Start the week on a little B-o-W violence?

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Again, you don't know that. He may have been simply scared. That's what I'd have been feeling - fear, not anger.

:lol:

I suppose what would be worth trying with someone who didn't know you.

Hey, maybe you've mellowed. A lot. Maybe people behaving poorly, the riders, no longer incites your wrath.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The only reason things ‘spiraled out of control’ is because the RR dude was dealing with a group of about 40 thugs intent on start crap somewhere. There are some that will do all they can to get away from it and will likely fail because the group of thugs have chosen their target and will relentlessly go after them. There are some that will DEFEND THEMSELVES – ala George Zimmerman – because they have a right to.

THAT right there is OUTSTANDING!!!!

:clap:

You really think the left is right, that George Zimmerman threw the first punch???? I never thought that, not even once.
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
Ah, grasshopper. In the care of your wife and children, their safety, there is no 'try'. There is only do. Or do not.

Dude, you, thank you, illustrated quite well what RR man was probably thinking and feeling. Things, rapidly, spiraled out of control from there. I have not justified the mob in any way, shape or form. I have simply pointed out the obvious about it, it's nature and why, same as a hornets nest.

Folks, in a fascinating self righteous zeal, have taken my written words and chosen to impute things not said NOR implied. Quite the opposite, actually, just making it up, all in a fascinating effort to exact a sort of vengeance against a common enemy.

This has really been a fascinating exercise in mob behavior which, if you think about it, explains how the biker mob works.

Pretty cool. :buddies:
Please look at the bolded words of your post.

One, you are assuming what the RR driver was thinking and did prior to the video to justify your position. The only person who is making anything up is you.

Two, humans are not insects, we have the ability to reason and for rational thought, we do not react like a bunch of hornets who’s nest has just been disturbed. Comparing those bikers to a nest of hornets is excusing their actions, hornets are not known for rational thought and react on instincts, humans are able to control those actions.

Again Larry, you are assuming details and facts to support your point of view. No one is taking your words out of context, they are replying to what you wrote. If your intent is different then I suggest you examine what you wrote and maybe change the words you use because I find it hard to believe that everyone but you has mistaken what you wrote. When everyone in the room read something written on the wall and agrees on what it says one person who is right, that one person or all the others who are in agreement?
 
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Larry Gude

Strung Out
...humans are not insects, we have the ability to reason and for rational thought, we do not react like a bunch of hornets who’s nest has just been disturbed. Guess you missed the video...



...and the LA riots

And high school

And...
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Please look at the bolded words of your post.

One, you are assuming what the RR driver was thinking and did prior to the video to justify your position. The only person who is making anything up is you.

As I have said, like 90 times now, take away EVERYTHING RRdumb#### may have said, thought, felt, or whatever, prior to hitting the bike.

We KNOW we have a pack/mob/ call it what you will of young males, riding aggressively, ignoring traffic laws, etc.

Given, yes? Absolute given? Yes?

Now, hit one of them.

What will mostly likely happen next?

Based on what DID happen, experience and common sense fills in a LOT of blanks.

For me.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Two, humans are not insects, we have the ability to reason and for rational thought, we do not react like a bunch of hornets who’s nest has just been disturbed. Comparing those bikers to a nest of hornets is excusing their actions, hornets are not known for rational thought and react on instincts, humans are able to control those actions.

Agreed. However, this tends to happen less so with groups of males.

This happens even less in groups of young males.

Add in motorcycles. Lots of them.

Further, self control becomes even more tenuous in groups of males, young ones, on motorcycles. Who are already riding aggressively. And breaking the law.

Now, add in an antagonizing agent.

I realize this may seem like an ENORMOUS leap, all this conjecture I am basing on these facts but, hey.

:buddies:
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
...and the LA riots

And high school

And...

Given the rational you’ve displayed here, the LA Riots were justified because those cops were not convicted and that’s what initiated the riots in the first place.

And now we are comparing grown adults to high school kids.

Keep throwing stuff against the wall, eventually, you will get something to stick………
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
As I have said, like 90 times now, take away EVERYTHING RRdumb#### may have said, thought, felt, or whatever, prior to hitting the bike.

We KNOW we have a pack/mob/ call it what you will of young males, riding aggressively, ignoring traffic laws, etc.

Given, yes? Absolute given? Yes?

Now, hit one of them.

What will mostly likely happen next?

Based on what DID happen, experience and common sense fills in a LOT of blanks.
For me.
Once again you are assuming something to which you do not know the facts.

And, you are also assuming that the RR driver had time/distance to stop, even though the bike was a mere few feet in front of the RR. What's that old standard, for every 10 mph there is are suppose to be 1 car length distance between you and the vehicile in front/behind you. So, the biker gets in front of the RR with less then one car length between him and the RR, they are going well over 10 mph, and then "steps" on brake and it's the RR fault, reality has escaped you today hasn't it.

Also, what is experience and common sense to you may not be the same to others, your are viewing this issue through jaded glasses.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Given the rational you’ve displayed here, the LA Riots were justified because…

Take some time. Review every post I wrote. Let me know when you find where I justified the biker mob. At all. About anything.

We just might find the glaring flaw in your thought and reasoning process. What we won't find is where I justified mob behavior.


Wait. Let's do a test first. Read;

"If you drive your car into a motorcycle that is part of a large group of obviously unruly, very aggressive riders, they will likely be hostile to you."

Did I;

A. Justify them being hostile to you
B. Pick on your choice of car
C. Make a value judgment on the relative merits of riding a motorcycle over driving a car

or

D. State the obvious.


(Tip: When taking multiple choice tests, studies have shown that when you are not sure, more often than not, but not always, D is your best bet.)


Maybe we can fix it all right here!

Good luck!

:buddies:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
All I got out of this is my LR has enough ground clearance, and the drive train is beefy enough, that I don't think there are any bike "clubs" out there with enough bikes I can't drive over. Flat tire or no...

You're in your truck, you feel threatened?? THEY are the defenseless ones.. (unless you're in a Prius, then you're F'd!)
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
Unless I am wearing my contacts.

Dude, if you are going to change my posts, at least have the balls to say so.

Now, why don't you answer some of the questions posed to you, like what would you have done if you were the RR driver, if you had a weapon, what should the RR driver have done.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Once again you are assuming something to which you do not know the facts.

.

This is truly fascinating. I just said remove ALL of that subjective stuff. Just toss it out of the equation and use two undeniable facts; RR hit bike. Bike was part of unruly, law breaking group of aggressive riders.

And you still think I am the one assuming...


Fascinating.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Dude, if you are going to change my posts, at least have the balls to say so.

Now, why don't you answer some of the questions posed to you, like what would you have done if you were the RR driver, if you had a weapon, what should the RR driver have done.

Here. Let's try this.


#### you.

You could give a flying crap about what I write and, to be fair, I no longer give a rats ass what you have to say.

Have a nice day, pal.

:buddies:
 

GW8345

Not White House Approved
Take some time. Review every post I wrote. Let me know when you find where I justified the biker mob. At all. About anything.

We just might find the glaring flaw in your thought and reasoning process. What we won't find is where I justified mob behavior.


Wait. Let's do a test first. Read;

"If you drive your car into a motorcycle that is part of a large group of obviously unruly, very aggressive riders, they will likely be hostile to you."

Did I;

A. Justify them being hostile to you
B. Pick on your choice of car
C. Make a value judgment on the relative merits of riding a motorcycle over driving a car

or

D. State the obvious.


(Tip: When taking multiple choice tests, studies have shown that when you are not sure, more often than not, but not always, D is your best bet.)


Maybe we can fix it all right here!

Good luck!

:buddies:
Um, you justified the biker mobs reaction when you compared them to a hornets nest.

I thought I already explained this, maybe you need to go back and read my posts again.
 
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