Should I feel guilty for hating Christmas?

mamatutu

mama to two
I never hated Christmas. I was just one that didn't expect presents or want to give presents when told to do so. I like presents the other 364 days of the year. You know, unexpected; like a surprise. I put birthdays, anniversaries, Valentines Day, etc. into that category, as well. Flowers on a random day, a present for no reason, a card just because you love someone that much. I have always operated this way. Christmas is Jesus' birthday. Period. Celebrate that and don't ever feel the pressure to give to anyone else on Dec. 25th. Give throughout the year. That is what Jesus would want. Merry Christmas.
 
I have always liked your honesty on this forum. I identify. I just don't get why an atheist gets into Christmas. But, that could be just me. I did notice that another thread was started about a month ago, and people were slammed for not liking Christmas. I love hypocrisy. :lol: As for myself, I am not into Christmas now that my children are grown; we celebrate at their houses. I don't decorate at my home anymore. All I can think of at this point (current news is quite distressing) is the 'goodwill towards men' thing. That seems to be lost as well. I wish you happy holidays! :smile:

It's fine to use the term "Merry Christmas" with me instead of "Happy Holidays". Agree the 'goodwill towards men' thing is probably the most important part.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to You and Yours!
 

acommondisaster

Active Member
It's fine to use the term "Merry Christmas" with me instead of "Happy Holidays". Agree the 'goodwill towards men' thing is probably the most important part.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to You and Yours!

Tolerance and understanding at its best. Would that everyone (me included) could understand the importance of other people's beliefs and let them be with their beliefs without malice or a desire to eradicate them.
 

Pete

Repete
I hate Christmas, too. It wouldn't be hard for me to completely ignore it, but I have a son to think of, so despite what I feel about it, I feel like I have to do something for him.

I immensely dislike the music, the "Season's Greetings" messages, and I hate, hate, hate the presents - buying them, wrapping them, giving them, getting them, and paying for them. To date, I haven't bought the first present, and I really hope that I don't break down and buy one - I didn't buy any last year, and it felt great to not have that stress on my shoulders.

I wish I could just fast-forward through the next two weeks.
I am with you. I believe our society has outgrown the present giving part of Christmas. Back in the day when money was much tighter and people did not have nearly everything they desire you could go out and purchase something that they would not do for themselves. It meant something. Now it is virtually impossible to ascertain what someone would like because most people already have anything they could want and we end up racking our brains for ideas and then going with Hickory farms or Yankee candle.

Take my BFF for instance. Has everything in the world. Needs or wants nothing. Then I get a great idea only to find out her BF is getting her moose poop nuggets dipped in varnish and made into jewelry. So now I am back to Hickory farms.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Take my BFF for instance. Has everything in the world. Needs or wants nothing. Then I get a great idea only to find out her BF is getting her moose poop nuggets dipped in varnish and made into jewelry. So now I am back to Hickory farms.

I do not think a girl can have too many moose poop necklaces. :yay:
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
I do not think a girl can have too many moose poop necklaces. :yay:

And how can we leave out the matching earrings.

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hotcoffee

New Member
Here's a good reason to love Christmas!

[video=youtube;S0lymV0oH2U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lymV0oH2U[/video]

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hotcoffee

New Member
How can anyone hate the season when a young child sings so angelic?

[video=youtube;pAe7EjJjaKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAe7EjJjaKY[/video]

:coffee:
 

mamatutu

mama to two
It's fine to use the term "Merry Christmas" with me instead of "Happy Holidays". Agree the 'goodwill towards men' thing is probably the most important part.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to You and Yours!

Same to you, PC. Let us hope that the New Year bodes better for mankind and the state of the world.

Merry Christmas! :smile:
 

hotcoffee

New Member
My family is enjoying the holidays! My grandchildren are toddlers.... and this is how my daughter and son-in-law are opening the Christmas Holiday!

[video=youtube;7m3JS7sFzFg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m3JS7sFzFg&feature=youtu.be[/video]

:coffee:
 

FollowTheMoney

New Member
I posted this in another thread hotcoffee, maybe you missed it?

Hot Coffee, Would you mind, if not too off putting, of describing how you came to know you had colon cancer? If you had any symptoms, and what they were and how they presented? How you came to be diagnosed? I think this information would be of great value to those who might not otherwise give colon cancer a second thought. And the importance of screening. You might help save a life.
 

hotcoffee

New Member
I posted this in another thread hotcoffee, maybe you missed it?

Hot Coffee, Would you mind, if not too off putting, of describing how you came to know you had colon cancer? If you had any symptoms, and what they were and how they presented? How you came to be diagnosed? I think this information would be of great value to those who might not otherwise give colon cancer a second thought. And the importance of screening. You might help save a life.

No problem at all... I had a kidney stone which caused me to hit my max out of pocket for insurance. So my PCP and I decided it was an excellent time for a woman my age to go through the regular diagnostic testing. I had a mammogram, pap smear and a colonoscopy. The colonoscopy showed I had a flat [as opposed to mushroom shaped] polyp. It was removed and sent out for testing. It came back as cancer.

I was sent to George Washington University Hospital for surgery to undergo a right hemicolectomy. The section of the colon that was removed was sent to the lab for testing. It was classified stage IIIc. The oncologist at George Washington University Hospital said that no chemo was recommended because the cure was worse than the cancer. It appeared that although the tumor had entered the wall of the colon, it did not affect any of the 26 surrounding nodes.

In all fairness.... the oncologist that my PCP had me follow up with here at Calvert Memorial... [rather than travel back and forth to DC] suggested chemotherapy but since an older [and more experienced I assumed due to his age and prestige] doctor had advised against it.... I did not opt for the suggestion of the younger local oncologist.

After you have colon cancer.... it's routine that you have regular CEA blood tests and an annual colonoscopy. Before this testing was done.... I started to have some pain in the lower right part of my belly. My PCP did a physical exam and found a lump in the area. She ordered a CEA blood test and it came back higher than it should have. I was then scheduled to go back to the oncologist. He could not feel the lump that the PCP and I had found. I was scheduled for a colonoscopy. The colonoscopy showed more cancer of the same type in the area adjacent to the area where the resection had been done. The oncologist sent me to Mercy Hospital to see another colon specialist. He was as hairy as a bear... as I recall... he tried to get me to have a more sophisticated colonoscopy but dismissed the lump the PCP and I had felt. The pain was persisting and moving up in the abdomen by that time. I opted not to go for the procedure he was selling because he dismissed the fact I was in pain. He told me he felt is was a subcutaneous cyst.... nothing to worry about.

At the end of August, the pain in my belly was becoming a daily issue. That's when another kidney stone sent me back to Calvert Memorial Hospital. The CT Scan I was given [so that they could locate the boulder my system was trying to pass] showed a subcutaneous mass 5cm X 3cmX 2.5cm at the belly button area [where the pain was now persistant]. I went though the kidney stone removal and then was scheduled for more tests. The PET scan scheduled after the surgery showed a tumor that was now 6cm x 3cm x 2.5cm. [for those of you who don't have a cm measure... it's about the size of a small human fist].

Before the routine colonoscopy the only symptoms I had was occasional constipation. There was no blood in my stool, no pain.... no real signs. My family history has some colon cancer.

After a biopsy was performed I went back to my oncologist. My diagnosis is now recurring metastatic colon cancer Stage 4. It's terminal. The doctor explained that without treatment I would have a couple of months. With chemo and possibly surgery I could have as long as two years. When considering the surgery I should consider whether or not the surgery could remove all the cancer. Since there is a shadow on my stomach, a spot on my kidney, liver, and adrenal gland [along with the polyp in my colon that the doctor that did the colonoscopy could not reach during the colonoscopy], it isn't likely that the surgery I am scheduled to undergo will get it all.

The pain at my belly button is so bad that I am now on a lot of pain killers. I can't wear jeans anymore. The pressure on the belly causes intense pain. I have to wear non-restrictive clothing like dresses. Now I cannot stand for more than 3-5 minutes before feeling acute pain in the belly. I've gone through 5 rounds of chemo... [5-FU]. The tumor as only shrunk back to the size when it showed up on the CT Scan back in August.

After my surgery on January 12th.... the plan is for hubby and I to meet with the oncologist to go over the pathology report. I've used up 5 months of the 2 years.... we'll see what comes out of that meeting.

Thank you for asking.... the best way to avoid colon cancer is to have regular colon screenings. If you have a history of colon cancer in your family.... talk to your primary care doctor. Oh and the colonoscopy procedure has gotten a whole lot easier than it was just a few years ago. Even the prep that you have to drink is better.....

AND one last thing... if you cannot afford a colonoscopy.... talk to your PCP.... there are programs that will pay for your procedure. Colon Cancer caught early can be cured.

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hotcoffee

New Member
All of us hate Christmas at least once or so in a lifetime.

I've watched Christmases come and go since the 50's.

My kids left to see their dad one Christmas and it took me 15 years to get them back.

This time of year... there are a lot of people who are lonely and sad..... commercialism when the economy sucks and so many of us are unemployed, underemployed, underwater, and the clerks all say "same to you" because it's politically correct.

We all have our trials and memories from our childhood. Drugs, alcohol, abuse..... they seem to rise at Christmas. Parents arguing about money is a real buzz kill.

My daughter ran away from home one Christmas and came home pregnant.....

There are a lot of dark times.... but if you have faith..... it can all work out. It takes time.... I've seen it happen in my own life.... over and over and over again.

Have faith.... take some time to yourself and consider the Nativity Story as you first heard it. Watch children.... it's a Birthday Party after all.... enjoy what you can.... I use to sing christmas carols to myself when I got down.... He's the reason I made it through those time....

It's ok to hate what Christmas has become.... as long as you remember just one memory of a holiday gone by..... I've had quite a few.... if you cherish just one memory... you have it to fall back on... that'll give you the courage to live in your faith when everyone around you is strapped in the pagan commercialism that surrounds the holidays....

Satan is really jealous about this time of year.... we are, after all, celebrating the beginning of the fulfillment of ancient prophecy..... Satan hates that with a passion... and he comes after those of us who choose to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. It's a war of powers and principalities and even this war is a fulfillment of prophecy.... as a matter of Fact.... Jesus, Himself, told us it would happen. Hang in there.... have faith... you can make it through this....

I'm dealing with colon cancer this holiday.... I refuse to let the cancer take away my faith in my Lord.... I plan to enjoy the holiday... it's the birthday of my Lord....

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Dakota

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Very positive attitude, hotcoffee, and that could very well be what has you beating the odds. I've always been in the belief that we don't have a time stamp anywhere on our body. My mother was diagnosed with cancer in her later 40's and given an excellent prognoses. At the same time, my boss was diagnosed with cancer in his early 30's with a horrible prognoses, several years later they both died of terminal cancer (within a few days of each other). My boss turned a 6 month prognoses into 4 years.

I remember a story the funeral director in PA told me when I went back to bury my grandmother. He told me his wife was diagnosed with colon cancer 7 years ago and given only 6 months to live. The doctor told him and his wife to get their affairs in order when they gave her (and him) the prognoses. A few days later, that doctor died in a car accident. The funeral director looked at me and said "I wonder if anyone told him to get his affairs in order?" It is just that nobody knows how long they have and your positive attitude will get you a very long way. I do believe that. :yay:
 
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hotcoffee

New Member
Very positive attitude, hotcoffee, and that could very well be what has you beating the odds. I've always been in the belief that we don't have a time stamp anywhere on our body. My mother was diagnosed with cancer in her later 40's and given an excellent prognoses. At the same time, my boss was diagnosed with cancer in his early 30's with a horrible prognoses, several years later they both died of terminal cancer (within a few days of each other). My boss turned a 6 month prognoses into 4 years.

I remember a story the funeral director in PA told me when I went back to bury my grandmother. He told me his wife was diagnosed with colon cancer 7 years ago and given only 6 months to live. The doctor told him and his wife to get their affairs in order when they gave her (and him) the prognoses. A few days later, that doctor died in a car accident. The funeral director looked at me and said "I wonder if anyone told him to get his affairs in order?" It is just that nobody knows how long they have and your positive attitude will get you a very long way. I do believe that. :yay:

It will be interesting to hear [read] the pathology report after the doctor actually looks inside and sees first hand what's going on.

I have my biggest affair in order. I know where I'm going on my next adventure.

I'm working on getting my legal issues in order. I'm also making sure that my most treasured earthly possessions are going to the right family members. I'm sending them with a note inside. It helps to write a note with a memory in it. I sent some old encyclopedia year books to my cousin. They were given to me by her grandmother after her mother died. It meant a lot to her.... it meant a lot to me to know she had something in her hands that her mother had once enjoyed. I have a few more "special" items to send. I'll get them in the mail after the holidays. I got to think about my aunt and my cousin... and the memories we shared. They're waiting for me when I start my new adventure, whenever that may be.

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FollowTheMoney

New Member
Before the routine colonoscopy the only symptoms I had was occasional constipation. There was no blood in my stool, no pain.... no real signs. My family history has some colon cancer.
I always thought colon cancer had noticeable symptoms. I've been educated. Thank you.
 
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