Time to grow up and put your guns away

Xaquin44

New Member
Well, folks, I think he's got us there! :shocked:

I should amend that to say 'in public'

seriously though, that is my reason.

I used to live on rt. 6, and to get into my driveway I'd have to make a left. You'd think people who drive would recognize what a turn signal is. Nearly everyday though I'd see people slam on their brakes and curse me despite my use of a turn signal an slow breaking to turn into my driveway. People like that (and I'd say this happened about 70% of the time -being nice-), the people who can't grasp the events of a simple left turn, should not be allowed to carry a deadly weapon.

not because it isn't their right, but because they are idiots.
 

sommpd

New Member
So you want to pre screen who gets to use the second amendment?

The second amendment says we have a right to bear arms, but it does not restrict goverment from regulating that. We already pre-screen who gets to use the second amendment by not allowing convicted criminals to posses guns although they have done their time, children under the age of eighteen, although they are citizens.

The first amendment garauntees free speech, but you can't go into a crowded movie theater and scream fire!

I don't understand why someone wouldn't want a person who might obtain a gun to go through a background check? I'm not even advocating a check each time. I'm saying that you go through a psychological examination, a background check and possibly a polygraph examination and then obtain a permit to carry a gun where ever you want.

That is how I obtained my ability to carry a gun where ever I like!
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
That says it all...

I WAS RAPED WHEN I WAS 14 YOU AZZ! :smack:.

Having a gun in the house would not have made any difference for me.

Being liberal and/or choosing not to own a gun has jack sheet to do with never having been the victim of a crime.
 

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
I'm a liberal and both of those things happened to me. I still don't own a gun.

You've been robbed AND raped and you choose not to own a gun. OK Some people simply do not like guns no matter what. I can accept that.

Have you taken other precautions for your safety or ensure you're not victimized again?
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
You've been robbed AND raped and you choose not to own a gun. OK Some people simply do not like guns no matter what. I can accept that.

Have you taken other precautions for your safety or ensure you're not victimized again?

She stopped shaving, bathing, walks around in rags and drives a POS car? :shrug:
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
You've been robbed AND raped and you choose not to own a gun. OK Some people simply do not like guns no matter what. I can accept that.

Have you taken other precautions for your safety or ensure you're not victimized again?

Read my other post. I've had 20 years to learn how not to be a target. Mine was a crime of opportunity. Some high on whatever guy knocked on my front door by mistake and then just decided to grab me. I would not have had an opportunity to even grab a gun if it had been in the house.

Most victims are attacked by aquaitances/dates, not random burglars in the night. In fact- most people that are murdered are killed by people they know. What good would it do for me to have a gun around? Unless The CRE Serial Killer is on the loose I don't really have a need for one. And yes, I have handled firearms before.

The robbery was while I was working as a store clerk (although I was not at the register that was hit). We did as the company had trained us. No one was hurt. Gun would not have changed the outcome.
 

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
Read my other post.

I've seen nothing in any of your posts that would indicate you've taken any steps at all to ensure your safety. That's truly a shame.

Pepper spray, pocket knife, trained protection dog, karate classes... Hell just general physical fitness? Anything at all that might be remotely helpful in an emergency???
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
I've seen nothing in any of your posts that would indicate you've taken any steps at all to ensure your safety. That's truly a shame.

Pepper spray, pocket knife, trained protection dog, karate classes... Hell just general physical fitness? Anything at all that might be remotely helpful in an emergency???

Then you need to take a reading comprehension course. I simply do not allow myself to be an easy target. The most effective self defense weapons you have are your eyes, ears, and feet.

I have chosen for personal reasons not to own a gun. I do not feel I am sitting duck without one.
 

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
I'm a liberal and both of those things happened to me. I still don't own a gun.

I WAS RAPED WHEN I WAS 14 YOU AZZ! :smack:.

Having a gun in the house would not have made any difference for me.

Being liberal and/or choosing not to own a gun has jack sheet to do with never having been the victim of a crime.

Thank you.

Don't see anything in this thread. Maybe someplace else?:shrug:


Then you need to take a reading comprehension course. I simply do not allow myself to be an easy target. The most effective self defense weapons you have are your eyes, ears, and feet.

I have chosen for personal reasons not to own a gun. I do not feel I am sitting duck without one.

Peace, smelly hippy chick!!! I'm not criticizing your choice. Just curious if you really DO take precautions or (like most others) simply pay lip service.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
http://forums.somd.com/news-current...row-up-put-your-guns-away-20.html#post3038538

"20 years learning how not to be a target" was not enough of an explanation?

Here I am, someone who was victimized at a young age, and I choose not to have a gun. I was not even old enough to get a learners permit let alone own a gun when it happened. A gun in the house would have made not a bit of difference to me then and I do not feel it would provide any extra security for me now. If I lived in the 'hood or had a crazy ex stalking me maybe it would. But I am in none of those situations. Simple avoidance and not making myself an easy mark are my best protection.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
http://forums.somd.com/news-current...row-up-put-your-guns-away-20.html#post3038538

"20 years learning how not to be a target" was not enough of an explanation?

Here I am, someone who was victimized at a young age, and I choose not to have a gun. I was not even old enough to get a learners permit let alone own a gun when it happened. A gun in the house would have made not a bit of difference to me then and I do not feel it would provide any extra security for me now. If I lived in the 'hood or had a crazy ex stalking me maybe it would. But I am in none of those situations. Simple avoidance and not making myself an easy mark are my best protection.

Stating the same crap over and over isn't explaining anything. As you said, reading comprehension. What are you doing? Or if you really need it spoonfed: How are you making yourself "not an easy target?"
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
Stating the same crap over and over isn't explaining anything. As you said, reading comprehension. What are you doing? Or if you really need it spoonfed: How are you making yourself "not an easy target?"

Maybe you need the answer spoonfed to you? Here, click away!

crime safety tips - Yahoo! Search Results

I said "your eyes, ears, and feet" are your best protection.

Why do I need to type it all out in minute detail to justify my not having a weapon?

I was a victim of violent crime years ago.

I choose not to own a gun.

Somehow that makes me irresponsible in regards to my own safety?

What a load of crap!
 
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Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Maybe you need the answer spoonfed to you? Here, click away!

crime safety tips - Yahoo! Search Results

I said "your eyes, ears, and feet" are your best protection.

Why do I need to type it all out in minute detail to justify my not having a weapon?

I was a victim of violent crime years ago.

I choose not to own a gun.

Somehow that makes me irresponsible in regards to my own safety?

What a load of crap!

:poorbaby: It's OK. We just chalk it up to more proof that logic and reason aren't your strong suits.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Maybe you need the answer spoonfed to you?

I said "your eyes, ears, and feet" are your best protection.

Why do I need to type it all out in minute detail to justify my not having a weapon?

I was a victim of violent crime years ago.

I choose not to own a gun.

Somehow that makes me irresponsible in regards to my own safety?

What a load of crap!

duh vegmom.

you need an exosuit to be safe in this world.

If you aren't wearing this, you're practicaly asking for trouble.

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/images/powerloader.jpg
 

Xaquin44

New Member
:poorbaby: It's OK. We just chalk it up to more proof that logic and reason aren't your strong suits.

are you prepared for nuclear winter?

an airplane falling on your car while you are driving it?

lemmings devouring you arms?

there are billions and billions of people on the planet that never have to deal with this, and while that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be prepared or even wary whilst walking down a dark ally in downtown gotham, it doesn't mean that billions of people desperatly need a loaded handgun.

She already told us about her particular encounters and the fact that having a gun wouldn't have helped her in either situation.

edit: belittling her won't change facts, but it does make you look like a jerk.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
:poorbaby: It's OK. We just chalk it up to more proof that logic and reason aren't your strong suits.

So it's illogical for someone who has experienced a violent crime to not own a gun?

Is it unreasonable for me to feel safe in my own home sans a cache of firearms?

To even set foot outside without a CCW permit?

To dare think my brain and 5 senses will keep me safe 99.9% of the time?
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Now...

there are billions and billions of people on the planet that never have to deal with this,

...we're getting carried away. There are billions and billions who never have to deal with the burden and responsibilities of all kinds of freedoms.
 
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