Start the week on a little B-o-W violence?
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DipStick
Keep Calm and Don't Care!
You're seriously defending these guys? This was a gang that had no regard for any laws or the safety of others. They had an SUV surrounded, one guy stopped in the middle of the road right in front of him and then an army of thugs stopped right in front of him.
I would've done exactly what the driver of the SUV did - run over them to get out of a dangerous situation and called the cops.
And I doubt a gun would've helped him at all.
I don't see how the man could have slowed down and let the bikers pass - it does not look like they were going to let him. And, generally speaking, when people edit videos, there's usually something incriminating that they edit out.
Using Larry's logic - why didn't the bikers pull over and let the guy in the SUV with road rage pass. It's thugs like these bikers that give bikers, in general, a bad reputation... people with no regard for the law, people who have no regard for the safety of others and people who think the rest of the highway should yield to them.
GWguy
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Apparently, the guy who used his silver helmet to bash in the window has been identified, works at a sandwich shop, has a long list of priors including drug and robbery. He's expected to turn himself in on Monday.
They were all a bunch of thugs just waiting for an opportunity to be stupid.
By the way, the organizer of the group is being called a momma's boy and actually lives in his momma's basement, but is an adult.
The stuff went by too quick on the news to get names.
They were all a bunch of thugs just waiting for an opportunity to be stupid.
By the way, the organizer of the group is being called a momma's boy and actually lives in his momma's basement, but is an adult.
The stuff went by too quick on the news to get names.
It just keeps getting better, seems one of the animals is an undercover NYPD cop.......who just stood by as his animal buddies pulled the guy from the RR and beat him, tells you what kind of cops they have up in NY.
Undercover NYPD cop stood by as bikers beat dad | New York Post
And I just love this little nugget
Of course he was, he was just out for a nice Sunday drive not doing anything wrong........except he didn't even have a eff'ing license and was driving illegally.
Undercover NYPD cop stood by as bikers beat dad | New York Post
And I just love this little nugget
Of course he was, he was just out for a nice Sunday drive not doing anything wrong........except he didn't even have a eff'ing license and was driving illegally.
Bay_Kat
Tropical
MarieB
New Member
Dude, he's not defending the bikers. Holy crap. Everyone would have done what the driver did - run them over to get out of that situation.
He's talking about what happened BEFORE the RR was in that situation.... In other words, why did the bikers swarm the RR? That's the part we don't know. Something happened to make all of the bikers focus on the RR....what was it? That's what we don't know, because (conveniently) there's no video of what led up to the bikers brake-checking the dude. You mean to tell me that 50+ riders with gopros all missed that part? Please. RR did something, and it attracted the attention of the bikers. THAT IN NO WAY DEFENDS THE BIKERS. IT JUST MEANS SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT TURNED THE GROUP RIDE INTO A GROUP HARASSMENT AND EVENTUAL BEATDOWN.
mamatutu
mama to two
Well, conveniently, there is no video because it was probably even more incriminating. Those bikers were all over the road, acting like idiots, and not obeying traffic laws or 'lines' in the road. The RR had the right to be on the road. It is called mob mentality took over, and bad things happened. The bikers are just lucky that more were not injured. You get what you give.
RR did the right thing.
Bay_Kat
Tropical
He was off duty.
But hey, better let a person get beat to death then blow his cover.
I know right?
And as discussed before, there's right and then there's dead right. RR did *something* to attract their attention. Legally, yea....he did the right thing. He has every right to be on the road, and the biker were acting like douches. No one is arguing against that. What we are, however, is arguing about what happened to lead up to the "mob mentality". That's what the RR did that wasn't so street-smart. Or who knows, maybe it was a bumper sticker that said "I hate bikers." Whatever. The point is, there were thousands of other cars who didn't get targeted. He got targeted. He did something that attracted that. Legal or not, that wasn't to his favor. Whatever it was, that didn't work out for him....
Tell me, do you think that he did nothing different than the other cars? If you do, then that is a fundamental difference in our view. If you think he *did* do something different than the other cars, maybe that's what the RR should not have done.
Saying that RR did something to provoke the bikers is pure speculation.
Bottom line is, we are going by the facts presented, the bikers attacked the RR driver and that is nothing in the world to warrant that. The bikers are not LEO so no matter what he did the bikes did not have a right or justification for their actions.
And as far as the guy who got ran over, if he was an innocent by stander how did he get ran over. He had to be in front of the RR trying to block it in so his buddies can attack it, he placed him self in danger and paid the price. And, he did not have a license and has a rap sheet that is quite long, he placed himself in that position and is now crying about it.
Here's what they wanted to do.... here's last year's ride.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znthlgp3Hw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That's what they wanted to do. Not beat the crap out of someone.
Here's what I imagined happened.... one of two things.
1)RR dude was frustrated that they were blocking the streets, and decided he wasn't going to let them bully him into pulling off to the side. That's not very smart, street-wise. That pissed them off, and they targeted him. He defended himself the only way he could, and ran their asses over.
2) RR dude wasn't paying attention and wasn't moving out of the way. That pissed them off, and they targeted him. He defended himself the only way he could, and ran their asses over.
Neither of those scenarios defends the bikers. It just explains what we don't know.... which is why the bikers changed focus from a group ride to a group beatdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znthlgp3Hw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That's what they wanted to do. Not beat the crap out of someone.
Here's what I imagined happened.... one of two things.
1)RR dude was frustrated that they were blocking the streets, and decided he wasn't going to let them bully him into pulling off to the side. That's not very smart, street-wise. That pissed them off, and they targeted him. He defended himself the only way he could, and ran their asses over.
2) RR dude wasn't paying attention and wasn't moving out of the way. That pissed them off, and they targeted him. He defended himself the only way he could, and ran their asses over.
Neither of those scenarios defends the bikers. It just explains what we don't know.... which is why the bikers changed focus from a group ride to a group beatdown.
GWguy
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They've been saying that for a while, trying to paint a picture of a real church-going, kitten-saving kind of guy.
You're assuming I'm saying he provoked them intentionally. It could have been a bumper sticker for all we know. Or he could have flipped them off. Or his kid could have made a funny face. Doesn't matter. Something provoked them.
No one is saying they had a right. Instead, we're trying to understand what provoked them, so we don't do the same and get our asses beat too.
EDIT: Dude who got paralyzed parked his bike and ran over to help another biker who got hit by the RR. RR then drove over him. He wasn't trying to block it, but he was still part of the stupidity.
With a rap sheet a mile long and never having a motorcycle, let along a drivers, license.
As pure as a whore on a Sunday morning.
Bay_Kat
Tropical
But what I get from this is that RR guy had no right to be there. Any day on any road, if you aren't going fast enough, people GO AROUND YOU. The RR was in the right lane, there were two other lanes for the bikes to go around him.
Ok. Let me try this another way.
You're walking down the sidewalk. You see a group of 12 known gangbangers, all wearing red, all throwing up Blood gang signs. You have every right to walk right through them. I'm not saying you don't. All I'm saying is, in that scenario.... you might want to tread carefully. You might want to report them to the police, as you pick a different route. You might not want to just walk through the gang.
EDIT: You're also missing the part where SOMETHING HAPPENED TO PROVOKE THE BIKERS. They went around every other car. You think they just went around all the other cars, and then chose the RR to mess with?