Start the week on a little B-o-W violence?

[Larry Gude]

You know??? We know??? What the hell are you basing this one because I read that entire article and other than the single line about the poor bikers saying they were simply trying to slow him down so they could safely pass I don't see anything indicating there is any proof or that the authorities have any potential proof because this article you posted clearly states there continues to be no indication charges will be brought against the RR driver...

I like a lot of greens in there as well as a back drop for whatever colors you choose.

I suppose it is too much to hope you have some gerbs growing?

 

[Midnightrider]

Ok, so, you're on my side, then? I got the impression you were in the 'sweet little innocent angel' column where this poor guy was a total victim?

Welcome aboard! Prepare to repel seriously pissed off cyber bikers who will be attacking directly!

nope, thats why i called your position pretty retarded.


altercation does not imply guilt, it implies that something happened. As i said before, there is a longer video that shows the initial contact, a motorcycle hitting the guys vehicvle as it passed him. then all the BS started.....
So when was the last time you out ran a mob of motorcycles in your SUV?

 

[Larry Gude]

...I don't see anything indicating there is any proof or that the authorities have any potential proof because this article you posted clearly states there continues to be no indication charges will be brought against the RR driver...

Kwill, right now, if this guy started it, several bikers have turned their videos over to the cops. If they started it and this guy was just a totally random, mind his own business victim, he STILL could have gotten away from them and much sooner had his goal been to keep him wife and child out of harms way.

 

[Larry Gude]

Yet another reason why Americans should be allowed to CCW without a permit. Put a bullet in first one and I bet the rest would scatter like roaches in the light.

What's it going to take before Americans wake up, for a family to be pulled from their vehicle and beaten to death. This is what happens when liberals disarm law abiding citizens, the animals get to run the zoo.

Let's see. CCW without a permit. Hmmm.

Would that include bikers by any chance?

 

[Midnightrider]

Kwill, right now, if this guy started it, several bikers have turned their videos over to the cops. If they started it and this guy was just a totally random, mind his own business victim, he STILL could have gotten away from them and much sooner had his goal been to keep him wife and child out of harms way.

How?

 

[glhs837]

Wheres anything showing he could have gotten away? What you are saying is that after that initial hit, the biker hitting his mirror, he should have gone evasive and tried to break contact? And you know he didnt? How do you know that? Do you know the amount of time that elapsed between that mirror thing and the brake check? How many exits they passed, and how many bikes were between him and that exit?

 

[kwillia]

Kwill, right now, if this guy started it, several bikers have turned their videos over to the cops. If they started it and this guy was just a victim, he STILL could have gotten away from them and much sooner had his goal been to keep him wife and child out of harms way.

Larry, what if the "prior incident" they are referring to is when the biker got too close and clipped his mirror? You have offered up absolutely nothing to be gloating about... I don't get how you feel that article proves you were right all along.

 

[aps45819]

Not yet. And I don't need that anyway. No matter what actually started it, my point just got a WHOLE lot better; protect your wife and kid. Get away from them.

Now, we know he wasn't trapped. Now we know he could have got away MUCH sooner. Now we know he may well not be this totally innocent victim after all.

You got any babies breathe growing? I really like that.

More of the same Larry.
How would you get away form the bikers, would you try to drive away?


....isn't that what he was doing?

 

[Larry Gude]

nope, thats why i called your position pretty retarded.


altercation does not imply guilt, it implies that something happened. As i said before, there is a longer video that shows the initial contact, a motorcycle hitting the guys vehicvle as it passed him. then all the BS started.....
So when was the last time you out ran a mob of motorcycles in your SUV?

Good. Then, when I turn out to be not only right, the guy could have gotten away much sooner (by slowing down, if you'd read ANY of my posts) but, now, I stand alone, defending my position against you entire mob. Draped in Righteousness. Holding fast against the mindless mob. With only truth and common sense to keep me in good stead.

 

[Larry Gude]

How?

Most cars, I've never driven a Range Rover, have this stop pedal right next to the go pedal. It's a sort of potentiometer type thing where it's not all stop or all go, though it can be, where you can SLOW enough so that the crazy mad biker mob gets bored with you and moves on to the next totally innocent, helpless, car person who really wants them all dead.

 

[Larry Gude]

More of the same Larry.
How would you get away form the bikers, would you try to drive away?


....isn't that what he was doing?

You, too?

Well, you see. Right next to the go pedal is a stop pedal but, again, I've never driven a Range Rover so, this is pure speculation on my part...

 

[Midnightrider]

Most cars, I've never driven a Range Rover, have this stop pedal right next to the go pedal. It's a sort of potentiometer type thing where it's not all stop or all go, though it can be, where you can SLOW enough so that the crazy mad biker mob gets bored with you and moves on to the next totally innocent, helpless, car person who really wants them all dead.

so we agree there was no evading the bikers..... there was no getting away, just stopping and getting beaten sooner

 

[Larry Gude]

You have offered up absolutely nothing to be gloating about...

They say it's better to warm up first. You wouldn't want me to pull a gloat muscle, would you???



Also, freesia, I like freesia. Especially the yellow. I just think it smells a little sweeter.


All that aside, my point FROM THE BEGINNING has been the mans responsibility to protect wife and child. Well, some argued he was strapped, didn't have opportunity to get away. That theory is out the window now. he had PLENTY of chance to slow and let them just move on.

So, I can't lose. Now, it's just a matter pf how bad (or good, from my point of view) the final score is.

 

[GW8345]

Let's see. CCW without a permit. Hmmm.

Would that include bikers by any chance?

You like to assume things, assume the RR driver had a permit.

I believe that if the bikers had a weapon, they wouldn't have been using their helmets to break the windows and would have it drawn when they approached the vehicle.

 

[Larry Gude]

so we agree there was no evading the bikers..... there was no getting away, just stopping and getting beaten sooner

No. Seeings how I was right to begin with, my instincts, this guy is a dumb ####, let's just stay with that theme and figure I am probably also right that the bikers woulda got bored with him and moved on. Had he simply slowed.

Pretty safe bet, dontcha think?

 

[aps45819]

You, too?

Well, you see. Right next to the go pedal is a stop pedal but, again, I've never driven a Range Rover so, this is pure speculation on my part...

Watch the video
There are no cars in front of bikes because they're going slow and attempting to stop the SUV.
RR man was NOT going fast when the bike brake checked him.

They were not getting bored, they were not going to leave him alone, they were going to beat the crap out him.

His mistake was in not backing over another dozen when he got blocked by traffic

 

[Larry Gude]

Watch the video
There are no cars in front of bikes because they're going slow and attempting to stop the SUV.
RR man was going fast when the bike brake checked him.

How about we just wait for the rest of the videos, OK? The ones that may well show RR man not such an innocent little angel LONG before the break check?

Who knows, you guys could get REALLY lucky.

 

[Midnightrider]

No. Seeings how I was right to begin with, my instincts, this guy is a dumb ####, let's just stay with that theme and figure I am probably also right that the bikers woulda got bored with him and moved on. Had he simply slowed.

Pretty safe bet, dontcha think?

only in the drunken world of retardo

 

[Larry Gude]

You like to assume things, assume the RR driver had a permit.
.

Glad you stepped into that one, Sunshine!

Had he had a CCR I had damn near guarantee you he would have, LONG before the altercation blew up, gotten way from them because if there is one thing CCW holders DO, it's take extra steps to avoid altercations in the first place.

 

[GW8345]

Most cars, I've never driven a Range Rover, have this stop pedal right next to the go pedal. It's a sort of potentiometer type thing where it's not all stop or all go, though it can be, where you can SLOW enough so that the crazy mad biker mob gets bored with you and moves on to the next totally innocent, helpless, car person who really wants them all dead.

Once again you fail to accept physics, a 3 or 4 thousand pound vehicle is not going to stop in the same distance a 400-800 lb motorcycle is.

Physics, it's a law you can't change, no matter how much you think you can.