Smoking, seriously

[Larry Gude]

It is IMPORTANT to keep this in mind as well; FLOSSING.

When we smoked, the nic killed everything. When you stop, bacteria grows in warm, wet, dark, protected places, your gums between the teeth, yet no longer have the nicotine to kill it.
Bacteria, in general, takes 24 hours to begin to colonize in those warm, wet, dark, tight, protected places. If you do NOT floss at least once every 24 hours, bacteria colonizes, whatever you've breathed in, eaten, whatever #### covered knob your hands touched before you picked your teeth, the bacteria the kids bring home, etc, etc, COLONIZES, sets up shop and you breathe it into your lungs and you swallow it.

From there, your immune system, absent the nicotine, is on it's own along with your general health, nutrition and rest habits.

Throw in stress, strain, lack of mind, body and soul blowing sex, you name it, you're ass is on the path to being new mown grass.

FLOSS. Once a day. And we can end the ACA. <-------bumper sticker

 

[Larry Gude]

I cough and sneeze more now than I ever did when I smoked constantly.

You had a distinctive little hack. Not a couch, a smokers HACK. Is that gone?

 

[vraiblonde]

You had a distinctive little hack. Not a couch, a smokers HACK. Is that gone?

I did not - I had a smokers throat clearing from irritation. It wasn't a true hack where I was peeling my lungs off the furniture and chasing my breath around the room.

And yes, the smoker's *throat clearing* is gone, replaced by actual coughing and sneezing. I've also developed allergies that I never had before.

 

[Gilligan]

Sounds like you need to take smoking back up again.

 

[Larry Gude]

I did not - I had a smokers throat clearing from irritation. It wasn't a true hack where I was peeling my lungs off the furniture and chasing my breath around the room.

And yes, the smoker's *throat clearing* is gone, replaced by actual coughing and sneezing. I've also developed allergies that I never had before.

Some things never change.


Mo, his her smokers hack/throat clearing gone???

 

[Larry Gude]

And yes, the smoker's *throat clearing* is gone, replaced by actual coughing and sneezing. I've also developed allergies that I never had before.

Oh, OK, then.


Good!

 

[Monello]

I see no reason to go back to it (plus Monello would have me killed if I did),

You have been watching too much of the Sopranos. Ya gagootz.

 

[Larry Gude]

Sounds like you need to take smoking back up again.

Nope. What she needs is what we all need and it is on the way!!! SUPER food!!!!

 

[mitzi]

I don't know what machine you use but mine isn't messy at all. I could pay the price but I'm not going to fund those seeking to ban them with the excise tax money. Not to mention that I enjoy the full flavored taste I get from them and I know they don't have the "fire-prevention" chemicals in them.

I think it's just me, rushing and not getting them packed tight. I use an electric machine.

 

[SG_Player1974]

...replaced by actual coughing and sneezing. I've also developed allergies that I never had before.

Exact same here. Quit with the tobacco and now use vaping. Now that I quit smoking tobacco, my SO insists that vaping is worse than tobacco ciggs. Really? Vegetable glycol, Propylene glycol, and nicotine.... that's it! I would think that is a lot better than the hundreds of chemicals in tobacco.

But I digress.... I agree with vrai. Since I quit the tobacco, I have been prone to sickness AND new allergies.

 

[Larry Gude]

...Propylene glycol...

Anti freeze.

It's also in Corona which I used to drink like water so that I could avoid scurvy via limes. I used to have a chronic ache in my right Achilles. I quit Corona's when I found out about C₃H₈O₂
and the ache is gone.

Just saying. <------good ingredient beer (Sierra Nevada)

 

[Larry Gude]

Exact same here. Quit with the tobacco and now use vaping. Now that I quit smoking tobacco, my SO insists that vaping is worse than tobacco ciggs. Really? Vegetable glycol, Propylene glycol, and nicotine.... that's it! I would think that is a lot better than the hundreds of chemicals in tobacco.

But I digress.... I agree with vrai. Since I quit the tobacco, I have been prone to sickness AND new allergies.

Do you floss? Every day?

 

[SG_Player1974]

Do you floss? Every day?

Yep!

 

[SG_Player1974]

Anti freeze.

Lets go ahead and tell the REST of the story shall we?

From the PG Wiki:

"Propylene glycol is used as an humectant (E1520), solvent, and preservative in food and for tobacco products, as well as being one of the major ingredients of the "e-liquid" used in electronic cigarettes along with vegetable glycerin. Propylene glycol is also used in various edible items such as coffee, ice cream, whipped dairy products, beer and soda.[7] Vaporizers used for delivery of pharmaceuticals or personal care products often include propylene glycol among the ingredients they are filled with.[4] Propylene glycol is used as a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations, such as for diazepam and lorazepam which are insoluble in water.[8]"

I guess we better tell the grocery stores to close down! Don't forget about the pharmacy...

 

[vraiblonde]

Nope. What she needs is what we all need and it is on the way!!! SUPER food!!!!

You are SO late to that party. *Some* of us have been eating clean, organic, and nutrition-minded for years.

 

[Midnightrider]

I did not - I had a smokers throat clearing from irritation. It wasn't a true hack where I was peeling my lungs off the furniture and chasing my breath around the room.

And yes, the smoker's *throat clearing* is gone, replaced by actual coughing and sneezing. I've also developed allergies that I never had before.

quite possible that the coughing and sneezing is from your ecig, not from elimination of regular tobacco

Or one of the other chemicals you get in cigs that you don't get in vaping. Formaldehyde? Who knows.

I never felt bad when I smoked like a Turk and I always had good breath - better lung power than many non-smokers, in fact. I didn't wake up hacking out a body part, or wheezing when I walked up a flight of stairs. When I ran at the gym, my legs would give out before my lungs would - Larry used to tease me that I'd smoke on the treadmill if they'd let me. Cutting dramatically back, there was no noticeable improvement in my health or respiratory function. No unicorns or rainbows, no nothing. Just that I wasn't kicking in all that money to MOM or Terry anymore, which was the only reason I quit in the first place.

Now that I'm out of the habit - and yes, peeps, it is a habit and not a true addiction - I see no reason to go back to it (plus Monello would have me killed if I did), but all these little coldies and sinusies and buggies are annoying.

:denial:

you cant really say because you didn't stop ingesting nicotine. Its like a heroine addict saying herione is not addcitive because they were able to stop sooting up, but they continue to snort it. You are still taking the addictive drug

 

[vraiblonde]

you cant really say because you didn't stop ingesting nicotine.

Well, I am now on the same health level as people who are completely nicotine free - read: picking up every bug known to humanity - so same same.

 

[vraiblonde]

Ya gagootz.

 

[Ken King]

I think it's just me, rushing and not getting them packed tight. I use an electric machine.

Ah, I am betting an auger type. I use a manual spoon feed and have no load density problems. Do you keep a little pressure on the end of the filter as the auger loads the tube? That will give you a better load.

 

[Ken King]

Anti freeze.

It's also in Corona which I used to drink like water so that I could avoid scurvy via limes. I used to have a chronic ache in my right Achilles. I quit Corona's when I found out about C₃H₈O₂
and the ache is gone.

Just saying. <------good ingredient beer (Sierra Nevada)

Anti-freeze is (or used to be) ethylene glycol.

:edit: Do not give it to a cat!!!!!