Tech
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Because you didn't retire.
This could get interesting
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LtownTaxpayer
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Actually if you work five years or more for the federal government, you are eligible for retirement. You can apply for it later.
OccamsRazor
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For clarification... once you reach 30+ years, you are entitled to full retirement.
There’s no cash. It’s just the right to work from home until the day you officially retire. That’s it.
It does however, grant TIME for those considering their options. My best friend at work has been working remotely from Pennsylvania because his parents are gravely ill, need assistance and can’t afford to pay someone. I suspect he MIGHT consider it, though he’s not close to retirement age.
It does however, grant TIME for those considering their options. My best friend at work has been working remotely from Pennsylvania because his parents are gravely ill, need assistance and can’t afford to pay someone. I suspect he MIGHT consider it, though he’s not close to retirement age.
Tech
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You must retire on an immediate annuity, no break in service. Also must be enrolled in the insurance for a set time before retiring.
PeoplesElbow
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I'm curious what the patent office is doing, I know two people that left here for the PO because it was 100% work from home wherever you wanted to live.
PeoplesElbow
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Also gives the courts time to block things. I suspect in the end nothing will happen.
If people do get laid off I expect they will eventually be rehired with back pay, that seems to be how things always work.
:fixed:
I guarantee the first Democrat elected back to the office will do just that.
LtownTaxpayer
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From OPM website (https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/fers-information/eligibility/
If you leave Federal service before you meet the age and service requirements for an immediate retirement benefit, you may be eligible for deferred retirement benefits. To be eligible, you must have completed at least 5 years of creditable civilian service.
Minimum Retirement Age - 62 - five years of service (doesn't have to be at the time you apply as long as you don't take an account distribution prior to filing for retirement.
Deferred Retirement
Refers to delayed payment of benefit until criteria are met, as follows:If you leave Federal service before you meet the age and service requirements for an immediate retirement benefit, you may be eligible for deferred retirement benefits. To be eligible, you must have completed at least 5 years of creditable civilian service.
Minimum Retirement Age - 62 - five years of service (doesn't have to be at the time you apply as long as you don't take an account distribution prior to filing for retirement.
Bare-ya-cuda
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling! OMG OMG. Hilarious watching all of you making dire predictions of what’s to come with trumps actions. He could give every citizen a million dollars and you would still find fault.
PeoplesElbow
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That is just getting your pension that you paid into.
MRA +10 years of service with five years of continuous health coverage, MRA can be as low as 57.
LtownTaxpayer
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62 with five years of service gets a pension - TSP is a separate issue.
Sitting around talking in meetings and looking into things is the way a lot of well funded corporate America works. Lots of white collar private industry has people loafing, sleeping in their office during work hours, taking long lunches and if they have the right friends - they stay there as long as they want. I know, saw it. We would LIKE to think that capitalism is an efficiency machines that surgically removes slackers and rewards hard work, but that's so false it's almost laughable.
We don't like to see it in the federal government, because our tax dollars pay them. My experience IS that it is somewhat more common in government. But it is even true LOCALLY - in our schools, in our police force, in our courts - clerks and workers who simply do not work that hard. Because they exist in a system that doesn't reward exceptional service and doesn't penalize sloth - or at least, mediocrity.
I've worked doing delivery - there are drivers that do about half their work. I've worked in a warehouse - and there are workers that are simply NOT in a hurry. I've worked in department stores - and when I had a whole clothing department properly sorted from the mess it was - in an hour - they were very thankful but - they sent me home. I did in an hour what they EXPECTED to take all day. I worked as a home improvement contractor side by side with a crew next door DOING THE SAME JOB - they sat on their asses when the boss left.
I'm generally disgusted by the schools - they have a procedure for doing things which seem to exist solely so they don't really start anything. I've grown weary of conferences with teachers where they set the bar SO LOW it's impossible for them to fail.
Laziness is a universal thing. But if the entire government - ALL OF IT - didn't do their jobs at all you might be astonished at what happens. We're spoiled because ESSENTIAL personnel stay on duty - you know, like air traffic controllers and law enforcement, among others.
From experience - when we have a hiring freeze - and we LOSE people - we have MORE work to do. At yesterday's meeting, an issue came up - do we deliver a product LATE - or an inferior product ON TIME - because we lack what we need to get it done.
We don't like to see it in the federal government, because our tax dollars pay them. My experience IS that it is somewhat more common in government. But it is even true LOCALLY - in our schools, in our police force, in our courts - clerks and workers who simply do not work that hard. Because they exist in a system that doesn't reward exceptional service and doesn't penalize sloth - or at least, mediocrity.
I've worked doing delivery - there are drivers that do about half their work. I've worked in a warehouse - and there are workers that are simply NOT in a hurry. I've worked in department stores - and when I had a whole clothing department properly sorted from the mess it was - in an hour - they were very thankful but - they sent me home. I did in an hour what they EXPECTED to take all day. I worked as a home improvement contractor side by side with a crew next door DOING THE SAME JOB - they sat on their asses when the boss left.
I'm generally disgusted by the schools - they have a procedure for doing things which seem to exist solely so they don't really start anything. I've grown weary of conferences with teachers where they set the bar SO LOW it's impossible for them to fail.
Laziness is a universal thing. But if the entire government - ALL OF IT - didn't do their jobs at all you might be astonished at what happens. We're spoiled because ESSENTIAL personnel stay on duty - you know, like air traffic controllers and law enforcement, among others.
From experience - when we have a hiring freeze - and we LOSE people - we have MORE work to do. At yesterday's meeting, an issue came up - do we deliver a product LATE - or an inferior product ON TIME - because we lack what we need to get it done.
PeoplesElbow
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Who said anything about the TSP? I'm talking about the FERS payments that come out of the total pay, up to 4.3% I think for the most recent hires.
Clem72
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Uh oh Sam, Occam is gonna come tell you to read it again.
(sigh) I hope not. Believe me, a lot MORE people would express interest IF at any point, there was a cash payout. WORKING at home without repercussions and then resigning in nine months doesn't seem like anything people are saying.
It WILL however, give people TIME to set their affairs in order and stay at home. Like I mentioned - I know a FEW who need time. Several hired SINCE the pandemic who work remotely, and they're outstanding at their job.
OccamsRazor
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Nah... not to Sam. He seems to be understanding what is going on.
You and your previous blanket statements however.... Yep.
black dog
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That would have been a good deal back when you could buy 5 for $5.00
Not so good today.
Clem72
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He said the same exact thing I did. You're either a troll or retarded, either way i'm done talking to you. Bye Falicia.