What qualifies Police Officers to drive fast?

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oldnavy

Guest
not only retarded...

Mikeinsmd said:
Richard Cranium is retarded. :yay:

but also a chicken chit who calls people liars and does not have the ballz to back it up.
 

Oz

You're all F'in Mad...
Hey - if a police officer wants to speed, then go for it. All jobs have perks! If my job required me to wear armor to protect myself, I don't think I'd be all that worried about driving too fast? :confused:
 

protectmd

New Member
Let me explain a few things here....

First off, I have gone through the Maryland Fire and Rescue Institute version of the Emergency Vehicle Operators Course. I have also taken evasive and combat type driving courses in the military.

Police regardless cannot do just whatever they want. They must exercise "due regard" for the law, whether they are running a red light or speeding to a call. For example, I promise you this much. If a cop was to hit and kill someone and it was to be determined that he was not en route to a call, or just screwing around, he would be held accountable, most likely fired and be at risk for a civil lawsuit. They cannot just screw around on the highways just because they can.

As far as the 1 hand on the wheel thing, I dunno. Get it on video tape honestly. Thats the only thing I can say. If you video tape them, (I am a firm believer in dash cams in all cars) then you can catch them. Otherwise its your word against theirs. And you will get nowhere. You must prove they are out of control (im guessing thats where your going with this).

They are responsible to the laws as well. I've heard of instances where state police have pulled over charles county vehicles and written tickets before. I've seen cops who have pulled over knuckleheads with FOP plates before, whether a ticket came out of it, idk, but I do know they will make the stop. I have seen them stop emergency vehicles.

The whole good ole boys club, will eventually catch up to them or anyone for that matter. Racial profiling is a royal pain and will get you in the washington post.

Im not saying there isn't a problem, however what I will say is that it just might take a horrible accident to bring them back to earth again and put them off of their high horse to realize that they can be held liable in civil court, and money talks, the state will not protect you if you were in the wrong.

Not to mention some of the police chases are out of control. Chasing motorcycles you know a crown vic can't possibly catch? Chasing someone down for simply speeding putting lives at risk for many miles at high speeds and the person wasn't even a violent felon? There is a case in the supreme court right now recently where the police rammed a guy and paralyzed him... they are wondering if deadly force is authorized just because they are chasing a car? Not to mention, they are caught up in the moment (could have used a radio or helicopter support, instead of taking matters into their own adrenaline pumped hands, -chase down the animals and kill them mentality, was it worth the risk?)

Frankly, if you have a problem with it... there a few things you can do.

Many department websites have comment suggestion area's. E-mail them. Let them know that you are concerned and want something done.

Contact the sheriff/colonel of the MSP/Chief of police

Contact your lawmakers. Express concern about the problem.

Contact the Maryland Attorney General. He would be upset to find out that the people put there to enforce the law are breaking it in their free time without sufficient reason.

Call 911. Explain to the dispatcher that you were passed at a high rate of speed by a police car with no lights, and that you are voicing your concern for public safety. 911 tapes are recorded, and if he's speeding to a donut shop, kills someone along the way, it can be used as evidence in court that you called 911 about the problem.

311 is non emergencies for the state of maryland. Its the New Governors hotline for problems citizens are having... If enough complain, there will be change.

Just some suggestions. Im not against police, but I am against those who abuse their power no matter what position they are in, whether its a police officer, politician, government official etc.... and I will make my statement demanding they be held accountable.
 
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chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
protectmd said:
Let me explain a few things here....

First off, I have gone through the Maryland Fire and Rescue Institute version of the Emergency Vehicle Operators Course. I have also taken evasive and combat type driving courses in the military.

Police regardless cannot do just whatever they want. They must exercise "due regard" for the law, whether they are running a red light or speeding to a call. For example, I promise you this much. If a cop was to hit and kill someone and it was to be determined that he was not en route to a call, or just screwing around, he would be held accountable, most likely fired and be at risk for a civil lawsuit. They cannot just screw around on the highways just because they can.

As far as the 1 hand on the wheel thing, I dunno. Get it on video tape honestly. Thats the only thing I can say. If you video tape them, (I am a firm believer in dash cams in all cars) then you can catch them. Otherwise its your word against theirs. And you will get nowhere. You must prove they are out of control (im guessing thats where your going with this).

They are responsible to the laws as well. I've heard of instances where state police have pulled over charles county vehicles and written tickets before. I've seen cops who have pulled over knuckleheads with FOP plates before, whether a ticket came out of it, idk, but I do know they will make the stop. I have seen them stop emergency vehicles.

The whole good ole boys club, will eventually catch up to them or anyone for that matter. Racial profiling is a royal pain and will get you in the washington post.

Im not saying there isn't a problem, however what I will say is that it just might take a horrible accident to bring them back to earth again and put them off of their high horse to realize that they can be held liable in civil court, and money talks, the state will not protect you if you were in the wrong.

Not to mention some of the police chases are out of control. Chasing motorcycles you know a crown vic can't possibly catch? Chasing someone down for simply speeding putting lives at risk for many miles at high speeds and the person wasn't even a violent felon? There is a case in the supreme court right now recently where the police rammed a guy and paralyzed him... they are wondering if deadly force is authorized just because they are chasing a car? Not to mention, they are caught up in the moment (could have used a radio or helicopter support, instead of taking matters into their own adrenaline pumped hands, -chase down the animals and kill them mentality, was it worth the risk?)

Frankly, if you have a problem with it... there a few things you can do.

Many department websites have comment suggestion area's. E-mail them. Let them know that you are concerned and want something done.

Contact the sheriff/colonel of the MSP/Chief of police

Contact your lawmakers. Express concern about the problem.

Contact the Maryland Attorney General. He would be upset to find out that the people put there to enforce the law are breaking it in their free time without sufficient reason.

Call 911. Explain to the dispatcher that you were passed at a high rate of speed by a police car with no lights, and that you are voicing your concern for public safety. 911 tapes are recorded, and if he's speeding to a donut shop, kills someone along the way, it can be used as evidence in court that you called 911 about the problem.

311 is non emergencies for the state of maryland. Its the New Governors hotline for problems citizens are having... If enough complain, there will be change.

Just some suggestions. Im not against police, but I am against those who abuse their power no matter what position they are in, whether its a police officer, politician, government official etc.... and I will make my statement demanding they be held accountable.

Well said... :yay:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
protectmd said:
Let me explain a few things here....
...

Not to mention some of the police chases are out of control. Chasing motorcycles you know a crown vic can't possibly catch? Chasing someone down for simply speeding putting lives at risk for many miles at high speeds and the person wasn't even a violent felon? There is a case in the supreme court right now recently where the police rammed a guy and paralyzed him... they are wondering if deadly force is authorized just because they are chasing a car? Not to mention, they are caught up in the moment (could have used a radio or helicopter support, instead of taking matters into their own adrenaline pumped hands, -chase down the animals and kill them mentality, was it worth the risk?)

I agreed with most of what you said before and after this. I do think that it should be considered normal and okay for a cop to do what's necessary to stop even speeders. How was Tim McVeigh caught? How are a huge percentage of really bad guys caught? For the most part, there's a reason they're not stopping. THEY know it's just speeding, too, right? So, unless there's a damned good reason to run away, they would just stop and take their small dose of medicine. Radios and helicopters could help if there's something long and drawn out, and would probably be used in addition to finding some way to stop an evader, but action should probably have to be taken quickly in many circumstances. :coffee:
 

General Lee

Well-Known Member
Driving with one hand on the steering wheel doesn't mean the officer was not in complete control of the vehicle nor is unable to be control it....... Come on get real :rolleyes:
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
General Lee said:
Driving with one hand on the steering wheel doesn't mean the officer was not in complete control of the vehicle nor is unable to be control it....... Come on get real :rolleyes:
But ... they can pull you over if you do not have two hands on the wheel.
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
Im going to start going down hollywood/leonardtown rd at night with my camcorder. Ive seen them doing in excess of 80 maybe even closer to 100. I know i cant do much without a plate number or car number but i can show it to the sheriffs office. It pisses me off cause ive been pulled over twice on that road once for swerving when i was driving my old car that had no struts and messed up steering. And the other time as the same car but the cop (trp. davis) pulled me over for not using my turn signal procedes to tell me i have been smoking weed, which i wasnt, then goes to wanting to search my car cause he thought i was being suspicious. So i tell him i had firecrackers in the car and lets me go. Oh and davis was on the first one to.

But they do he same thing on mcintosh and the second i do 40 mph i get a damn ticket they have been flying by doing at least twice the speed limit. BUt its only illegal when a citizen does it.

I will agree with protectmd i dont think cops should do half the stuff they do unless there on emergency.
 

witchiepooh 364

New Member
I don't normally post to any of these unless they really interest me...but whoever started this thread GET OVER IT! obviously you have never been anywhere in the transportation field for a career...if you take notice...the UPS man, the pizza delivery person, taxi driver, STS driver and so on...they all drive faster than the speed limit...their jobs are time limit jobs and to get the job done the way the owners want it and the public demand it it has to be done...shoot as it is people are always complaining on how long it takes for the police to respond after they place the call! is someone standing there with a stop watch! The cops are doing there jobs! and until you take a job within a transportation industry then you will never understand how important it is to get from one end of the county to the other quickly......and i suppose with all of your training in motor sports the car you drive everyday has the body seatbelt as well ? drive the way you want to ....meanwhile let the people that are there for you drive the way they have to........
 

Richard Cranium

New Member
I went to Shopper's for a few minutes. As I came out of Shoppers and turned right onto 235 south, I noticed a MSP stopped at the red light (headed southbound also). As I neared the CVS, the light turned green. The MSP squad car took off like a bat outta hell, no lights, so I moved from the center lane to the right, figuring he had somewhere to be in a hurry.

As he gets even with me, I glance over and see that it's a man and a woman (probably his wife) in plain clothes, so I paced them, 65 in a 45, and backed off slightly.

The big rush? They pulled into Damon's and parked.

2:20 this afternoon, the car plate # is U-21.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Richard Cranium said:
I went to Shopper's for a few minutes. As I came out of Shoppers and turned right onto 235 south, I noticed a MSP stopped at the red light (headed southbound also). As I neared the CVS, the light turned green. The MSP squad car took off like a bat outta hell, no lights, so I moved from the center lane to the right, figuring he had somewhere to be in a hurry.

As he gets even with me, I glance over and see that it's a man and a woman (probably his wife) in plain clothes, so I paced them, 65 in a 45, and backed off slightly.

The big rush? They pulled into Damon's and parked.

2:20 this afternoon, the car plate # is U-21.

You should have followed him in and made a citizens arrest.
 

Oz

You're all F'in Mad...
Richard Cranium said:
I went to Shopper's for a few minutes. As I came out of Shoppers and turned right onto 235 south, I noticed a MSP stopped at the red light (headed southbound also). As I neared the CVS, the light turned green. The MSP squad car took off like a bat outta hell, no lights, so I moved from the center lane to the right, figuring he had somewhere to be in a hurry.

As he gets even with me, I glance over and see that it's a man and a woman (probably his wife) in plain clothes, so I paced them, 65 in a 45, and backed off slightly.

The big rush? They pulled into Damon's and parked.

2:20 this afternoon, the car plate # is U-21.


Thats a trooper from the Prince Frederick barracks. Why do we even care about how fast they drive? If I worked in law enforcement, I would mat it too. It see it as a fringe benefit and compensation for having a job that requires you to wear a second-chance vest every day.

Who cares? I think this falls into the "worry about something important" category... :ohwell:
 
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