Why are Jeeps so expensive?

glhs837

Power with Control
Do they really steal stuff from under the hoods of Jeeps? I mean if you leave it at the Park and Ride for 8 hours a day, but if you are leaving it at 2187 or WalMart, I wouldnt think the risk was too high.
 

warneckutz

Well-Known Member
Do they really steal stuff from under the hoods of Jeeps? I mean if you leave it at the Park and Ride for 8 hours a day, but if you are leaving it at 2187 or WalMart, I wouldnt think the risk was too high.

I was thinking that it's easy to get under the hood. You could grab something or destroy something pretty easy.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I was thinking that it's easy to get under the hood. You could grab something or destroy something pretty easy.

Which was my point, you could, but whats the reality of the threat. Whats your exposure to that threat? Are Jeeps hit for underhood theft often? I dont know, but thinking back over crime reports, I cant recall people reporting stuff ripped from Jeeps engine bays.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
I'm looking at spare tire covers, found one I really like, but not sure how the sizing works. The tires I have are 33 X 12.50 R18. I don't see that size on any covers. Would I use the 18 part?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
I'm looking at spare tire covers, found one I really like, but not sure how the sizing works. The tires I have are 33 X 12.50 R18. I don't see that size on any covers. Would I use the 18 part?

33 is the diameter of the tire is it not??

12.5 is the width of the tire, and the 18 is the size of the rim..

For a tire cover you'd be interested in the 33 and the 12.5...
18 is NA for a tire cover.

ANy of the 33X12.5 will work no matter if the last number is 16 18 or 22..
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
33 is the diameter of the tire is it not??

12.5 is the width of the tire, and the 18 is the size of the rim..

For a tire cover you'd be interested in the 33 and the 12.5...
18 is NA for a tire cover.

ANy of the 33X12.5 will work no matter if the last number is 16 18 or 22..

Thanks, I did a bunch of research and found out exactly what you said. Have one on order now.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
Took me about an hour today, but I got the front light guards on. Youtube and the owner's manual.
 

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warneckutz

Well-Known Member
33 is the diameter of the tire is it not??

12.5 is the width of the tire, and the 18 is the size of the rim..

For a tire cover you'd be interested in the 33 and the 12.5...
18 is NA for a tire cover.

ANy of the 33X12.5 will work no matter if the last number is 16 18 or 22..

Nerd... :coffee:
 

warneckutz

Well-Known Member
I kinda/sorta want a second Wrangler... something to throw a huge suspension on along with some huge tires...
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
I was sitting outside in the Jeep today waiting for my daughter to run into Subway and this woman comes up and says "OMG, your Jeep is so beautiful, what a sharp ride, I love this Jeep. Who makes this?" Wut?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
.... "OMG, your Jeep is so beautiful, what a sharp ride, I love this Jeep. Who makes this?"

Wut?


well the history is a bit complicated ....


Willy's-Overland - wins the contract to build the vehicle designed by American Bantam knows as the Willys MB, as well as Ford and American Bantam [who never manufactured more than a few 100]

In 1938 Joseph W. Frazer had joined Willys from Chrysler as chief executive. He saw a need to improve the firm's 4-cylinder engine to handle the punishment to which the Jeep would be subjected. This objective was brilliantly achieved by ex-Studebaker chief engineer Delmar "Barney" Roos, who wanted

"an engine that could develop 15 horsepower at 4,400 r.p.m. and run for 150 hours without failure. What he started with was an engine that developed 48 horsepower at 3,400 r.p.m., and could run continuously for only two to four hours. . . It took Barney Roos two years to perfect his engine, by a whole complex of revisions that included closer tolerances, tougher alloys, aluminum pistons, and a flywheel reduced in weight from fifty-seven to thirty-one pounds".[1]

:faint:

The cost per vehicle trended upwards as the war continued from the price under the first contract from Willy's at US$648.74 (Ford's was $782.59 per unit)

I'd love to have a 1942 Willy's MB for % 650 dollars .....

Kaiser continued building Jeep CJ's after the war until 1953 ....

In 1953 Kaiser Motors purchased Willys-Overland and changed the name to Willys Motor Company. The same year, production of the Kaiser car was moved from Willow Run, Michigan to the Willys plant at Toledo, Ohio. Although Jeep production was steady, sales of the Willys and Kaiser cars continued to fall. In 1954, the CJ5 debuted at the start of its three-decade run.

After the last Willys passenger car was built in 1955, Willys shipped the tooling for the Aero to Brazil, where it was built from 1960 to 1962, almost unchanged. A 1953 Aero Lark was located in the estate of the late Howard Hughes, after he died en route to the US from Mexico aboard a small private airplane. Brooks Stevens restyled it for 1963, and the Aero continued to be built by Ford after they purchased Willys-Overland do Brasil until the 1970s. The American company changed its name again in 1963 to Kaiser-Jeep Corporation, at which time the Willys name disappeared.

Legacy

Kaiser-Jeep was sold to American Motors Corporation (AMC) in 1970 when Kaiser Industries decided to leave the automobile business. After the sale, AMC used engines it had developed for its other cars in Jeep models to improve performance and standardize production and servicing.

Renault purchased a major stake in AMC in 1979 and took over operation of the company, producing the CJ series until 1986. Chrysler purchased AMC in 1987 after the CJ had already been replaced with the Jeep Wrangler (also known as the YJ and later TJ), which had little in common with the CJ series other than outward appearance. DaimlerChrysler, now Fiat, still produces Jeep vehicles at a brand new Toledo Complex.

DaimlerChrysler would introduce the Overland name for a trim package on the 2003–present Jeep Grand Cherokee. The badging is a recreation of the Overland nameplate from the early twentieth century.

further background on Kaiser - Frazer .....

Originally formed as the Kaiser-Frazer Corporation in 1945, the firm was reorganized in 1953 under the name Kaiser Motors Corporation after withdrawal of Joseph W. Frazer from the venture. The Kaiser-Frazer stock was redeemed and Kaiser Motors stock was issued at that time. Kaiser Motors manufactured automobiles in a number of locations around the world with the primary facility and corporate headquarters at Willow Run, Michigan.

The company, founded by Henry J. Kaiser, a United States industrialist, and Joseph W. Frazer, president of the Graham-Paige Corporation, started making automobiles with the brand names Kaiser and Frazer almost immediately after World War II. Kaiser-Frazer also built a small car called the Henry J, named for Henry Kaiser. A slightly re-designed version of the Henry J was sold by selected Sears Auto Centers during 1952 and 1953 under the brand name Allstate. This car was tagged as a product of Sears-Roebuck. While listed for informational purposes in the Sears "wish books", the car could not be purchased by mail order.



Kaiser is also well know for building Liberty Ships and forming an HMO as a wage incentive, when War Dept. regulations would not allow him to pay employees a higher wage ....
 

Friends4now

New Member
do you still own a jeep today? i just recently purchased a 2011 grand cherokee and i am considering the sky cost of i.e. tune up with those 16 plugs as oppose to the 8 plugs and my husband thinks we might of bit of more than we wanted. not sure though. can you advise. thank you.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
do you still own a jeep today? i just recently purchased a 2011 grand cherokee and i am considering the sky cost of i.e. tune up with those 16 plugs as oppose to the 8 plugs and my husband thinks we might of bit of more than we wanted. not sure though. can you advise. thank you.

New cars shouldn't need tune ups..

If they need one before say 100k miles, you may have chose the wrong kind of car.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
New cars shouldn't need tune ups..

If they need one before say 100k miles, you may have chose the wrong kind of car.

16 ?

what is this a V 16 Motor or a V8 with 2 plugs per cylinder




You still need plugs Bob. And the platinums in mine were pretty much toast at 70K. And Gurps, the modern Hemis do indeed have 2 plugs per. And one coil pak per cylinder.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
You still need plugs Bob. And the platinums in mine were pretty much toast at 70K. And Gurps, the modern Hemis do indeed have 2 plugs per. And one coil pak per cylinder.

wow ...... ok :buddies:

Old Ideas are NEW Again .....

OHC, Turbo / Superchargers ... FI
 

glhs837

Power with Control
wow ...... ok :buddies:

Old Ideas are NEW Again .....

OHC, Turbo / Superchargers ... FI



A lot of these ideas are indeed old, and went out of favor becuase we simply didnt have the tech/materials to pull them off in a product that was owned and operated by A-B types. Back then they required care and feeding the average owner simply wouldn't bother with, then you get early failures and warranty claims and a bad reputation.
 
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