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Something's missing in the Mar-a-Lago coverage
By Chet RichardsI am someone who has held a TS/SCI (Top Secret — Special Comparted Information) security clearance. Moreover, I have had a facility clearance for my home so that I could handle classified information there. Having had that experience, I get more than a little annoyed at the speculative misinformation that all parties in the Mar-a-Lago affair are spreading around. Granted, my security experience was before my retirement a decade ago, but I doubt much has changed since then.
I make three points. The first is that the Justice Department is blowing smoke. They are either completely incompetent or deliberately abusing their authority by lying to the court. The second point is that the investigative media (including Fox News) have not done their homework and have not found out how the security system actually works. The third point illustrates the first. In no legal sense is Donald Trump guilty of anything. This is because, as a former president, he has both a TS/SCI personal clearance and the same level of facility clearances for his various locations.
To complete the circle, the first two points follow from the third: the Justice Department has charged Donald Trump with violating security regulations by having inappropriate classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. Well, as president, Trump's home, and probably everywhere he may reside or work, automatically has a TS/SCI facility clearance. And so his home is appropriate for the safekeeping of classified documents.
I note that Mar-a-Lago is under 24/7 protection by the Secret Service. This automatically meets the requirements for the safety of a very high-level facility clearance. Moreover, an extra degree of protection was installed, at the government's request, when a lock was put on the door where the documents were stored. The government cannot then legitimately claim that those documents were improperly secured.
HemiHauler
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He must've been informed the indictment is imminent. He's losing his mind this week and it's only Monday. Be a shame if his frenzy induced an MI.
Bare-ya-cuda
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And you know an indictment is imminent how?
HemiHauler
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Before FBI seized privileged Trump memos, DOJ filter teams already tainted by legal controversy
Distrust among defense lawyers — including the firm that once employed Hunter Biden — about the honor system that federal law enforcement claims to use to protect privileged evidence has led to a pending writ of certiorari asking the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on the legality of such teams.
The filter/taint team procedure "needlessly and harmfully exposes assertedly privileged communications to the government's eyes," lawyers for defendant Mordechai Korf and others argue in asking the nation's nine justices to consider the case. "It undermines essential protections for the adversary system. And it jeopardizes the confidentiality needed for the applicable privileges to serve their vital purposes."
File 20220418134323040_Petition for Writ of Certiorari.pdf
While the justices weigh whether to take the Korf case, at least three other federals appeals courts have already raised concerns about the teams in other cases.
And the Securities and Exchange Commission — which often investigates financial crimes alongside the FBI — recently admitted to significant breaches in two cases where its computer systems mistakenly allowed criminal investigators to have access to potentially privileged documents from its administrative regulatory side. The agency blamed the mistakes on a "control deficiency."
"We deeply regret that the Commission's systems lacked sufficient safeguards surrounding access to Adjudication memoranda," the agency said in a rare statement of apology. "We have great faith in the professionalism of all of our staff and will work to ensure that, going forward, we better protect the separation of adjudicatory work-product within our system for administrative adjudications, including by enhancing our systems for controlling access to Adjudication memoranda. We take this lapse in controls very seriously and are working hard to make sure nothing like it happens again."
CPUSA
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Your 8 different MPDs on here?Unnamed sources told me.
Or were these different voices in your head?...
Bare-ya-cuda
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Identifying as an FBI agent are you? You don’t know shet. Spewing propaganda and lies as usual.Unnamed sources told me.
HemiHauler
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Bare-ya-cuda
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Whoosh, the sound BS flying out of your mouth makes.
The warrant in this case was published—what was it like? Read the full search warrant here. Well, as to the “premises to be searched,” they encompassed the former President’s office, “all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate.” (emphasis supplied)
The “property to be seized,” apart from “all physical documents and records” constituting evidence or fruits of enumerated crimes, included, inter alia, “any physical documents with classification markings,” information, “including communications in any form” regarding retrieval or storage of national defense information, “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021 [Trump’s entire term in office!]” (emphasis supplied), and any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of documents.
Would Jonah call that a particular description of the place to be searched and the things to be seized? Did this warrant conform to the strictures of the Fourth Amendment? This was a general warrant, very nearly authorizing a search of someone’s entire dwelling and the carting off of any papers the law enforcement officers saw fit to take. It is something that no American judge should ever have signed.
The second criterion of lawfulness is the veracity and sufficiency of the affidavit that the Justice Department submitted to the court in its application for a warrant. It goes a bit far to say that the affidavit has now been published (since Jonah’s piece). The principal author of what was released appears to be the redaction function in the Justice Department’s computer. It is impossible to judge the veracity of the affidavit (occasionally a problem in such submissions during the Trump years). As the Wall Street Journal observes, however (The Mar-a-Lago Affidavit: Is That All There Is?), what remains visible in the affidavit gives no indication that any grave matter of national security justified this extraordinary action against a former president.
Finally, there is the point of substantive law illuminated by David Rivkin and Lee Casey, former Justice Department and White House Counsel’s office attorneys, in the Wall Street Journal (WSJ Op-ed: 'No Legal Basis' for Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant). The Presidential Records Act of 1978 gave the President a legal right to the papers seized. We have not the space here for further inquiry into the matter but suffice it to say that Jonah might wish to read a little more before pronouncing the search lawful.
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The “property to be seized,” apart from “all physical documents and records” constituting evidence or fruits of enumerated crimes, included, inter alia, “any physical documents with classification markings,” information, “including communications in any form” regarding retrieval or storage of national defense information, “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021 [Trump’s entire term in office!]” (emphasis supplied), and any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of documents.
Would Jonah call that a particular description of the place to be searched and the things to be seized? Did this warrant conform to the strictures of the Fourth Amendment? This was a general warrant, very nearly authorizing a search of someone’s entire dwelling and the carting off of any papers the law enforcement officers saw fit to take. It is something that no American judge should ever have signed.
The second criterion of lawfulness is the veracity and sufficiency of the affidavit that the Justice Department submitted to the court in its application for a warrant. It goes a bit far to say that the affidavit has now been published (since Jonah’s piece). The principal author of what was released appears to be the redaction function in the Justice Department’s computer. It is impossible to judge the veracity of the affidavit (occasionally a problem in such submissions during the Trump years). As the Wall Street Journal observes, however (The Mar-a-Lago Affidavit: Is That All There Is?), what remains visible in the affidavit gives no indication that any grave matter of national security justified this extraordinary action against a former president.
Finally, there is the point of substantive law illuminated by David Rivkin and Lee Casey, former Justice Department and White House Counsel’s office attorneys, in the Wall Street Journal (WSJ Op-ed: 'No Legal Basis' for Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant). The Presidential Records Act of 1978 gave the President a legal right to the papers seized. We have not the space here for further inquiry into the matter but suffice it to say that Jonah might wish to read a little more before pronouncing the search lawful.
What Jonah Goldberg gets wrong on the Mar-a-Lago raid
It once again has become necessary that Mr. Jonah Goldberg, scholar, humorist, rationalist, and exemplar of moral consistency, bring to heel a rabidly partisan right-winger (Yearning for a Banana Republic). The burden is thrust upon him by...
Trump Parts Hudson River Leading Exodus Of New York Republicans To Florida
At the last possible moment, Trump humbly bowed his head and prayed, "O God in heaven! Please allow me to perform the most tremendous miracle of all time, that men may praise my name forever and say, 'That Trump did such good miracles; everyone says so!'" At these words, the waters of the Hudson parted, and Trump led his people across on dry land, while all the armies of the governor were swallowed up, and cried a great cry, and the people did rejoice, and there was feasting on fattened calfs, gorilla meat, and McDonald's.
Sadly, they were fated to wander for 40 years in Jersey.
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At the last possible moment, Trump humbly bowed his head and prayed, "O God in heaven! Please allow me to perform the most tremendous miracle of all time, that men may praise my name forever and say, 'That Trump did such good miracles; everyone says so!'" At these words, the waters of the Hudson parted, and Trump led his people across on dry land, while all the armies of the governor were swallowed up, and cried a great cry, and the people did rejoice, and there was feasting on fattened calfs, gorilla meat, and McDonald's.
Sadly, they were fated to wander for 40 years in Jersey.
Trump Parts Hudson River Leading Exodus Of New York Republicans To Florida
NEW YORK, NY — New York Governor Kathy Hochul recently informed New York Republicans that they're not welcome in her state. But lo, a chosen one of burnt papaya hue, Donald Trump, approached her and demanded that she let his people go. The Republicans' punishments then worsened, with Hochul...
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They don't call it the Pine Barrens for nothing.Trump Parts Hudson River Leading Exodus Of New York Republicans To Florida
At the last possible moment, Trump humbly bowed his head and prayed, "O God in heaven! Please allow me to perform the most tremendous miracle of all time, that men may praise my name forever and say, 'That Trump did such good miracles; everyone says so!'" At these words, the waters of the Hudson parted, and Trump led his people across on dry land, while all the armies of the governor were swallowed up, and cried a great cry, and the people did rejoice, and there was feasting on fattened calfs, gorilla meat, and McDonald's.
Sadly, they were fated to wander for 40 years in Jersey.
Trump Parts Hudson River Leading Exodus Of New York Republicans To Florida
NEW YORK, NY — New York Governor Kathy Hochul recently informed New York Republicans that they're not welcome in her state. But lo, a chosen one of burnt papaya hue, Donald Trump, approached her and demanded that she let his people go. The Republicans' punishments then worsened, with Hochul...
Trump Legal Team Responds to Obstruction Accusations
Justice, FBI, Mar-A-Lago Raid, Donald Trump, Justice DepartmentAllSides Summary
On Wednesday, former President Donald Trump's legal team filed a response to the Justice Department's 36-page court filing, in which the department said classified documents were "likely concealed and removed" at Mar-a-Lago. Trump's lawyers are claiming that the "unchecked investigators" at the Justice Department cannot be trusted to conduct a fair investigation, saying that prosecutors will "impugn, leak and publicize" details of its investigation. The legal team for Trump is asking U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon to appoint a special master to review the materials seized by the FBI after the August 8th raid at Mar-a-Lago. The hearing is set for Thursday, and the judge has said that she is inclined to appoint a special master.At issue is the question of whether or not the former president has the right of executive privilege regarding some of the seized documents, as well as the question of attorney-client privilege. An FBI team has already looked over the documents, and has determined that a limited number of them are protected by attorney-client privilege. Meanwhile, some legal experts have said that executive privilege only exists over disputes between different branches of government; in this case, only the Executive Branch is involved.
Sources from across the political spectrum prominently covered the Trump legal team's response to the accusation of obstruction by the Justice Departmnet.