awpitt
Main Streeter
...but we do have reasonable explectations to be able to eat in a healthy environment and public health is a proper function of govt.
Smoking Ban in MD
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Oh...
...now you're really wandering off the reservation. Slavery was legal in this country for 87 years with the exact same wording the entire time. It is 'constitutionally' legal to kill the unborn who, somehow, have no right to life or liberty.
Just because you view there is no right to smoke UNLESS the constitution says you can does not make it right.
...now you're really wandering off the reservation. Slavery was legal in this country for 87 years with the exact same wording the entire time. It is 'constitutionally' legal to kill the unborn who, somehow, have no right to life or liberty.
Just because you view there is no right to smoke UNLESS the constitution says you can does not make it right.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Then it...
...is proper to ban 'unhealthy' food and 'unhealthy' drink and 'unhealthy' music and 'unhealthy conversation' and 'unhealthy' thought. All of these things can be proven to be harmful far more than smoking or second hand smoke.
...is proper to ban 'unhealthy' food and 'unhealthy' drink and 'unhealthy' music and 'unhealthy conversation' and 'unhealthy' thought. All of these things can be proven to be harmful far more than smoking or second hand smoke.
MMDad
Lem Putt
The issue is not smoke, it's secondhand smoke. If you have evidence, please present it.
(hint - don't waste your time. Scientific studies show no link between secondhand smoke and cancer.)
Not when you try to eat in a place that belongs to someone else.
You and I have a basic disagreement that has come up every time we talk about this stuff, ever since I've known you.
And that is that you are for government control and intervention, and I am not. You, and correct me if I don't word this properly, want the government to ensure safety in places of business. I say this is the responsibility of the business owner, and if they choose not to do so, the public will vote with their dollar - no legislating needed.
There is a certain restaurant in town that is so filthy dirty that I have no idea why anyone would risk eating there. But people do. I choose not to, and haven't been there in years. I don't feel the need to sic the health inspector on them, or complain that I have a right to eat there without fear of roaches and getting food poisoning. I simply go somewhere else.
Other folks DO eat there, and enjoy it. Good for them. :shrug:
tommyjones
New Member
thats not true at all, there have been several studies that have shown that high levels of second hand smoke cause health problems....
so what makes the smoke a smoker inhales less harmful than the second hand smoke?
its all the same smoke.....
Larry Gude
Strung Out
No...
...there is not. It is believed that it CAN, not that it does. Smoking is bad for you, no doubt, but that is up to the individual and the negative affects are widely varied INCLUDING stress relief for many which is a net positive seeings how stress kills more people than smoking does. By far.
The dangers and ills of second hand smoke are pseudo science.
...there is not. It is believed that it CAN, not that it does. Smoking is bad for you, no doubt, but that is up to the individual and the negative affects are widely varied INCLUDING stress relief for many which is a net positive seeings how stress kills more people than smoking does. By far.
The dangers and ills of second hand smoke are pseudo science.
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toppick08
Guest
That's
.......When Duke's Bar was in it's heyday, a lot of real working men would come in and discuss things.........with a ciggy, coffee, or even a beer..
tommyjones
New Member
its the same smoke
tommyjones
New Member
That's
they didn't serve cigs or cigars?????
but they did have a liquor license
hmmmmmmm
MMDad
Lem Putt
Show us a study that supports your opinion.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Yes...
...and if you took 10th grade biology the term 'dispersion' isn't news to you.
I don't smoke. Quit nearly seven years ago. Don't miss it, at all. I feel far better now than then. I think smokers are morons. Thing is, I do things that smokers may not like or support and they may think me a moron yet if I want their support for the things I like then it only makes sense to support them in the things they like as the precedent of the way in which they are being persecuted can be used on me. And you. And for ANYTHING that the mob happens to be stirred up about.
...and if you took 10th grade biology the term 'dispersion' isn't news to you.
I don't smoke. Quit nearly seven years ago. Don't miss it, at all. I feel far better now than then. I think smokers are morons. Thing is, I do things that smokers may not like or support and they may think me a moron yet if I want their support for the things I like then it only makes sense to support them in the things they like as the precedent of the way in which they are being persecuted can be used on me. And you. And for ANYTHING that the mob happens to be stirred up about.
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toppick08
Guest
they didn't serve cigs or cigars?????
but they did have a liquor license
hmmmmmmm
Had 3 Ciggy machines...:shrug:
They didn't serve socialization, either.
You may notice that I normally don't respond to your silliness, even if I accidentally read it by mistake. However, many bars used to sell cigarettes and cigars. And they also had ashtrays, so one can assume that the bar was for smoking as well as drinking and socializing.
Back to zen you go. Don't bother responding to me - I won't read it.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Yeah...
...if you can imagine, there was a time when people actually worried about the bigger problems more than the little ones.
they didn't serve cigs or cigars?????
but they did have a liquor license
hmmmmmmm
...if you can imagine, there was a time when people actually worried about the bigger problems more than the little ones.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Really?
I smoked. I don't have cancer. HTF did that happen?
My aunt smoked. Quit 20+ years ago. Died of lung cancer.
My uncle smoked 56+ years.
Died when a box truck hit his car.
Guess if he didn't smoke he'd have survived?