School shootings
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
because society teaches us to be passive, give them what they want and they will go away.BuddyLee said:
And we aren't talking three or four, EVERYONE needs to react.. if 20 of 30 kids reacted violently to a room incursion, the attacker would probably re-think and retreat.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Maybe, if you're lucky. In today's world almost everyone is told "You too can be something". Moreso than not, we've grown into a selfish and passive world. As Mainman suggested, you can talk and train but you really don't know how you're going to react to your first experience of having a gun placed at your temple. This especially being the case for pubescent high-schoolers.Pete said:
BuddyLee
Football addict
Agreed.itsbob said:
Do you really think that's possible?itsbob said:
Tell me, why don't all the prisoners in all of our prisons just run out?
Why not forget about guns altogether in the War in Iraq? We can just rush em' with 1,000 men at once!
...I wonder if they'll mow us.
Pete said:
Understood and agreed. Perhaps that is the different thinking of men and women. Frankly, I had never given this topic any thought before. I tend to think that elementary school is safer. But unfortunately, that can change in a moments notice. I just hope to never have to face this sort of thing.
Pete
Repete
In the military there is a saying "Train like you fight". They drill and drill and drill until action is preprogrammed and automatic. You are always going to have some frozen in fear, but I have seen some very scared people act very decisively and furiously when scared. Fear is an excellent force multiplier.BuddyLee said:
Geek
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I am all for attack And I would give everything in me to get to be there and stand in front of my kids if God forbid they ever had to face a cowardly, suicidal a**hole. But what about more security at schools? Security cameras, taller fences. I also think we should teach self defense in schools.
And I would give everything in me to get to be there and stand in front of my kids if God forbid they ever had to face a cowardly, suicidal a**hole. But what about more security at schools? Security cameras, taller fences. I also think we should teach self defense in schools.
Fubar
Look my ass glows!
* In Philadelphia, the first part of this school year brought the suspensions of 22 kindergartners.RoseRed said:
* Minneapolis schools have suspended more than 500 kindergartners over the past two school years for fighting, indecent exposure and "persistent lack of co-operation," among other offenses. Statewide, Minnesota schools have suspended nearly 4,000 kindergartners, first- and second- graders, most for fighting, disorderly conduct and the like.
* In Massachusetts, the percentage of suspended students in prekindergarten through third grade more than doubled between 1995 and 2000, while that of suspended high-schoolers dropped in every grade but 12th. High school students still accounted for 56% of all out-of-school suspensions, while the younger students accounted for about 5%.
* In 2001-2002, Greenville, S.C., schools suspended 132 first-graders, 75 kindergartners and two preschoolers.
Need I go on??
Pete
Repete
Buddy it is apples and oranges. Prisoners do not attack because they are not locked in one big room with a guard. Where are they going to go? There are other armed guards there who will shoot them on sight.BuddyLee said:Agreed.
Do you really think that's possible?
Tell me, why don't all the prisoners in all of our prisons just run out?
Why not forget about guns altogether in the War in Iraq? We can just rush em' with 1,000 men at once!
...I wonder if they'll mow us.
Next, they don't all have something in common. Not all want to escape, all the kids want to survive.
A school intruder does not have any illusion of "escaping". Most are going to commit suicide anyway.
BuddyLee
Football addict
I'll buy that and although I think it's sad indeed I believe we should offer some public schooled class on self-defense or the like.Pete said:
I'm not advocating just sitting there, I think the kids should do something. However, I'm also being realistic. Honestly, who is willing to take that first shot in today's world? I know very few (young folk) that would be 'willing'.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
I would think, that in most cases, these people running into classrooms with guns are generally cowards. ANY kind of agression, or reaction would scare them and probably result in their retreating.RoseRed said:
BRAVE people don't shoot unarmed pacified children.
Someone told me once, when he had me at knife point, and I was staring at the knife. "Don't fear the weapon, fear the person holding it."
Don't fear a coward, don't fear the weapon he his holding, whether it be a knife, a gun or a box of uncooked spaghetti.
Right now if a psycho came into a classroom holding a single knife, they would do as he says. Would you feel better if she rushed someone holding a knife, instead of a gun?
