aps45819 said:It's a friggin NOVEL
If you don't understand that novels are works of FICTION, you're an idiot.
Doctrine or dogma?Tonio said:Even though it's fiction, I imagine that some readers might be interested in spiritual ideas that don't conform to orthodox Christian doctrine. If so, why is that a problem?
You think The Matrix is real, don't you?Dondi said:A trailer for The Da Vinci Code states "Seek the Truth". Wouldn't that be a bit misleading to those going to see a work of fiction?
aps45819 said:Doctrine or dogma?
Dondi said:A trailer for The Da Vinci Code states "Seek the Truth". Wouldn't that be a bit misleading to those going to see a work of fiction?
Dondi said:A trailer for The Da Vinci Code states "Seek the Truth". Wouldn't that be a bit misleading to those going to see a work of fiction?
Nickel said:You think The Matrix is real, don't you?
Club'nBabySeals said:Was The X-Files misleading, too?
Tonio said:That show never claimed to be anything more than fiction, but it did have a hardcore base of obsessive fans who took the show way too seriously, with almost a "Star Trek" intensity. I think Mulder and Scully's search for answers resonated with many people.
Club'nBabySeals said:That's true, but I don't see that Dan Brown has ever claimed that The DaVinci Code was anything other than fiction, either...
The point is, if people are going to take this sort of stuff as gospel (pun entirely intended), it's on them. Personally, I think that if someone is going to let their faith be shaken by the hook phrase on a movie commercial, perhaps that's something they need to be reexamining anyway.
I think most girls are born a virgin. Jesus was the only person born from a virgin that was still a virgin. She was no longer a virgin after that according to the Bible. It says Jesus had brothers and sisters by Mary and Joseph.aps45819 said:Doctrine or dogma?
The only person that was supposed to be a virgin is Mary and that was just till the birth of Jesus. The supposition that Joe never banged his wife always seemed a little far fetched to me. That would produce brothers and sisters.
Matthew :13:53-58
53When Jesus had finished these parables, He departed from there.
54He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?
55"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
56"And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"
57And they took offense at Him But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household."
58And He did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.
I think the movie will be a good form of entertainment.Dondi said:Do you believe that "The Da Vinci Code" will be a hinderance to those seeking faith in God or is it just a big harmless hype? Why or why not?
Romans 1:18-32
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
24Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
25For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
31without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
32and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
2 Peter 3:3-9
3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
4and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation."
5For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water,
6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water.
7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
Amen.dustin said:I think the movie will be a good form of entertainment.
Find me a person that says "I have changed my beliefs after seeing THAT movie!" and I will find you an imbecile.