Stormy Daniels in court.

HemiHauler

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Oh, I know how it works and this ain't it. This judge will be rebuked for allowing her testimony and pretty much giving the defense strong grounds for appeal on reversible error. Her testimony was salacious and prejudicial to the defendant and it is his duty to avoid that.

The witness list and the reasons for them being a witness is provided to the defense team in advance. It likely included language like, “Daniels’ testimony was necessary to establish a motive to cover up.”

Seems about as standard as it gets.

The story is only salacious because it damages the defense.
 
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Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
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The witness list and the reasons for them being a witness is provided to the defense team in advance. It likely included language like, “Daniels’ testimony was necessary to establish a motive to cover up.”

Seems about as standard as it gets.

The story is only salacious because it damages the defense.
Is it standard to hold the witness schedule until the eve of appearance? To coverup which of the 34 indicted acts? No, her appearance was Bragg's effort to bring in collateral evidence.
 

HemiHauler

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Is it standard to hold the witness schedule until the eve of appearance? To coverup which of the 34 indicted acts? No, her appearance was Bragg's effort to bring in collateral evidence.

The only legal requirement is to furnish the witness list. There is zero legal requirent to establish a schedule of witness appearances.

Is it standard? Perhaps not. But I’m only concerned with legalities.
 
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GURPS

INGSOC
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You are not a lawyer or judge. I think everyone in the courtroom has a better understanding of procedure than you do so i will defer to them instead of some loudmouth MAGA who wishes he was Stormy Daniels.

Her testimony was limited and the defense made multiple objections that were sustained.

Keep making your whole life about defending the indefensible.

Grab em by the Pu$$y wasn't admitted into evidence.



Your entire post is a study in bullshit. In your rambling rhetoric filled diatribe, you did not make one single coherent argument. That had to be intentional, because most people, even when they're blathering about whatever, will most often accidentally make a point. You, however, managed to dodge that bullet with efficiency and finesse.





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GURPS

INGSOC
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The judge limited her testimony. The defense was free to object and did. Most of the details were already public knowledge.

They have already tried all those things and have been rejected.

Everyone already knew Trump is a scumbag who cheated on his wife who was at home with their newborn.

Bill Clinton *coff* * coff*


Your entire post is a study in bullshit. In your rambling rhetoric filled diatribe, you did not make one single coherent argument. That had to be intentional, because most people, even when they're blathering about whatever, will most often accidentally make a point. You, however, managed to dodge that bullet with efficiency and finesse.
 

CPUSA

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Here we have a case that never should have been brought, and salacious testimony by a paid professional sex worker.
Then we have an old lady who claims she was raped in a department store changing room she doesn't remember what day it was, why she didn't scream and she was wearing a dress that hadn't been made yet
Then we have a trial where Trump was found guilty of fraud without a trial and fined Millions of dollars, and yet the loans were all paid off with interest.
Next we have the FBI creating their own evidence in a trial brought forth by a Jack Smith jack-off who wasn't properly authorized to bring it.
And we have Fani Willis boyfriend going to the white House for instructions .

But we as American are supposed to have faith in our Judicial system.
If they can jam this shut up Trumps billionaire ass what chance have we as individuals got.?
See, these are the type of White Supremacist Extremist questions that HH & SMC79 will run away from...
Truth be told, they know they will never have to worry about going thru what President Trump is going thru because...they are absolute nobodies in this world. They realize they could get railroaded tomorrow for nothing just on a local level & nobody would bat an eye. They think it's just great what is happening to President Trump because their lives are so sad & pathetic, it's one of the few things that gives them a sick sense of joy...

I can't help but feel so bad for them, that I wished they could be euthanized, so as to end their pain & misery....
 

BOP

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The witness list and the reasons for them being a witness is provided to the defense team in advance. It likely included language like, “Daniels’ testimony was necessary to establish a motive to cover up.”

Seems about as standard as it gets.

The story is only salacious because it damages the defense.
They're depending on an adult porn star to make their case.

 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
The only legal requirement is to furnish the witness list. There is zero legal requirent to establish a schedule of witness appearances.

Is it standard? Perhaps not. But I’m only concerned with legalities.
Good enough, care to comment on the statute of limitations. According to everything I have seen is that the payments leading to the charges of fraudulent record keeping took place in 2017. So if the charges are misdemeanors there would be a two year limitation to prosecute. If they are felonies then the limit would be 5 years. Bragg's grand jury handed up the indictments in 2023.
 

HemiHauler

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Good enough, care to comment on the statute of limitations. According to everything I have seen is that the payments leading to the charges of fraudulent record keeping took place in 2017. So if the charges are misdemeanors there would be a two year limitation to prosecute. If they are felonies then the limit would be 5 years. Bragg's grand jury handed up the indictments in 2023.

I recall reading that in New York State, the clock stops on the Statute of Limitations when you leave the state. Trump moved to Florida or otherwise spent enough time there to stop said clock.

I assumed that would be adjudicated but don’t recall if it was or what the outcome was. Has the defense raised this as an issue? Asking because I’ve missed enough coverage that I’m not sure if they have and what the disposition of it is.
 
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vraiblonde

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Still never saying that you wish death on people?

Everyone dies. Literally everyone. My wishes or lack thereof have nothing to do with it. I simply want these particular people to die in a federal prison because they have been incarcerated for their crimes, not comfortably in their beds because they got away with it.

Not sure why you bots get so worked up :cds: :jameo: but whatever. Everyone needs a hobby, I guess.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
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I recall reading that in New York State, the clock stops on the Statute of Limitations when you leave the state. Trump moved to Florida or otherwise spent enough time there to stop said clock.
New York Rules of Criminal Procedure, provide that if the defendant was “continuously outside” the state or “the whereabouts of the defendant were continuously unknown and continuously unascertainable by the exercise of reasonable diligence,” the time for the state to bring charges against a person may be extended. Given that it was certainly known where Trump was and was not purposely avoiding anything, I would think that wouldn't be applicable.
I assumed that would be adjudicated but don’t recall if it was or what the outcome was. Has the defense raised this as an issue? Asking because I’ve missed enough coverage that I’m not sure if they have and what the disposition of it is.
Don't know if that was adjudicated or not, I recall mention early on that it was an issue, but I also don't know any of the details. I also remember something about Covid being used to justify the delay in Bragg bringing the case to the grand jury. I guess there should be something out there one way or the other.
 

BOP

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I recall reading that in New York State, the clock stops on the Statute of Limitations when you leave the state. Trump moved to Florida or otherwise spent enough time there to stop said clock.

I assumed that would be adjudicated but don’t recall if it was or what the outcome was. Has the defense raised this as an issue? Asking because I’ve missed enough coverage that I’m not sure if they have and what the disposition of it is.
Okay, fair point. Credit where credit is due.

I honestly don't know the answer to that, but I would be interested in it.
 

SamSpade

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WHAT IS THE CRIME NO ONE CAN TELL US!!!
As near as I can tell -

Presumably coming up with an NDA with Stormy - buying the story and killing it - constitutes "election interference".
Here's where I get confused --

Cohen pays this himself - making it a "campaign contribution" written off as a legal expense. Trump pays him - somewhere in there is the concern about dodging taxes, so Trump pays him more, to compensate.

So there's a crime in there SOMEWHERE, whether Cohen allowed to give more than the allowed contribution, tax avoidance by overcompensating an expense so that he doesn't avoid taxes with a contribution that is actually a legal expense - really, it hurts my mind to try and figure it out.
 
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HemiHauler

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New York Rules of Criminal Procedure, provide that if the defendant was “continuously outside” the state or “the whereabouts of the defendant were continuously unknown and continuously unascertainable by the exercise of reasonable diligence,” the time for the state to bring charges against a person may be extended. Given that it was certainly known where Trump was and was not purposely avoiding anything, I would think that wouldn't be applicable.

Don't know if that was adjudicated or not, I recall mention early on that it was an issue, but I also don't know any of the details. I also remember something about Covid being used to justify the delay in Bragg bringing the case to the grand jury. I guess there should be something out there one way or the other.

I mean if this were a serious issue, I’d imagine the defense team would be shouting it from the rooftops and making a huge issue of it. I reckon the reason they aren’t is because it isn’t an issue which will put the prosecution’s case in peril.
 

HemiHauler

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As near as I can tell -

Presumably coming up with an NDA with Stormy - buying the story and killing it - constitutes "election interference".
Here's where I get confused --

Cohen pays this himself - making it a "campaign contribution" written off as a legal expense. Trump pays him - somewhere in there is the concern about dodging taxes, so Trump pays him more, to compensate.

So there's a crime in there SOMEWHERE, whether Cohen allowed to give more than the allowed contribution, tax avoidance by overcompensating an expense so that he doesn't avoid taxes with a contribution that is actually a legal expense - really, it hurts my mind to try and figure it out.

I don’t understand why the alleged crimes are so mysterious. Have you read the full text of the indictment?

It’s fine if you believe this is political persecution, but to feign dismay as to what the allegations are is just plain silly.
 

CPUSA

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I don’t understand why the alleged crimes are so mysterious. Have you read the full text of the indictment?

It’s fine if you believe this is political persecution, but to feign dismay as to what the allegations are is just plain silly.
Everybody knows what the ALLEGATIONS are, you idgit...
We're trying to figure out what CRIME was committed...NONE of the allegations constitute a CRIME taking place. I'm sorry simple Criminal Law confuses you so...
Maybe if you would stop getting your Legal experience from the same place E Jean Carroll got her false accusations against President Trump, maybe then things would begin to come into focus for you...
 

SamSpade

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I don’t understand why the alleged crimes are so mysterious. Have you read the full text of the indictment?

Sorry, no. I don't seem to even have the time to do or read the stuff I need to do.

It’s fine if you believe this is political persecution, but to feign dismay as to what the allegations are is just plain silly.

Well - there's the TIMING of it all - in a campaign season - when the 'crime' occurred nearly a decade ago. To 'cover' an event two decades ago.
And there's the fact that the DA declared he'd get him - via a contortion of the law that to my knowledge has never been used on anyone.

That a judge who should have recused himself has insisted on gagging no one EXCEPT Trump - while everyone else is allowed to go on talk shows and talk all about it, for months - hence poisoning the jury pool. And it did - a huge portion of the potential jurors admitted they could not render a fair verdict. The same judge who should have simply STOPPED Stormy's testimony - but allowed it and only afterward admitted that it shouldn't have been done.

Far too many directly connected to the White House have their hand in the cookie jar, so to speak - who can argue that a senile, compus non mentis President would be re-elected easily - unless you can incarcerate his opponent? At its simplest - it's the kind of thing you'd expect to see in Russia or China.

And were it someone NOT political or at least, IMPORTANT - no one would bother. So there can be zero question, yes, it's for poltical reasons.

We absolutely, literally have murderers, thieves and rapists - crimes no one would disagree are REAL crimes - in the same jurisdiction - getting back out into the streets, and they want to lock up a President for a crime that your average person could not explain, nor point to a victim.
 
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