Thank God for Smoke Free Restaurants!

Makavide

Not too talkative
Mikeinsmd said:
:killingme :killingme

You funny thing you. This is sarcasm right?? How many threads and posts occured today by the non-whiny smoking buttheads??

:killingme :killingme


it is easy to start a thread and whine after the fact - had all the smokers attended the hearing, contacted thier legislatures, it may not have passed so easily.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Makavide said:
it is easy to start a thread and whine after the fact - had all the smokers attended the hearing, contacted thier legislatures, it may not have passed so easily.
You're probably right, even though smokers are the minority they could have been heard to a much larger extent. The adage sticks; you snooze you lose.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
Mousebaby said:
As a reformed smoker I am soooo glad they passed this ban. I want to enjoy my food without smelling that odor! I would refuse to eat at Applebee's and IHOP because it smelled so much like an ashtray. The seperate rooms do not work! Recently I was staying with my mom and my sister. My mother was on one end of the rather large house with her window open, her clean air machine running full blast and her door shut and I came out of my room clear across this house and could smell the cigarette smoke plainly!! It does not work to put people in seperate rooms, non-smokers can and will still smell it! I say :clap: for the new ban! JMHO! :howdy:
"reformed smoker" says it all.
 

Jawbreaker25

New Member
Mousebaby said:
As a reformed smoker I am soooo glad they passed this ban. I want to enjoy my food without smelling that odor! I would refuse to eat at Applebee's and IHOP because it smelled so much like an ashtray. The seperate rooms do not work! Recently I was staying with my mom and my sister. My mother was on one end of the rather large house with her window open, her clean air machine running full blast and her door shut and I came out of my room clear across this house and could smell the cigarette smoke plainly!! It does not work to put people in seperate rooms, non-smokers can and will still smell it! I say :clap: for the new ban! JMHO! :howdy:


More and more these days we hear as many complaints from "reformed smokers" as we do from everyone else.

Just as a side note, my mother is very allergic to cigarette smoke (allergy tests showed high sensativity), yet I take my parents out to eat on a regular basis and she doesn't have any kind of allergic reaction, not even some sniffles & watery eyes. So yes, we all can smell the smoke, but how many of the toxins can we really inhale when you don't see people with allergies falling apart all the time in restaurants?
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
chuckster said:
So let's see whats next,,,, oh yea trans-fat products. they will be banned. Guess the cheeseburger will be after that followed by all sodas that make people fat. How about salt? Shouldn't that be banned from restaurants also? Kills people also. Eggs,,,, now there is a killer.
Christ, keep the government out of my life. We can find fault with almost everything we eat. Best thing to do is get canned veggies, throw out the veggies and eat the can for the iron it might put in my blood


Comparing various foods to cigarette smoke is a comparison of apple to oraganges. Foods, when eaten as part of a balanced and healthy diet are not harmful. If you eat three or four big juicy triple quarter pounders per day, that’s probably not the most healthy thing to do and, over time, your body will respond accordingly; however, having a big juicy triple quarter pounder once in a while is not harmful to your body. On the other hand, when used as directed, 1st and 2nd hand cigarette smoke is harmful.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
awpitt said:
If you eat three or four big juicy triple quarter pounders per day, that’s probably not the most healthy thing to do and, over time, your body will respond accordingly; however, having a big juicy triple quarter pounder once in a while is not harmful to your body.
You might want to explain that to McDonald's, who no longer "super-size" anything, even their sodas, because of litigation frenzy.

Activists should not be allowed to control the rest of the population. It's wrong and it's unAmerican.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
awpitt said:
If you eat three or four big juicy triple quarter pounders per day, that’s probably not the most healthy thing to do and, over time, your body will respond accordingly; however, having a big juicy triple quarter pounder once in a while is not harmful to your body. On the other hand, when used as directed, 1st and 2nd hand cigarette smoke is harmful.
basing my opinion on non scientific observations throughout the annapolis area, I have come to the conclusion that second had big mac grease is also a threat to ones health.
During my study, I observed that based on the shirts that designate workers from managers, and therefore time in the job, the majority of the workers behind the counter started out as younger cute asian females, but after time due to the constant absorbtion of 2nd hand grease, they became extremely large black females with massive body hair.

In conclusion, I would suggest that one does not frequent the fast food type establishments unless they want to fur up for the cooler months.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
christy217 said:
I totally concur with this, and even more so since being diagnosed with cancer. I have stopped eating out, and that won't change, but I stopped eating out at restaurants, partially, because of the smoke. I once read a scientific study, (wish I could find it now) that was performed prior to NYC enacting this, it was interesting to see how many toxins were in the air of restaurants that were smoking ones, even the ones with non smoking too.

Since I have done my best to stay clear of second hand smoke, my CEA (cancer embryonic antigen) has decreased, and I have to wonder if that was a contributing factor. I would say yes, it was because in smokers a normal CEA can be up to 5.0 and be normal. Mine was 2.0 when I had the cancer, and afterwards stayed around .3, then I stopped going to restaurants and was very cautious around people that do smoke, and it is 0.0 now.

I don't care if people smoke, that's their business, and I have several good friends that are smokers, but I should not have to smell it, it's not a habit they can self-contain, it travels, therefore, for the benefit of others, I am glad this bill passed. :howdy:

I'm sorry to hear of the diagnoses. I hope things go well for you.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
I'm telling you, I'm starting the next litigaion. Power lines. All of that electromagnetic field radiation is bad and I want it banned. Anyone with me?
 

ylexot

Super Genius
awpitt said:
On the other hand, when used as directed, 1st and 2nd hand cigarette smoke is harmful.
Used as directed? Would that be one cigarette a week or 10 packs a day?
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
vraiblonde said:
Excuse me? WHO is trying to get everything they dislike banned?

So you're saying that when our rights are infringed upon, we're supposed to shut up and take it, and not say a word about it? This from you, who freaks about every Muslim that crosses your path?

Who said anything about rights being taken away? Show me, in the Bill of Rights, where it says I have a right to pollute the air around me in a public venue thus causing others to have to inhale it as well. No rights were taken away. No one is trying to get everything they dislike banned. There are some things that people dislike and they can change the channel or read a different book or order a different type of food or go a different restaurant. However, once I choose the restaurant, I should be able to enjoy my meal in the non-smoking section and not be inundated with smoke. The private sector had years of warning that this type of law would be coming and they could’ve prevented it by truly isolating the smoking and nonsmoking areas from one another. They failed to do that and public opinion has changed over the years. Perhaps the gov and legislature has made things more inconvenient for smokers but no rights have been taken away. This legislation had wide public support. Arguments that this ban was enacted against the will of the people are invalid and, if this law is ever challenged in court, the courts will find that there is no Constitutional right to smoke in a restaurant.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
awpitt said:
Show me, in the Bill of Rights, where it says I have a right to pollute the air around me in a public venue thus causing others to have to inhale it as well.
Show me, in the Bill of Rights, where it says that you have the right to pollution-free air :shrug:
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
ylexot said:
Show me, in the Bill of Rights, where it says that you have the right to pollution-free air :shrug:

It doesn't; however, the Clean Air Act of 19 something-something set standards. My point was that there are a lot of assertions within this thread that this new law has infringed on “right” when, in fact, it hasn’t.
 
Back before the Federal Government banned smoking in work places we had a boss that would chain smoke all day and sometimes had two going at once. At least we could retreat to the computer spaces where the air was breathable. I was really glad they passed that law. Oh, he since had half of one lung removed.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
awpitt said:
It doesn't; however, the Clean Air Act of 19 something-something set standards. My point was that there are a lot of assertions within this thread that this new law has infringed on “right” when, in fact, it hasn’t.

In your opinion it may not have infringed on anyone's rights, but it has certainly infringed on one's choices. Before this, you and I had a choice to go to a non-smoking establisment, or a smoking establishment. Now there is no choice. That's the simple fact that you nazi's seem unable to grasp.
 
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