Start the week on a little B-o-W violence?

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
You can get away just fine BEFORE you start running into ANY bikes by biting your tongue, swallowing a little pride and just slow down and let 'em go on their way.

. At some point, his pride, and right of way, isn't as important as his wife and kids safety.

Total and absolute fantasy :bs:

You keep claiming that this guy acted aggressively in some sort of testosterone fueled rage and there is nothing to support that
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
You keep claiming that this guy acted aggressively in some sort of testosterone fueled rage and there is nothing to support that

Seeings how I never said anything of the sort, I agree.

I used words like 'annoyed' and 'pissed'. While I used words like 'menace' and so forth to describe the riders.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
I've been saying from word one that RR man should have gotten himself and his wife and his kids away from them. Some folks argued that he didn't have time or opportunity, a plausible assertion. However, [N]my Spidy senses [/B]detected that he could have gotten away early. That he had warning there were problems and that he chose to ignore that.

Seems I was right. However, what I may be wrong about is that he may have played an active part in this, something I have suspected and hinted at but, didn't push.
Is that what we are calling pulling something out of your ass? Because you still haven't explained how he was supposed to get his child and wife out of that situation. I think we agree that he couldn't out run the mob of bikes. That only leaves stopping and taking whatever they decide to dish out. It's clear from the video that some of the riders were intent on escalating the situation and more than one was intent on causing bodily harm.
 

ZARA

Registered User
Wife: Biker husband is victim in NYC altercation

NEW YORK (AP) — Shaky camera footage depicts the gory scene: A driver who police say was frightened when a group of motorcyclists swarmed his Range Rover plowed through them, striking a rider in a purple T-shirt and black helmet.

The biker, Edwin Mieses Jr., suffered broken legs and spine injuries, his wife, Dayana Mieses, said Tuesday outside a hospital.

"There's no hope for his back," Dayana Meises told reporters. "They crushed his spine. They broke it in two different places, so he will be forever, forever paralyzed."

Another man also was injured. Bikers chased after the SUV, then beat the driver, police said. A portion of the Sunday altercation, captured on a helmet-mounted camera worn by another rider, was posted online anonymously. Since then, Dayana Mieses said, the bikers have been portrayed as villains who ambushed an innocent man driving his family. But she said her husband is the victim.

"Everyone wants to blame the bikers for something this man did," she said.

Edwin Mieses, known as Jay Meezee, is an aspiring rapper from outside Boston, and the couple has two children, ages 15 and 9. Dayana Mieses told Boston station WBZ-TV that her husband got off his bike to help another rider who was struck in an initial collision with the SUV.

"When all the bikers stopped, my husband got out, parked his bike to walk over to try to help his friend," she said. "He walked over towards the front of the vehicle when, at this point, I don't know what happened: the man was scared, the man just peeled off and ran over my husband."

I don't care if the RR was break checked or not. That does not give you the right to run some one over.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
Don't know if they've been posted yet, but here's the other videos....

Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack

So what do you think now Larry? These guys were looking for trouble, they were mad because the police wouldn't let them into the city to do their stupid stunt, so they basically took it out on the RR. That guy did nothing wrong and should have run them all over.

Did you see the part where the guy in white pulled way up to get next to the RR, looked in his window and then got in front of him and stopped?
 
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slotpuppy

Ass-hole
So what do you think now Larry? These guys were looking for trouble, they were mad because the police wouldn't let them into the city to do their stupid stunt, so they basically took it out on the RR. That guy did nothing wrong and should have run them all over.

Did you see the part where the guy in white pulled way up to get next to the RR, looked in his window and then got in front of him and stopped?

I am going to have to agree with larry, it was all the fault of the guy in the RR. If he had chose that day to take his kid to the zoo or a park, or even to Cuba, the whole thing would have been avoided. Poor choices on his part were the cause of everything. :coffee:
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
I don't care if the RR was break checked or not. That does not give you the right to run some one over.

I would have run over all of them, that guy was in fear for his life and had his wife and two year old in the car.
 

ZARA

Registered User
I would have run over all of them, that guy was in fear for his life and had his wife and two year old in the car.

Unless they were beating on his RR and trying to break in, his life was not in danger and he overreacted.
 

ZARA

Registered User
They were beating on it when he took off.

That's cause he hit the guy in front of him. At least that is how the sequence of events looked to me.

**Side note: I have been in a situation like that of the RR. Running people over is not the wisest choice.
On the other hand, we ride Harley's and sometimes we ride in packs, If this situation would have happened to me, I would have done the same thing the bikers did..especially after running over one of my friends.
 
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Bay_Kat

Tropical
Unless they were beating on his RR and trying to break in, his life was not in danger and he overreacted.

The RR guy had a weapon, his vehicle, and he used it. Unfortunately it still turned out bad for him. He was surrounded, where was he going to go? They would have pulled him out of his vehicle and probably beat him to death, there were a lot more bikers there than there were when he did get pulled out of his vehicle. Who knows what they may have done to the wife and baby. I don't think he overreacted, he wanted to get away and he took the only route possible.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Unless they were beating on his RR and trying to break in, his life was not in danger and he overreacted.

That's cause he hit the guy in front of him. At least that is how the sequence of events looked to me.

**Side note: I have been in a situation like that of the RR. Running people over is not the wisest choice.
On the other hand, we ride Harley's and sometimes we ride in packs, If this situation would have happened to me, I would have done the same thing the bikers did..especially after running over one of my friends.
You need to watch all of the videos and read the news articles. They were beating on his vehicle.

The bikers started this from the beginning. This guy was riding along minding his own business when these buffoons started in on him. He hit the guy in front of him because the guy shot around and locked up his brakes in front of him.

Go watch ALL of the videos, read the articles and see if you still feel the same.
 
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Bay_Kat

Tropical
You need to watch all of the videos and read the news articles.

The bikers started this from the beginning. This guy was riding along minding his own business when these buffoons started in on him. He hit the guy in front of him because the guy shot around and locked up his brakes in front of him.

Go watch ALL of the videos, read the articles and see if you still feel the same.

Just like I said before, the bikers were angry because they weren't allowed into the city and were looking for someone to take it out on. If the guy had stopped before hitting the first bike, who knows what they would have done to him and his family. A lot more bikes there and a lot less witnesses.
 

ZARA

Registered User
You need to watch all of the videos and read the news articles.

The bikers started this from the beginning. This guy was riding along minding his own business when these buffoons started in on him. He hit the guy in front of him because the guy shot around and locked up his brakes in front of him.

Go watch ALL of the videos, read the articles and see if you still feel the same.

I just did that. I don't like putting my foot in my mouth. And at this point, I have to agree with Bay_Kat. My previous posts / replies were going off information posted here without researching it further. Well I just researched it and thinking to myself the whole time, "If he feared for his life, 1. Why were his doors unlocked? and 2. Why didn't he call 911?

My first thought hasn't been answered, however from what I am finding he did dial 911.

So I am now like our gov't...I have switched sides.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
I just did that. I don't like putting my foot in my mouth. And at this point, I have to agree with Bay_Kat. My previous posts / replies were going off information posted here without researching it further. Well I just researched it and thinking to myself the whole time, "If he feared for his life, 1. Why were his doors unlocked? and 2. Why didn't he call 911?

My first thought hasn't been answered, however from what I am finding he did dial 911.

So I am now like our gov't...I have switched sides.
His doors were locked. They used a helmet to smash his window and drag him out.

Glad you've switched over to the good side. :lol: :buddies:
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
I just did that. I don't like putting my foot in my mouth. And at this point, I have to agree with Bay_Kat. My previous posts / replies were going off information posted here without researching it further. Well I just researched it and thinking to myself the whole time, "If he feared for his life, 1. Why were his doors unlocked? and 2. Why didn't he call 911?

My first thought hasn't been answered, however from what I am finding he did dial 911.

So I am now like our gov't...I have switched sides.

Funny about the 911 thing. I saw this story on all different news shows yesterday and someone had mentioned how afraid the police in NY are because of that "stop and frisk" fiasco they are going through right now. The police basically wanted to keep them out of the city and not have to deal with them.
 
I just did that. I don't like putting my foot in my mouth. And at this point, I have to agree with Bay_Kat. My previous posts / replies were going off information posted here without researching it further. Well I just researched it and thinking to myself the whole time, "If he feared for his life, 1. Why were his doors unlocked? and 2. Why didn't he call 911?

My first thought hasn't been answered, however from what I am finding he did dial 911.

So I am now like our gov't...I have switched sides.
His door wasn't unlocked. One of the bikers bashed in his window with his helmet.
 

PlayStation

Kratos is my hero
His doors were locked. They used a helmet to smash his window and drag him out.

Glad you've switched over to the good side. :lol: :buddies:


No, his doors were unlocked. They opened his door, he hit the gas. Much later in the video, his doors were locked and they broke the glass then.
 
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