Should deadbeat dads be turned in by relatives?

[Ponytail]

The child support laws are evil and any honest citizen has a duty to fight the child support and to assist the parents in resisting the thievery.
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[This_person]

I really like this "TP" post as it gives his dribble and links to my words - so again I like it.

There is the answer "MMDad" - for the lady that wanted to know.

Thanks "TP".

No problem, Jimmy. Any time I can use your own words instead of my opinion to show how bad of a human you really are, I'll do it. Again, it's not an answer to the question, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. You have a deaf spot to people asking you direct questions, you can only answer in slanderous rhetoric without substance.

 

[marybek]

I see you are kind of new to this "Community Forum" so here is the link to much of my position on the subject;

Click HERE, that link goes to the "Election" section of this SoMd forum.

You can also access my campaign website in my profile or below in my Signature section.

Rock and Roll.

I will view your websites as soon as you answer my question. Did you pay your ex wife/girlfriend/baby's momma the amount of money you felt was justified, or did you betray the child you brought into this world?

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

I will view your websites as soon as you answer my question.

Well I do not think this thread is the best place to answer those type question but I guess you being new makes so I must bow to you.

Did you pay your ex wife/girlfriend/baby's momma the amount of money you felt was justified,

I was legally married and married in the Catholic Church in Hollywood, MD. and separated 5 years later (1981) and 2 more years before officially divorced in 1983. One son born 1977.

I did give my wife and son what I felt was justified and I gave far more in valuables then just money.

But this has nothing to do with the child support which is a separate issue.

At that time I felt differently about the child support than I feel now that I know the child support is evil and destructive. At first years ago I did not know that about the child support.

or did you betray the child you brought into this world?

It depends on how one defines "betrayed" so I did leave my son with his mom and I believed he was in safe hands and I do not feel that is a "betrayal" at all.

Of course I did do things wrong and I did make many mistakes and the separation and divorce were all my fault.

 

[This_person]

I did give my wife and son what I felt was justified and I gave far more in valuables then just money.

But this has nothing to do with the child support which is a separate issue.

Marybek, these two lines tell you all you really need to know about his answer. He gave no money, no consequential support, and has admitted that repeatedly. He felt that he "provided" for his son by "providing" people that would take care of the son for him. He justifies this by believing that it's not a moral obligation for non-custodial parents to provide for their children as long as welfare or other families members will. He's said that if a child, with no support from the non-custodial parent, goes without anything it is ONLY the custodial parent's fault. His sickazz view is that a non-custodial parent being "forced" by the law to provide "extras and luxuries" (like, shoes, lunch money, etc) for their child is paramount to government theft.

It depends on how one defines "betrayed" so I did leave my son with his mom and I believed he was in safe hands and I do not feel that is a "betrayal" at all.

He also has a whole JPCtionary (instead of dictionary) definitions of words. If the word "responsibility", for example, comes up he has his own wording for that. "Obligation". "Democracy". It really all comes from his own definition of "reality". It's unlike any other I've ever seen.

Of course I did do things wrong and I did make many mistakes and the separation and divorce were all my fault.

And I'll be he feels this biggest mistakes he made were to pay child support the couple of times he paid it, not the neglect, disloyalty, and dishonor he brought to his son.

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

Marybek, these two lines tell you all you really need to know about his answer.

The point is that my child support case is years closed and over.

All I am pressing for is to bring justice to parents and to families today in the present by stopping the injustices still going on in the unjust child support system.

I am not fighting my own case as I am only helping others.

 

[tom88]

The point is that my child support case is years closed and over.

All I am pressing for is to bring justice to parents and to families today in the present by stopping the injustices still going on in the unjust child support system.

I am not fighting my own case as I am only helping others.

Your a scum bag! You have no idea what it is to be a father and struggle with lifes difficulties. You made a crusade of not giving your wife any money for child support, while at that very time ruining the life of the child you brought into this world. You continue to be a bane of his existence by attempting to be in the limelight with your convaluted ideas of right and wrong. Why don't you just drift into obscurity where you belong.

 

[wv4x4]

I guess even I get tired of it after a while.

This thread is about betraying the family members over to the State for child support which is about as cheap dirty chicken crap as it gets, and she is going to ask about my personal business while ignoring the thieving child support itself, and so there is no real answer to her question.

The child support laws are evil and any honest citizen has a duty to fight the child support and to assist the parents in resisting the thievery.

The sad fact that I did pay some of the child support in my past does not mean that it was right as I was just ill informed as most other people are today.

Drink Bleach!

 

[This_person]

The point is that my child support case is years closed and over.

All I am pressing for is to bring justice to parents and to families today in the present by stopping the injustices still going on in the unjust child support system.

I am not fighting my own case as I am only helping others.

Actually, no. The point was, what did you do? The question is valid because it helps the "ignorant masses", as you called us, figure out how you'd handle something in the future. This thread is a question of whether law abiding citizens should turn in their own despicable children for dishonorably financially abandoning their children. You said you wouldn't post here after you realized what it was, but then you did post repeatedly. This is one of the "ignorant masses" asking you, a supposed candidate for federal office, what your actions were to determine how you might vote in the future. You can't readjust her point to fit your need to ignore your past.

 

[protectmd]

I think that if someone know's where a person who is "at large" is should turn him/her in. Whether its a child support offender, or otherwise. Not doing so is just a failure to be a responsible citizen in society. Obviously you should try to convince them to turn themselves in, or start doing something about it, but if they aren't going to, then you should obviously inform the authorities who deal with the problem the whereabouts of the person who does it.

Would you turn in a robber? If so, then you should turn in a person who doesn't pay child support. He's robbing a child of money, their ability to become something better in life. He's robbing taxpayers of their money, by legal fee's, wasting time of judges, he's robbing the welfare system of 1 less person who would end up on it if that money was being paid. And finally, he's robbing himself of a decent financial future, job opportunties and the ability to be considered a respectable person in the community. Furthermore, its shame to your family's name in the community for not being apart of the solution when you had the ability to deal with the problem. I know thats not a big deal here in the US, but in Japan, people value their family name... bringing shame upon it has caused suicides in the past, just to give you an idea of how serious that sort of thing is to some people.

 

[marybek]

The point is that my child support case is years closed and over.

All I am pressing for is to bring justice to parents and to families today in the present by stopping the injustices still going on in the unjust child support system.

I am not fighting my own case as I am only helping others.

Your helping nobody. You are a bad person!

 

[Qurious]

those child support checks were the
only reminder of you we had-
and they stopped coming when I turned six.

but unfortunately

I had your sinful eyes
your mellow complexion
your deceptive smile
& your narrow mind

and I continued to remind mama of

your departure,
your exit, and
your stoic demeanor towards our survival-

and the support you never sent,
made my life's existence an accident,
and the support she didn't see,

was debited from the
support given to me




Mark Anthony Thomas

this was deep!!

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

this was deep!!

It is deap and telling,

it shows that the child support is what separated the child from the separated parent. And where was the custodial when this child was moaning the loss of their other parent? The custodial had a duty not to let the law interfere with the child's upbringing but instead the unjust child support laws violated that family unit and if we read the text that kid knew it was the child support that did it.

That is my point that the unjust child support divides the family unit.

The child support breaks up families.

 

[smcop]

It is deap and telling,

it shows that the child support is what separated the child from the separated parent. And where was the custodial when this child was moaning the loss of their other parent? The custodial had a duty not to let the law interfere with the child's upbringing but instead the unjust child support laws violated that family unit and if we read the text that kid knew it was the child support that did it.

That is my point that the unjust child support divides the family unit.

The child support breaks up families.

What a load of crap! In your feeble attempt at justifying your miserley lack of payment for this child which you brought into the world reveals the type of coward you really are! Your child suffered and continues to suffer because you didn't step up to your responsibility. You are less than a man!

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

What a load of crap! In your feeble attempt at justifying your miserley lack of payment for this child which you brought into the world reveals the type of coward you really are! Your child suffered and continues to suffer because you didn't step up to your responsibility. You are less than a man!

I consider honesty as being far more important than servitude - and more manly too.

 

[missperky]

Yes, I would turn in my son/daughter if they were a deadbeat.

My EX is in jail.

 

[smcop]

Yes, I would turn in my son/daughter is they were a deadbeat.

My EX is in jail.

Good for you Miss Perky!

 

[missperky]

Good for you Miss Perky!

Thanks. :

 

[Wenchy]

Yes, I would turn in my son/daughter is they were a deadbeat.

My EX is in jail.

I believe in genetics and social conditioning weighing about 50/50. It's now up to you to make sure your children never do such a thing.

 

[missperky]

I believe in genetics and social conditioning weighing about 50/50. It's now up to you to make sure your children never do such a thing.

Oh ok. When they become 18 they are adults.