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Bare-ya-cuda

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Why would anyone take a "buy-out" offer from Trump & Musk - two losers notorious for NOT paying people who work for them
It’s not a buyout. Take a breath and stop absorbing everything you hear from crooked politicians and the MSM.
 
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PeoplesElbow

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Oh man, coworker was going to put in his two week notice today but applied for the deferred resignation instead, he starts his new job Feb 17th. Lucky bastard if it works out he is going to make about $80k extra plus benefits.
 

BOP

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You must retire on an immediate annuity, no break in service. Also must be enrolled in the insurance for a set time before retiring.
5 years, as I found out.

I retired 4-ish months before the lockdowns, but my paperwork was held up because even though I had federal health, I hadn't had it long enough to qualify. I'd been on my late wife's insurance up until December the year before she passed, so basically 3 years on my own - with the same insurance company.

I had to go to them and get them to certify that I had indeed been on her insurance for the previous umpteen years in order for Navy HR to allow it to continue on in my retirement. It wasn't hard, but it was time-consuming and kept me from traveling before the lock downs. Which may have saved me from getting stuck somewhere away from home.

2 weeks to flatten the curve my ass.
 

BOP

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I'm with you. The media has described it as a buyout, but I've had severance/buyout packages in the private sector and this is not that. I read the email on the internet. It says if you accept it you can continue to be paid and keep your benefits through the end of the fiscal year, Sept. 30. It says you will be exempted from return to the office. But it also implies you will be required to transfer your responsibilities within your agency. Usually a buyout/severance is a lump sum amount paid to you immediately and you are cut loose immediately.

This looks like it was crafted by Elon Musk. It even used the same subject line, "Fork In The Road", that he used when he did the same thing at X after buying it. It sounds like it's a way to push those who might be on the fence to get off that fence. I still don't think it will result in the amount of resignations they think, but who knows.

I don't know what VSIP/VERA means, but I agree they would actually accomplish more if they set a future date and offered a 1 or two year times salary buyout that was paid immediately upon your termination. Maybe that's next.
 

SamSpade

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. This looks like it was crafted by Elon Musk. It even used the same subject line, "Fork In The Road", that he used when he did the same thing at X after buying it. It sounds like it's a way to push those who might be on the fence to get off that fence. I still don't think it will result in the amount of resignations they think, but who knows.

Part of the reason people don't trust it is - he didn't always deliver what he claimed he would.

There's an article today on RCP saying what I've been saying - this attrition attempt is much more likely to weed out the talent than the dross. The talent is likely immediately re-hireable - the poorer workers not so much. THEY will stay.

I don't know what VSIP/VERA means, but I agree they would actually accomplish more if they set a future date and offered a 1 or two year times salary buyout that was paid immediately upon your termination. Maybe that's next.
Voluntary Early Retirement Authority - for people considering RETIRING with this, even though they're not old enough yet.
 

OccamsRazor

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5 years, as I found out.

I retired 4-ish months before the lockdowns, but my paperwork was held up because even though I had federal health, I hadn't had it long enough to qualify. I'd been on my late wife's insurance up until December the year before she passed, so basically 3 years on my own - with the same insurance company.

I had to go to them and get them to certify that I had indeed been on her insurance for the previous umpteen years in order for Navy HR to allow it to continue on in my retirement. It wasn't hard, but it was time-consuming and kept me from traveling before the lock downs. Which may have saved me from getting stuck somewhere away from home.

2 weeks to flatten the curve my ass.
Always wondered about this process with the GOV....

What if your SO is a GOV employee and say, you are on their insurance (as I have been told you cannot have 2 separate policies if you are both GOV employees) into retirement and then your SO passes? Are you stuck with no health insurance and screwed? Or, does the policy survive their death and you then take custody of it?
 

PeoplesElbow

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Part of the reason people don't trust it is - he didn't always deliver what he claimed he would.
He also has a history of throwing temper tantrums and over promising what he knows he can't deliver.

He made a big deal about firing the entire super charger team only to rehire most back.
 

SamSpade

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He also has a history of throwing temper tantrums and over promising what he knows he can't deliver.

He made a big deal about firing the entire super charger team only to rehire most back.
My wife gets a lot of the critical Trump stuff on her social media - I keep up with a lot of it, so I'm not easily persuaded - but the post made it sound like DOGE came in with a bunch of college age kids and kicked people out of their jobs.

In reference to - USAID - which has shown enormous waste.
 

Toxick

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I just got my letter.
At least it was short and to the point:



In light of our ongoing strategic recalibration and commitment to long-term organizational agility, we are extending a unique and forward-thinking opportunity for team members to proactively chart their own professional course in alignment with the evolving needs of the nation. As we continuously refine our operational ecosystem to enhance efficiencies and drive scalable impact, we recognize that transformational change necessitates both adaptability and decisive action. With that in mind, we are providing an avenue for individuals to take ownership of their transition, ensuring a seamless and dignified departure that aligns with their personal and professional aspirations.

For those who elect not to leverage this proactive pathway, it is important to acknowledge that the organization will continue making data-driven, results-oriented adjustments to optimize our workforce strategy in a manner that ensures sustained value creation. While we remain steadfast in our commitment to excellence, those who do not actively engage with this transitional opportunity may find themselves impacted by future restructuring initiatives that necessitate difficult but necessary decisions. We encourage all stakeholders to assess their alignment with our overarching mission, embrace a future-focused mindset, and make an empowered choice that best positions them for ongoing career success—whether within or beyond our evolving government landscape.

Cheers my brother in Christ,
DJT / ERM
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


Oh man, coworker was going to put in his two week notice today but applied for the deferred resignation instead, he starts his new job Feb 17th. Lucky bastard if it works out he is going to make about $80k extra plus benefits.


And with that, will most likely bump him into the 30+% tax bracket reducing that 80K substantially.

On another note, this action being taken is far far better than the RIF days of old. I don't think most federal employees understand the real generosity being offered to them. Where in the past, determinations were made, they were just laid off, with severance. Thought this is a sort of RIF, it is a voluntary decision, for now, for those that want to take advantage of it. In other words, they are really working hard to make the process as painless as possible.
 

Gilligan

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Ahhhh, but I'm not wrong and you know it. They are grifters at best
Found your pic...

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PeoplesElbow

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For your consideration ...





And with that, will most likely bump him into the 30+% tax bracket reducing that 80K substantially.

On another note, this action being taken is far far better than the RIF days of old. I don't think most federal employees understand the real generosity being offered to them. Where in the past, determinations were made, they were just laid off, with severance. Thought this is a sort of RIF, it is a voluntary decision, for now, for those that want to take advantage of it. In other words, they are really working hard to make the process as painless as possible.
Thing is he was out the door anyway, so it's just free money to him.
 
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