The persecution has begun

[2ndAmendment]

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Not a threat. How Christian would that be of me? Don't get me wrong. I will defend myself and my family. I just think you would find me more "human" IRL. I have fun. I keep it clean. I enjoy the company of friends. Here, I post and I try to present God's word. This is the Religion forum right? I try to live my life the way God would have me live it. IRL, I think it probably comes across a little softer.

 

[kwillia]

Not a threat. How Christian would that be of me? Don't get me wrong. I will defend myself and my family. I just think you would find me more "human" IRL. I have fun. I keep it clean. I enjoy the company of friends. Here, I post and I try to present God's word. This is the Religion forum right? I try to live my life the way God would have me live it. IRL, I think it probably comes across a little softer.

I have spent time with you IRL a time or two and I must say I agree with your statement. IRL you are still true to who you are, but you are not as "overpowering" as you seem on here. Then again... maybe I just haven't had a chance to be with you IRL when you were on a roll...

 

[2ndAmendment]

I have spent time with you IRL a time or two and I must say I agree with your statement. IRL you are still true to who you are, but you are not as "overpowering" as you seem on here. Then again... maybe I just haven't had a chance to be with you IRL when you were on a roll...

I admit there have been times when I would get a little spun up. I think that is fairly rare as God has more of His way in my life.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I am excited to be one of God's children. I had become kind of tepid in my walk, but as I read my Bible I became convicted that God wants His people to be on fire for Him. He doesn't want a nice little cozy fire in the fireplace. He wants to be an all consuming fire in our lives, but I'm getting off into a Thought for the Day that I am working on.

Here is a quick thought to tweek minds. God still exists even if you can't see Him. He still loves you when you are unlovable. God bless each of us with exactly what we need.

 

[2ndAmendment]

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Thank you so much. Have a great day.

 

[2ndAmendment]

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Please o learned one, show me where it says this in the Bible.

Rhetorical. It does not. God even instructed the Israelites to go to war and also used war to chastise the Israelites and other countries. I can quote scripture to back this up. Would you like it?

 

[Kain99]

The persecution continues..... I hate that!

 

[Spoiled]

You are now talking about war as many of the muslims do... Do you ever take a moment to listen to yourself? And find where in the new testiment it says that 2A...

 

[2ndAmendment]

I'm not trying to pick a fight. It is just that war is part of the imperfect human condition. You asked for a quote from the New Testament so here is one by Jesus.

Matthew 24:6-8
6"You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7"For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. 8"But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

There are others.

I don't think war is ever good, but it can be the right thing to do if you understand my meaning. I would rather there were never any wars or murders or thefts or fornication or any of the myriad things that people do to hurt themselves and other people. They are just facts of the human sin nature. I hope that makes it clearer.

 

[2ndAmendment]

It is funny (strange) the amount of flack that I get from people that have been friendly either on the board or in real life when I quote the Bible.

It is OK to be knowledgeable about the Second Amendment, the Constitution, elected officials, computers, and virtually anything else, but let knowledge of the Bible come to the surface and the people that were "friends" become acrid. I become a "Bible thumper" or "Holier than thou" or "sanctimonious" or confrontational or a fool and am laughed at. I just find that amazing.

It is just that I am concerned about the eternal outcome of life as much or more than the political outcome. I love and care about people. I hate the way our country is going, the world for that matter. God help and bless us all.

 

[vraiblonde]

It is funny (strange) the amount of flack that I get from people that have been friendly either on the board or in real life when I quote the Bible.

It's not the quoting the Bible. It's that you're so harsh and condemning about it. If someone isn't doing the God thing exactly your way, you act like they're bad people. Granted, some people are motivated by fear of some wrathful, vengeful God, but most people aren't. I know I have no interest in going to Heaven if it's going to be filled with these intolerant, mean people led by a God that told them to be that way. Might as well be in Hell.

I like you fine IRL because you're fun and you have a good sense of humor, plus you don't preach to me and tell me what a terrible person I am. But on here you come off as, indeed, holier than thou, sanctimonious and confrontational.

It just doesn't seem like the best way to "spread the Good News".

 

[AMP]

What declares one bible over another as "authorized by God"? Seriously, is there some "Inspected by G" sticker that makes one "right" and another "wrong"?

Catholics can only read the ones with the "Imprimatur" stamp on it. I am serious.

 

[Spoiled]

I'm not trying to pick a fight. It is just that war is part of the imperfect human condition. You asked for a quote from the New Testament so here is one by Jesus. There are others.

I don't think war is ever good, but it can be the right thing to do if you understand my meaning. I would rather there were never any wars or murders or thefts or fornication or any of the myriad things that people do to hurt themselves and other people. They are just facts of the human sin nature. I hope that makes it clearer.

That quote doesnt really show anything other than God saying war will happen, it doesnt show that he uses it as a took to condemn or that it is even necessary...

 

[SmallTown]

I like you fine IRL because you're fun and you have a good sense of humor, plus you don't preach to me and tell me what a terrible person I am. But on here you come off as, indeed, holier than thou, sanctimonious and confrontational.

It just doesn't seem like the best way to "spread the Good News".

I don't know him in real life, but I tend to enjoy his posts because he seems to know what he is talking about. The problem I have is his, at times, "unusual" interpretation and how he applies his logic and reasoning to others. Personally, I would prefer that if he wants to quote scripture, just do that and leave out the personal opinions on it. If the person isn't bright enough to understand the passage, trying to spoon feed your interpretation won't really help.

 

[POOH]

But on here you come off as, indeed, holier than thou, sanctimonious and confrontational.

It just doesn't seem like the best way to "spread the Good News".

And thats putting it lightly

 

[vraiblonde]

Personally, I would prefer that if he wants to quote scripture, just do that and leave out the personal opinions on it.

I think 2A absolutely should add his personal opinions and interpretations of Bible passages. If he doesn't, he's no better than some craven liberal who cuts and pastes some inflammatory dreck, then runs instead of discussing it.

Anyway, this wasn't meant to turn into a "pile on". 2A asked a question, I answered it from my POV. He can either give it some thought, or he doesn't have to. Likewise, he can be respectful of others' beliefs, or he doesn't have to.

:shrug:

 

[SmallTown]

I think 2A absolutely should add his personal opinions and interpretations of Bible passages. If he doesn't, he's no better than some craven liberal who cuts and pastes some inflammatory dreck, then runs instead of discussing it.

One difference, scripture (to most) isn't inflammatory. Discussions are fine, saying that 150K people had it coming to them because they aren't christian is something else.

 

[vraiblonde]

saying that 150K people had it coming to them because they aren't christian is something else.

I think that's worthy of discussion as well. In fact, there's not a whole lot that I don't find worthy of discussion.

 

[2ndAmendment]

It's not the quoting the Bible. It's that you're so harsh and condemning about it. If someone isn't doing the God thing exactly your way, you act like they're bad people.
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But on here you come off as, indeed, holier than thou, sanctimonious and confrontational.

It just doesn't seem like the best way to "spread the Good News".

I don't mean to be harsh or holier than thou, sanctimonious and confrontational. As you know even IRL I don't back off. There is definitely a difference in the way people react. I can be just as hard nosed when talking about the Second Amendment and people are not nearly as offended. Often people post that the Bible says something and it is not there. I am going to call them on it. Often people call themselves Christians and then say they don't believe in the Bible. That just does not make any sense at all. I will attempt to be kinder and gentler without sacrificing what I know as Truth.

 

[2ndAmendment]

That quote doesnt really show anything other than God saying war will happen, it doesnt show that he uses it as a took to condemn or that it is even necessary...

You asked for a quote from the New Testament. There are others in Revelation where God sends war on the earth. Most of the direction of God to wage war is found in the Old Testament.

Like I said, I don't think war is a good thing. I do know it does and will happen.