parent(s) , we need to start helping the parents in protecting the marriage, and start helping the parents in defending the family units.

We need a major overhaul and big improvements to the gov control in family law.

 

[SoMDGirl42]

:It is a sad event for any separation and divorce and blaming the parents instead of helping the family unit is what goes on now and I would like to see that change.

I am expecting lighting to strike any moment, you just said something that almost makes sense. Divorce is a sad event, especially for the children. Helping the family unit would include the absent parent paying child support! That would be helping the family unit, what's left of it. And I too would like to see that changed. The absent parent shouldn't fight paying child support for a child they had 50% part in conceiving. Don't play if you don't want to pay.

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

I am expecting lighting to strike any moment, you just said something that almost makes sense. Divorce is a sad event, especially for the children. Helping the family unit would include the absent parent paying child support! That would be helping the family unit, what's left of it. And I too would like to see that changed. The absent parent shouldn't fight paying child support for a child they had 50% part in conceiving.

That is just paying for a broken family,

it is subsidizing divorce.

That idea of "what is left of the family unit" is wrong because breaking up the family does not mean that the separated parents are no longer a part of the family unit.

By doing that we under the force of law destroy the family unit to shreads.

Don't play if you don't want to pay.

I do not like that expression at all.

It seems to me that no one is "playing" when they are making babies.

 

[itsbob]

That is just paying for a broken family,

it is subsidizing divorce.

That idea of "what is left of the family unit" is wrong because breaking up the family does not mean that the separated parents are no longer a part of the family unit.

By doing that we under the force of law destroy the family unit to shreads.
I do not like that expression at all.

It seems to me that no one is "playing" when they are making babies.

So what did you do to your wife to force her to kick you to the curb and keep the kids??

She catch you fondling little boys at the library?

 

[kbeachcat123]

Better a "sneering kook" then a cold hearted snake.

But what about the woman that started this thread?

She loves her children and lost them to the dad,

so is she a kook too? I have no objection to me being seen as a kook.

When you keep shutting the door to other people then it is you that gets locked in.

I am not a kook, just a human that made a stupid mistake. I do love my son, and only want the best for his future. My ex is unable to do physical labor and refuses to seek employment since that would reduce his monthly check for simply existing on this planet. He can keep that measly SSD dependent check for himself - I can support my son and myself without any financial support from my ex.

Thank you for listening. I am thickskinned so I didn't take the judgemental comments personally. I can totally understand, if my situation was different, I would probably have the same opinion.

 

[kbeachcat123]

I will only say this, good luck trying to collect the $12,000 in back support you feel he owes you. There is no court of law that I know of that will do this. You cannot go back and claim back support, if you did not have an order for support in the first place, otherwise it would be called arrears (?sp) and then you would be intitled to the $12,000. Can you imagine how many caases there would be in court if a parent decided years after the fact that they felt they were owed back child support and didn't have a support order in effect for the time they claim they were owed support? If this were the case, I'd be first in line to claim mine from my ex!

As a matter of fact, I do have court papers from our original divorce decree which states that he has to pay child support. Only $200/month. He never paid. Not a problem. But 5 years later, he wants to collect $7k from me, which means he still owes me $5k. So, sooner or later, someone has to pay the piper.

 

[BS Gal]

I am not a kook, just a human that made a stupid mistake. I do love my son, and only want the best for his future. My ex is unable to do physical labor and refuses to seek employment since that would reduce his monthly check for simply existing on this planet. He can keep that measly SSD dependent check for himself - I can support my son and myself without any financial support from my ex.

Thank you for listening. I am thickskinned so I didn't take the judgemental comments personally. I can totally understand, if my situation was different, I would probably have the same opinion.

Here's a hint. Ya might wanna do a little more research on JPC's history before you start thanking him for his support. YVW.

 

[kbeachcat123]

All of that is none of your business,

not nobody needs to be telling you their business in order to get your approval.

The dad having the kids is not an evil reflection on the mom.

I AGREE with JPC sr. Why relive the past when it already happened? I simply asked a question, and the events in the past which led up to the present situation are a non-issue as related to the simple question I initially presented.

Thank you, JPC sr for providing me the social security administration website which confirmed my initial understanding. Hopefully this information (albeit without the side comments) might help someone else.

Take care!!!

 

[kbeachcat123]

This is just my personal opinion, but when custody becomes about money, the parent that feels that way is in the wrong. In this case, kbeachcat123 said in the original post:From these two bolded parts, I gather that child support was more about money than the child's welfare to the father, and the question comes from a position of being fair between parents for kbeachcat123. It's not a lot to go on, but it does give a lot of information about both people. Father sounds a bit selfish, moving his child around for no other reason than his personal finances (not the welfare of the child). Mom sounds too kind for her own good. However, it sounds like she learned about a mistake she made, and I doubt she'd do it again.

The question wasn't about whether she made a mistake with custody, though. She's asking about SS and Child Support in the interest of being fair between parents. Something tells me she'll probably end up with custody back fairly soon, as the type of parent worried more about payments than the child's well-being (ie, the father) will prove himself unfit shortly, allowing kbeachcat123 custody again.

You are correct. Since the ex has had custody, my son has been in two schools in the past two years and this year is going to yet ANOTHER school. Three schools in three years. He refuses to let me see where they live (he wants to meet halfway) which sends up a red flag. I'm contacting Social Services in the upcoming week. The ex can keep the $. I only want what's best for my kid.

 

[kbeachcat123]

Here's a hint. Ya might wanna do a little more research on JPC's history before you start thanking him for his support. YVW.

I simply thanked him for the website. Nothing more.

 

[BS Gal]

I AGREE with JPC sr. Why relive the past when it already happened? I simply asked a question, and the events in the past which led up to the present situation are a non-issue as related to the simple question I initially presented.

Thank you, JPC sr for providing me the social security administration website which confirmed my initial understanding. Hopefully this information (albeit without the side comments) might help someone else.

Take care!!!

JPC skipped out on his kid, refused to pay support, went to jail for non-support, then went back to jail for spray painting the State Office Building about how he was being crucified. He never paid a dime and his kid doesn't support his grandkid. Want more info?

 

[kbeachcat123]

JPC skipped out on his kid, refused to pay support, went to jail for non-support, then went back to jail for spray painting the State Office Building about how he was being crucified. He never paid a dime and his kid doesn't support his grandkid. Want more info?

I gather from other posts (don't know how to cross-link)that his wife had cancer, and looking at his website he is apparently against C/S payments.

That's his own personal issue, I only wanted the facts regarding SSD and CS. Not JPC's or anbody else's issue. Quite frankly, my ex can take my son's SSD compensation for his own use, just give me my kid. He is QUITE OPEN to the idea, needless to say. So we're drafting up papers essentially stating that I can't come after him for CS. My ex will still have visitation like before (every other week) but he gets what he wants - that "big" check (heh).

 

[BS Gal]

I gather from other posts (don't know how to cross-link)that his wife had cancer, and looking at his website he is apparently against C/S payments.

That's his own personal issue, I only wanted the facts regarding SSD and CS. Not JPC's or anbody else's issue. Quite frankly, my ex can take my son's SSD compensation for his own use, just give me my kid. He is QUITE OPEN to the idea, needless to say. So we're drafting up papers essentially stating that I can't come after him for CS. My ex will still have visitation like before (every other week) but he gets what he wants - that "big" check (heh).

You "gathered" wrong. He is a dead beat dad. I hope you have resolved whatever issues you had that caused you to give up your kid. Kids need moms.

 

[hvp05]

I simply thanked him for the website. Nothing more.

Yeah, JPC can link just fine. And, sure enough, he knows all the links for governmental child support information, etc.; it's just that they always say exactly the opposite of what he thinks they say.

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

JPC skipped out on his kid, refused to pay support, went to jail for non-support, then went back to jail for spray painting the State Office Building about how he was being crucified. Want more info?

This poor woman is going on about me the messanger and she says nothing about the message.

This thread is not about me and I give out factual information.

My website link in all my postings has a Biography page all about me and my adventures.

If "BSG" had some info about the subject then that would be the point but she offers only slander.

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

Yeah, JPC can link just fine. And, sure enough, he knows all the links for governmental child support information, etc.; it's just that they always say exactly the opposite of what he thinks they say.

This thread is about a serious subject and it is not about me.

 

[BS Gal]

This poor woman is going on about me the messanger and she says nothing about the message.

This thread is not about me and I give out factual information.

My website link in all my postings has a Biography page all about me and my adventures.

If "BSG" had some info about the subject then that would be the point but she offers only slander.

Tell me how I've slandered you. Is what I wrote not the truth? Did you not give $ to support your child? Perhaps I missed something. Did you not spray paint the State Office Building? Were you not convicted of that? How is this slander?

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

Tell me how I've slandered you. Is what I wrote not the truth? Did you not give $ to support your child? Perhaps I missed something. Did you not spray paint the State Office Building? Were you not convicted of that? How is this slander?

Well my biography page explains my situation best,

but you are taking the points out of context and painting a false picture and that is slander.

So yes, I did pay some child support but the thieves demanded more and too much.

I did spray paint the State House and convicted of it but it was an act of non-violent civil disobediance and not a random crime and so I was a political prisoner.

And even more important is that your twisted version of me has nothing to do with the subject of the thread or the questions presented and instead you are making your slander to sound like that makes my posting incorrect while I have been trying to give helpful information.

This thread is not about me and I want to communicate with people in a real and honest way.

 

[BS Gal]

Well my biography page explains my situation best,

but you are taking the points out of context and painting a false picture and that is slander.

So yes, I did pay some child support but the thieves demanded more and too much.

I did spray paint the State House and convicted of it but it was an act of non-violent civil disobediance and not a random crime and so I was a political prisoner.

And even more important is that your twisted version of me has nothing to do with the subject of the thread or the questions presented and instead you are making your slander to sound like that makes my posting incorrect while I have been trying to give helpful information.

This thread is not about me and I want to communicate with people in a real and honest way.

How is my version of you "twisted?" I'm only citing what is on the website about you and what you have put on here.

 

[JPC sr]

Batman

How is my version of you "twisted?" I'm only citing what is on the website about you and what you have put on here.

I just told you

see the previous post

DUH.