Start the week on a little B-o-W violence?

[bcp]

Wait. Let's do a test first. Read;

"If you drive your car into a motorcycle that is part of a large group of obviously unruly, very aggressive riders, they will likely be hostile to you."

If you stop your car for a group of unruly, very aggressive riders, they will likely be hostile to you. What other reason did the ass have for pulling in front of the SUV and trying to force it to stop? Do you honestly think that they were going to let the SUV just go again after it stopped?

So, I ask you, if you are on a bike and are part of an unruly agressive group of riders, and you decide to stop an suv so your unruly animalistic cohorts can attack, dont be surprised if you end up going down.
then, if it happens to be a GMC dually involved, do not be surprised when you take off to chase him, if he starts moving back and forth quickly to take as many down as possible, leaving a pile of bikes in the road that will give him time to get his family to safety.

I have this theory in life, I care about others just as much as they care about me, and no more.

 

[Larry Gude]

All I got out of this is my LR has enough ground clearance, and the drive train is beefy enough, that I don't think there are any bike "clubs" out there with enough bikes I can't drive over. Flat tire or no...

You're in your truck, you feel threatened?? THEY are the defenseless ones.. (unless you're in a Prius, then you're F'd!)

New Range Rover commercial!!!

"The Pile of Motorcycles less traveled. Style. Comfort. Amenities. Ground clearance."

 

[bcp]

Um, you justified the biker mobs reaction when you compared them to a hornets nest.

I thought I already explained this, maybe you need to go back and read my posts again.

The reason I think the bikers started it in the first place is this.
I dont care what Im driving, I am not stupid enough to initiate a confrontation with a few hundred rabid crotch rocketeers.
but as I said, should they decide me and my family are an easy target, I have no problem (while on the phone with the police) driving over them.

 

[Larry Gude]

If you stop your car for a group of unruly, very aggressive riders, they will likely be hostile to you. What other reason did the ass have for pulling in front of the SUV and trying to force it to stop? Do you honestly think that they were going to let the SUV just go again after it stopped? .

Yes. Because to that point, there was no contact. No first punch. Whatever the rider was annoyed about, it wasn't being hit. It was just whatever you, or I, would like to assume but, it wasn't contact. Had he, had I just STOPPED, he, the one rider, would have just gone on before long. The other bikes would have kept going. Cars would start going around, the one rider would, in short order be alone and most likely just flipped me off and left. At least, that's what I assume, yes, assume, would happen.

Now, we can, of course, take RR man's chosen course of action and, well...

 

[Larry Gude]

The reason I think the bikers started it in the first place is this.
I dont care what Im driving, I am not stupid enough to initiate a confrontation with a few hundred rabid crotch rocketeers.
but as I said, should they decide me and my family are an easy target, I have no problem (while on the phone with the police) driving over them.

And I have said a BILLION times, I have NO doubt the riders started it. And then, no doubt, RR got pissed, annoyed, whatever, and crowded one of them or brake checked them or followed too closely or flipped one of them off or whatever.

Time for RR man to bite his tongue, swallow his pride, focus on wife and kid and wherever they were going and just...let the mob go on.

 

[Larry Gude]

So, I ask you, if you are on a bike and are part of an unruly agressive group of riders, and you decide to stop an suv so your unruly animalistic cohorts can attack, dont be surprised if you end up going down. .

The surprise would be me being there. At all.

I do not ride with guys like that. I do not hang with guys like that. I do not ride like that.

I HAVE been with the guys I ride with AND seen some of them, including me, get pissed at some dumb move by someone in a car that put us all at risk. There's been birds thrown around and some naughty words but, most people don't really want a confrontation, least of all us, exposed, on bikes.

Unlike young dudes who ride like a holes and could give a flying ####. Which is why I don't ride with them.

 

[GW8345]

Yes. Because to that point, there was no contact. No first punch. Whatever the rider was annoyed about, it wasn't being hit. It was just whatever you, or I, would like to assume but, it wasn't contact. Had he, had I just STOPPED, he, the one rider, would have just gone on before long. The other bikes would have kept going. Cars would start going around, the one rider would, in short order be alone and most likely just flipped me off and left. At least, that's what I assume, yes, assume, would happen.

Now, we can, of course, take RR man's chosen course of action and, well...

Here, I'll repost this for you since you seem to ingored this;

And, you are also assuming that the RR driver had time/distance to stop, even though the bike was a mere few feet in front of the RR. What's that old standard, for every 10 mph there is are suppose to be 1 car length distance between you and the vehicile in front/behind you. So, the biker gets in front of the RR with less then one car length between him and the RR, they are going well over 10 mph, and then "steps" on brake and it's the RR fault, reality has escaped you today hasn't it.

Now, how is it the RR's fault for hitting the biker when the biker cut in front of the RR and "stepped" on the brake without proper distance between the two vehicles? Is the RR suppose to suddenly disregard the laws of physics and come to an instant stop? Does the laws of momentum mean anything to you, how about Newton’s First Law?

You are so hung up on the RR being the one that hit the biker that you have completely ignored the laws of physics and reality, maybe you should re-examine the physics of the incident.

 

[Larry Gude]

Now, how is it the RR's fault for hitting the biker when the biker cut in front of the RR and "stepped" on the brake without proper distance between the two vehicles? Is the RR suppose to suddenly disregard the laws of physics and come to an instant stop? Does the laws of momentum mean anything to you, how about Newton’s First Law?

You are so hung up on the RR being the one that hit the biker that you have completely ignored the laws of physics and reality, maybe you should re-examine the physics of the incident.

If you don't think, based on that video, that the driver didn't have PLENTY of time and room to avoid hitting him, you, sir, are high.

They rider cramped him. Granted.

The rider initiated the contact. Granted.

The rider was acting belligerently. Granted.

The RR ran into the bike.

And could have and should have avoided it.

And then not moved an inch until bikers left.

 

[PsyOps]

If you don't think, based on that video, that the driver didn't have PLENTY of time and room to avoid hitting him, you, sir, are high.

They rider cramped him. Granted.

The rider initiated the contact. Granted.

The rider was acting belligerently. Granted.

The RR ran into the bike.

And could have and should have avoided it.

And then not moved an inch until bikers left.

OMG... the logic

 

[vraiblonde]

OMG... the logic

 

[Midnightrider]

tbere is a slightly longer video that shows the initial contact. A bike hit the RR's mirror as the bike went by, then the bikers got all aggressive and surronded the RR. thats when this tape starts.....

 

[vraiblonde]

tbere is a slightly longer video that shows the initial contact. A bike hit the RR's mirror as the bike went by, then the bikers got all aggressive and surronded the RR. thats when this tape starts.....

Well now you're in for it. Flight attendants, prepare for takeoff....

 

[kwillia]

I just watched the video and it is obvious the biker who intentionally jumped in front of the RR and hiit his brakes was a fault. I also do not believe the driver of the RR should be faulted for his "flight rather than fight" response as his immediate priority would be to remove his wife and kid from being surrounded by a gang of bikers who have already proven themselves to be aggressive and looking for a fight.

Shame on anyone who wants to fault the RR driver especially after watching the tape.

 

[Larry Gude]

tbere is a slightly longer video that shows the initial contact. A bike hit the RR's mirror as the bike went by, then the bikers got all aggressive and surronded the RR. thats when this tape starts.....

Oh, no! The bikers started it all?! And here all this time I've been saying the bikers started it all!

Nooooo!!!!

 

[Larry Gude]

Shame on anyone who wants to fault the RR driver especially after watching the tape.

All I faulted him for was putting himself and his family in danger. That's all he could have done. That's what he should have done.

 

[Larry Gude]

Um, you justified the biker mobs reaction when you compared them to a hornets nest.

I thought I already explained this, maybe you need to go back and read my posts again.

No. You might take it that way but, sorry pal, it's a long way from saying 'this is what they will do' to saying 'this is what they are justified in doing'.

You bridge that gap, get the distinction, you'll go far.

 

[Midnightrider]

Oh, no! The bikers started it all?! And here all this time I've been saying the bikers started it all!

Nooooo!!!!

for someone who thinks the bikers started it all you sure have been placing all the blame on the guy in the RR.

 

[bcp]

All I faulted him for was putting himself and his family in danger. That's all he could have done. That's what he should have done.

Isnt that the same as blaming a rape victim because she was foolish enough to walk out of her house looking pretty?

 

[Midnightrider]

All I faulted him for was putting himself and his family in danger. That's all he could have done. That's what he should have done.

this is from the story dixie posted. This is what happened after the brakecheck "accident"

After the driver and motorcyclist pulled over, they were quickly surrounded by 20 to 30 bikers who began damaging the victim's Range Rover, police said.

sounds like he was trying to get his family out of danger.

 

[Larry Gude]

for someone who thinks the bikers started it all you sure have been placing all the blame on the guy in the RR.

The blame on the RR guy is fto his own personal safety and that of his wife and kid. If y'all are saying he was just too stupid to know any better, fine.

Now, with your post, he's even dumber. Not only is he surrounded by unruly bikers BUT they strike his car AND he STILL doesn't just slow enough for them to all go away.

In what universe is it going to get any better by NOT finding a way to get away from them by slowing until they leave? Lose the battle, win the war? They'll suddenly become reasonable if you keep up with them? Point out that they are being naughty and owe you for a mirror?