US Marines killed innocent women and children

[Penn]

So Far, So Good! Troops Cleared in One Incident

Troops cleared in one Iraq incident

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military said Saturday that it had found no wrongdoing by American troops accused of intentionally killing civilians during a raid in a village north of Baghdad that left up to 13 Iraqis dead.

 

[dustin]

Our marine code forbids the killing of the innocent, so why are you defending it? These women and children did nothing to us and were not a danger to anyone. Thats against our laws and international law. Like it or not buddy. Watching your buddy get blown up does not give you the right to go shoot some innocent children for revenge. If they did kill innocent children then they are a discrace to America and to the marines. There is no excuse for murdering innocent people.

Stop worrying about it and move on dude.

It's not like the Defense Dept is going to listen to you or anyone else that has issues with it anyways.

IF any wrongdoing has taken place you can bet your petticoat the military will take care of their own.

Remember this is the military that will kick you out for failing a couple physical requirements tests, justice will be served were it needs to be.

 

[Larry Gude]

for 1st taboo and other...

...squeemish people who demand perfection unless their ox is being gored;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201327.html

Get over it. Or don't.

The Saddams of the world thank you and the Hitlers, Mussolinis and Tojos of the world wonder where you were when they needed you.

 

[vraiblonde]

Abbo keeps talking about disgrace, but I am more disgraced and embarrassed by people who feel sympathy and pity toward our enemies, yet vilify our soldiers and President.

There are a lot of great lessons we should have learned from WWII, but very few seem to have learned them, least of all our elected officials. "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - Patton said that. And it's interesting to note that modern hippies not only don't understand that, but they actually seem to WANT the US to lose this war.

They're perfectly okay with Saddam and his sons populating the rape rooms and lopping off ears. But what they will not tolerate is using any means necessary to get rid of these people. Palestinian suicide bomber blows up a grocery store full of civilians? Boo hoo - they're at their last resort But make a terrorist wear a pair of panties on their head and it's the end of the world and American heads must roll.

You people are crazy.

 

[frstabbo]

You would not either, until you personally had to pick up the pieces of a friend, who you'd shared hardships, hopes and beers with, basically a part of your life, and put them quickly into a plastic bag. You get no time to reflect, or grieve, or you might find yourself in a bag next to them. I'm not saying these lads are innocent...(only a court of law can say they are guilty, and they do deserve a day in court, don't they? Or is that only for folks like OJ, Baretta, and Ken Lay?)

Some of the other countries do sweep this under the rug; but thankfully, ours is a reflective nation, and some of our people do have the moral courage to stand up for what is right and question things. How do you think we got the information in the first place? A Marine, with moral courage, did bring this to someone's attention. You should be applauding that Marine, who did witness the carnage personally, who was able to hold on to his sense of humanity, and still had the guts to go against superior NCO's and Officers, and report his findings.

I find it ironic you bring up Hitler ....99.9% of the population in Iraq (or Iran, or Syria, or damn near anywhere else in the ME except for Israel....)would tell you that Hitler didn't do enough. And I'll bet you didn't even think about the idea that the Iraqi's (Sunni and Shiite) are commiting more atrocities against their fellow citizens, that the entire coalition has.

You should read the reports as it was not a marine who broke this story. As far as sweeping these incidents under the rug, well this one was almost there.

I do have good news though. Before everyone goes on and tells me "I told you so", I must report that the "innocent" little girl who survived the shooting told investigators that she knew of the plot to kill marines. It seems that these people were not as innocent as I had suspected. I am sincerely sorry to anyone I may have offended. Beers on me..
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/3/111600.shtml

 

[tomchamp]

So you went from a "Times" story to "Newsmax".

 

[vraiblonde]

I do have good news though. Before everyone goes on and tells me "I told you so", I must report that the "innocent" little girl who survived the shooting told investigators that she knew of the plot to kill marines. It seems that these people were not as innocent as I had suspected. I am sincerely sorry to anyone I may have offended. Beers on me..
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/3/111600.shtml

I'll have a Pete's Wicked Strawberry Blonde

 

[Ken King]

You should read the reports as it was not a marine who broke this story. As far as sweeping these incidents under the rug, well this one was almost there.

I do have good news though. Before everyone goes on and tells me "I told you so", I must report that the "innocent" little girl who survived the shooting told investigators that she knew of the plot to kill marines. It seems that these people were not as innocent as I had suspected. I am sincerely sorry to anyone I may have offended. Beers on me..
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/3/111600.shtml

I'll bring the salt and ketchup for the crow, I've found that it helps getting it down.

 

[RangerJohn]

You should read the reports as it was not a marine who broke this story. As far as sweeping these incidents under the rug, well this one was almost there.

I do have good news though. Before everyone goes on and tells me "I told you so", I must report that the "innocent" little girl who survived the shooting told investigators that she knew of the plot to kill marines. It seems that these people were not as innocent as I had suspected. I am sincerely sorry to anyone I may have offended. Beers on me..
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/3/111600.shtml

I doubt that the newsie was there, or else we'd have fought over this last Christmas instead of after Memorial Day. But I'll give you that the newsperson did write the story..but it was a Marine that took it up his chain of command. But I also don't doubt that those who were in command at the time, wouldn't try to cover up a potential mistake.

It is also good of you to recheck the facts as you understood them, and share your findings. I do hope that this frank and open discussion has been helpful for you, as well as the rest of us.

Our service members are doing incredible work over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, countries with no experience in participatory democracy, and trying to do in two years, what it took us 200 to do.

 

[PJay]

http://www.angelfire.com/music3/time/military.html

 

[frstabbo]

I doubt that the newsie was there, or else we'd have fought over this last Christmas instead of after Memorial Day. But I'll give you that the newsperson did write the story..but it was a Marine that took it up his chain of command. But I also don't doubt that those who were in command at the time, wouldn't try to cover up a potential mistake.

It is also good of you to recheck the facts as you understood them, and share your findings. I do hope that this frank and open discussion has been helpful for you, as well as the rest of us.

Our service members are doing incredible work over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, countries with no experience in participatory democracy, and trying to do in two years, what it took us 200 to do.

The marines may still be found guilty of murder, except I will be among those who would be surprised. It is sad that innocent people are dying in this war..
If you have a strong stomach, check this movie made on Iraq. www.vivairaq.com
cheers..

 

[tomchamp]

The marines may still be found guilty of murder, except I will be among those who would be surprised. It is sad that innocent people are dying in this war..
If you have a strong stomach, check this movie made on Iraq. www.vivairaq.com
cheers..

Watch this and STFU.
http://www.jimlynch.com/911/america-attacked3.html

 

[ylexot]

Watch any of the movies from here:
www.grouchymedia.com

 

[frstabbo]

Watch this and STFU.
http://www.jimlynch.com/911/america-attacked3.html

Im sorry if the realities of war offended you.

 

[tomchamp]

Do you have any pre-war vidoes..Like when Saddam was murdering his own people? Invading Kuwait? Dropping chemical weapons on his own people? Those are hard to find.

 

[dustin]

It is sad that innocent people are dying in this war..
If you have a strong stomach, check this movie made on Iraq. www.vivairaq.com
cheers..

Yeah that's what happens in war.

 

[frstabbo]

Do you have any pre-war vidoes..Like when Saddam was murdering his own people? Invading Kuwait? Dropping chemical weapons on his own people? Those are hard to find.

those are only available at your local variety store...

 

[Mikeinsmd]

Im sorry if the realities of war offended you.

YOU, my a s s hole are the one offended by the realities of war!!!

Did YOU not notice that THEY are the ones who started this crap??? If our marines wipe out a family or two, forgive me if I save my tears for the thousands who perished when these lunatics decided to fly planes into buildings.

Second thought, I don't want your forgiveness, what I really want is for YOUR loved ones to have their head sawed off by a serrated knife while they are still fully conscience and aware.

BTW, I'll be the one laughing in the background while you squeal you effing moron!!

 

[itsbob]

Our marine code forbids the killing of the innocent, so why are you defending it? These women and children did nothing to us and were not a danger to anyone. Thats against our laws and international law. Like it or not buddy. Watching your buddy get blown up does not give you the right to go shoot some innocent children for revenge. If they did kill innocent children then they are a discrace to America and to the marines. There is no excuse for murdering innocent people.

The innocent die in every war.. we bombed the bejeezus out of the innocent in WWII... we firebombed whole cities full of women and children and innocent civilians, where we went wrong was trying to clean up war.. smart weapons that would blow up the ONE building you were trying to hit without any collateral damage.. now the public thinks if ONE civilian gets killed in a war zone it's an atrocity.. Hussein knew this, and tried (with a little success) to use it against us.. EVERY single civilain woman or child that was hurt or killed during the first Gulf War he had the press all over..

War is war.. at it's best it's an atrocity..

 

[frstabbo]

YOU, my a s s hole are the one offended by the realities of war!!!

Did YOU not notice that THEY are the ones who started this crap??? If our marines wipe out a family or two, forgive me if I save my tears for the thousands who perished when these lunatics decided to fly planes into buildings.

Second thought, I don't want your forgiveness, what I really want is for YOUR loved ones to have their head sawed off by a serrated knife while they are still fully conscience and aware.

BTW, I'll be the one laughing in the background while you squeal you effing moron!!

You need a history lesson . We invaded Iraq because we thought he had wmd. Where the F#$# are they? Turns out he was just one of those crackpot dictators. I will agreee and say the world is a better place without saddam but remember, Iraqis didnt fly the planes in 911. If that were the case, we would have invaded sep 12/01. The United States' official position was that Iraq illegally possessed "weapons of mass destruction" in violation of UN Security Council Resolution 1441 and had to be disarmed by force. WTF does this have to do with 911?