When are groceries supposed to get prohibitively expensive?

[phreddyp]

Ok. Show me where i said we need less skilled tradespeople or any mention of a shortage of skilled technical workers.

You just spouted some other crap having nothing to do with what i said.

Where did i say everyone needs to go to college?

What you are missing is nobody gives a FU*K what you SAY, we just refute the lies you make!

 

[Ramp Guy]

Sure. Sounds highly likely.

So you do admit these tarrifs <----- will raise costs for someone. <----- (missing a question mark) I giess <------ thats <-------- good first step toward reality.

Is english your second language?

 

[Wickedwrench]

Not growing up in MD were trades looked down upon here?

Most of my friends from outside work are tradesmen such as electricians, elevator repair, construction, even a cement truck operator, they all have good lives. I'm the oddball of the group.

I attended the tech center in prior to starting my career in the automotive repair field. At the same time, I was in a pre-college/advanced placement curriculum at my local high school. Most of the kids I attended class with looked down on me for also learning a trade. Most of my educators also enjoyed teasing the "techie" because they felt physical labor made someone a lesser person. There will always be a stigma I'm afraid.

 

[Kyle]

There will always be a stigma I'm afraid.

there needs to be a surcharge for that stigma when they have a plumbing, electrical or HVAC Emergency.

 

[vraiblonde]

I attended the tech center in prior to starting my career in the automotive repair field. At the same time, I was in a pre-college/advanced placement curriculum at my local high school. Most of the kids I attended class with looked down on me for also learning a trade. Most of my educators also enjoyed teasing the "techie" because they felt physical labor made someone a lesser person. There will always be a stigma I'm afraid.

Depends on where you are. In the midwest and south people who do real work are well regarded.

 

[Wickedwrench]

there needs to be a surcharge for that stigma when they have a plumbing, electrical or HVAC Emergency.

Undeniably the stigma hit a little different when their truck was broken down.

 

[Wickedwrench]

Depends on where you are. In the midwest and south people who do real work are well regarded.

It may be because there is so many careers here that are technology centered? I never really understood looking down at someone for having different career goals.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

I attended the tech center in prior to starting my career in the automotive repair field. At the same time, I was in a pre-college/advanced placement curriculum at my local high school. Most of the kids I attended class with looked down on me for also learning a trade. Most of my educators also enjoyed teasing the "techie" because they felt physical labor made someone a lesser person. There will always be a stigma I'm afraid.

That is so annoying. And now they want tech/trade workers to pay off their college loans. Nope.

 

[PJay]

Undeniably the stigma hit a little different when their truck was broken down.

I always want to give people a big hug after fixing something for me.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

there needs to be a surcharge for that stigma when they have a plumbing, electrical or HVAC Emergency.

I remember when the Deep Water Horizon spill occurred. They were asking for suggestions from anyone to stop the flow of oil. They tried all kinds of solutions, but they didn't work. A plumber had submitted a suggestion, but the engineers on the selection board didn't think it would work. After exhausting all the other ideas, they decided to take a chance on the plumber's design. It worked. Who else would know better how to stop liquids from flowing.

I also remember when the International Space Station almost had to shut down because of plumbing issues.

 

[Blister]

I haven't seen any reduction in food prices. So the eggs came down a little, BFD.
Meat prices are out of sight. Right here bragging on ground beef at over $5 dollars a lb.
That aint nothng to brag on folks. Ground beef in the red tube should be in the $3 dollar a lb. range.
A piece of New York Strip should be in the $7 dollar range, it's up over $12 dollars.
BJ';s still have their roast chicken for $5 bucks but you can't eat it every day.

How about that $4.50 loaf of bread. ? And lunch meat is out of sight. $5,99 for baloney or BBQ loaf ,even Spam is now a high priced meal.

By Crikey back in my day you could buy a whole cow for $50. I remember my Dad complaining about paying $12 for a dozen crabs, "Who he hell is going to pay a dollar for a crab."

 

[DogWhisperer]

I remember this from the 70's. What has been happening with the alarmism has been going on for over 50 years now. If you think about it, in the 70's we still used paper bags, glass bottles, and cardboard egg holders. All easily biodegradable. The new and "improved" plastics and the decision to move to plastics is a major problem. Now we have micro plastics in our bodies.

 

[phreddyp]

By Crikey back in my day you could buy a whole cow for $50. I remember my Dad complaining about paying $12 for a dozen crabs, "Who he hell is going to pay a dollar for a crab."

Elmer Ward used to sell crabs at the end of Dowell rd. for $3.00 a dozen for jumbos.

 

[Hijinx]

By Crikey back in my day you could buy a whole cow for $50. I remember my Dad complaining about paying $12 for a dozen crabs, "Who he hell is going to pay a dollar for a crab."

I remember selling soft crabs for a quarter apiece., and there were plenty of them.

I remember when I was about 12 and we were coming back from shopping at the A&P on Pa. Ave Wasington. Daddy had a 53 Buick and we filled the trunk with groceries and dad was complaining about spending $25. dollars, while we ate our Little Tavern hamburgers that cost a nickel apiece.
Buy 'em by the bag. They were pretty small but good.

 

[phreddyp]

I remember selling soft crabs for a quarter apiece., and there were plenty of them.

I remember when I was about 12 and we were coming back from shopping at the A&P on Pa. Ave Wasington. Daddy had a 53 Buick and we filled the trunk with groceries and dad was complaining about spending $25. dollars, while we ate our Little Tavern hamburgers that cost a nickel apiece.
Buy 'em by the bag. They were pretty small but good.

Yeah nothing better than walking in front of the university of Md. Pier in Solomons at low tide picking them up by hand in the seagrass.

 

[RoseRed]

I remember this from the 70's. What has been happening with the alarmism has been going on for over 50 years now. If you think about it, in the 70's we still used paper bags, glass bottles, and cardboard egg holders. All easily biodegradable. The new and "improved" plastics and the decision to move to plastics is a major problem. Now we have micro plastics in our bodies.

Ah, the Italian Indian. I remember. I also remember going to Europe in 1983 and they were using the plastic grocery/shopping bags, while we still used paper, and thinking that those plastic bags were a bad idea.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

TL;DR

Tis a shame, really. I've always thought of you to be level headed. Part and parcel of what is wrong with people nowadays. Never taking the time to try to fully understand things. How does anyone expect to understand what is happening if one doesn't take the time to read the information about any given subject? Do you want to remain ignorant. Afraid to take the 'red pill'?

If you took the time later to read my post, perhaps your thinking and understanding would change a bit? That you might begin to understand how and why things happen as they do. Did you know that all mortgage loan contracts, actually all bank loan contracts, are based in fraud? Banks are supposed to be lending something of value, right? Some Thing they have on immediate hand to lend. When they "lend" you money they just created out of thin air, that is fraud, that is counterfeiting. Banks by law cannot lend any of their own money, nor the money of their depositors. So when you can't repay that fraudulent loan, with the fraudulent money they created, they foreclose and take your house.

The more you know, the better prepared you can be. Knowledge is a person's currency. Ignorance is a person depleted of knowledge and understanding.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

Ah, the Italian Indian. I remember. I also remember going to Europe in 1983 and they were using the plastic grocery/shopping bags, while we still used paper, and thinking that those plastic bags were a bad idea.

I was thinking the same thing about the Italian Indian. Those plastic bags are like rabbits. They seem to multiple rapidly.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

Yeah nothing better than walking in front of the university of Md. Pier in Solomons at low tide picking them up by hand in the seagrass.

Now you can get plenty of plastic bags that way.

 

[vraiblonde]

But I don't really understand inflation and price hikes and wage hikes. WHY doesn't a house still cost $10k? Why aren't eggs still .25 a doz? Why isn't $30k considered a high wage? Remember when being a millionaire was astronomical money? Now we have multi BILLIONAIRES.

Which comes first, the price hikes or the wage hikes? And why?

I'm reading a book about old Hollywood and in the 1920s $100/week was considered pretty good pay. So how does that change? And don't tell me to take an economics class - someone on here can explain it to me for free.

So the answer is "nobody knows". I tried to ask an AI bot and it gave me the runaround.

Why does the cost of living go up?
Because of inflation.

What causes inflation?
Demand-pull inflation occurs when demand outstrips supply, often due to factors like increased money supply, rising wages, or government spending. Cost-push inflation arises when the cost of production (raw materials, labor, etc.) increases, leading to higher prices for consumers.

Why does cost of production increase?
Production costs increase due to a variety of factors including inflation, supply chain disruptions, labor shortages, rising transportation costs, and higher raw material prices. Additionally, increased labor costs, such as those resulting from higher minimum wages, can also contribute to increased production costs

So basically:
Inflation is caused by higher cost of production.
Higher cost of production is caused by inflation.



That may make sense to somebody but to me it's like getting the "Press x" runaround when you try to call a support desk.

I also don't understand why limited availability would make something more expensive. To me that's a psychological thing, perceived value. It's limited, therefore it must be more valuable and people will pay more for it. And PS, you poors can stay away because only the wealthy can have this thing. We charge this much for it because we can.

The economy doesn't really need to be this complicated.