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ladybug2004

New Member
otter said:
All govt jobs/contracts are like that, and they take it VERY seriously. We have to fill out our time cards daily at the end of the work day.


:yeahthat: We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
ladybug2004 said:
:yeahthat: We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.
And here's the fine print: If an employee is on a "fixed" worked schedule, the hours can be recorded in advance as long as they are corrected if there was a variation from his/her fixed schedule.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
ladybug2004 said:
:yeahthat: We are monitored here daily and no one better not get caught entering time before the close of the day. Several people have been sent home for three days w/o pay for doing this.
What a horrible working atmosphere! Sounds like one of my former employers, once named "Tracor." Most of the other employers in the area treat their people like people, not children. That was one of the main reasons I left Tracor.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
otter said:
All govt jobs/contracts are like that, and they take it VERY seriously. We have to fill out our time cards daily at the end of the work day.
Even non-DOD government employees? Like I said, no one here has ever done otherwise. And I've been here a really long time. I can walk down this wing and ask everyone if they've ever heard of a timesheet audit. Or if they've EVER filled out their timesheet every day OR submitted it at any time other than before the end of the pay period.

Heck, you should see how I fill out my activity reports for the month. It's the best exercise I ever get in creative writing. Since it has to be summarized at about four or five levels each time, I typically write a report for the month on about the *15th*. Since it has to actually cover work for the *calendar* month, and not since the last report, I always have to "guess" what will happen in the next two weeks.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Chasey_Lane said:
And here's the fine print: If an employee is on a "fixed" worked schedule, the hours can be recorded in advance as long as they are corrected if there was a variation from his/her fixed schedule.
THANKS. That's probably the justification, I'm sure.

The REAL reason is, the timekeeper is an idiot. When I worked at EMA, they did all their stuff in one day - actually, in ONE morning. And it got signed off, because the timekeeper wasn't busy gossiping in the cafeteria or doing her nails. If the correct person wasn't there to sign off, there was a mechanism in place in the event they couldn't do it that day.

Having "secretaries" is a luxury, believe me. I hate having to spend half the day doing paperwork that used to be done by the secretary IF she was competent enough to do her job. I think part of the problem always was two-fold - they never pay enough to get good people, and they never have mechanisms in place to efficiently get rid of BAD people.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Chasey_Lane said:
Regardless of how it has "always" been done is not validation to keep doing it that way.
Always Done That Way isn't an explanation. It's simply stating that there ain't nobody "watching". And because of that, I can't see that it pertains to us. You just can't go twenty years doing something illegal with 5-10,000 people, and nobody notices.

I think the rules don't apply in my case. The always been done that way is just what we call "empirical proof".
 

redhead77

New Member
do what some of the government people I have worked with do...take an entire day off for a doctor/dentist appointment
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
redhead77 said:
do what some of the government people I have worked with do...take an entire day off for a doctor/dentist appointment
Most of the time, for ME, that's really the only option. I work from 6:30 to 4, and my job is 50 miles away. I can't usually see a doctor before 9 - and that really means more like 9:30, since you'll always wait EVEN if you're there ahead of EVERYONE ELSE that day - so if I'm out at 10, I can't possibly get to work before 11:30, with traffic and parking etc. My day is half over AND I wasted a few gallons of gas for it. This is IF I'm lucky enough to get an early appointment.

The alternative is what I often do IF I can - schedule it on my day off. OR, schedule it in the early evening and leave work an hour early on sick leave. At least I TRY to be honest about it.

But most times, it's just not practical to do anything but take the day off.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
redhead77 said:
do what some of the government people I have worked with do...take an entire day off for a doctor/dentist appointment
What's the matter with that? If you have the leave, why not use it? :shrug:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
SamSpade said:
Most of the time, for ME, that's really the only option. I work from 6:30 to 4, and my job is 50 miles away.
Same boat! I can't go to the doctor on my lunch break and be back to work. I try to get a late afternoon appointment also, that way I can leave work an hour or two early and hopefully make up the time within the pay period.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Chasey_Lane said:
And here's the fine print: If an employee is on a "fixed" worked schedule, the hours can be recorded in advance as long as they are corrected if there was a variation from his/her fixed schedule.

Don't most of us work a "fixed" work schedule? I know that I'm expected to be here between x and x hours m-f. Every job I've ever had has been like that.

We submit our timesheets 1 day before the end of the pay period. :peace: We estimate our hours for the following day and if there's any difference we do a correcting time sheet the following week.
 

redhead77

New Member
Chasey_Lane said:
What's the matter with that? If you have the leave, why not use it? :shrug:

NOTHING is wrong with it.

Just an additional way to use your sick leave if you need to use it up. And if you are close to your doctor you would still have the majority of the day to play.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
pixiegirl said:
Don't most of us work a "fixed" work schedule? I know that I'm expected to be here between x and x hours m-f. Every job I've ever had has been like that.
Of course everyone has a fixed time they're supposed to work. Like I said "fine print" in my post; you'll have to read what the DOL says about it.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
During the first warm days of spring, I needed to visit Doctor Honda quite frequently and the golfers seemed to visit Doctor Green a lot. :lol:
Our time off isn't divided between vacation and sick leave, it's all personal time off (PTO), so nobody cares if you're sick or just sick of work.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
CapsFan said:
Don't call anyone just stay home. Go in the next day and tell them "oh by the way i was on leave yesterday".
I thought you reserved, the "Oh by the way..." if someone NOTICED you weren't there the day before.. If they don't notice why say anything??
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
itsbob said:
I thought you reserved, the "Oh by the way..." if someone NOTICED you weren't there the day before.. If they don't notice why say anything??
:yeahthat:
I had my boy full time a while back and his day care didn't open till 15 minutes after I was supposed to be at work. I was still the first one in my gorup to arrive in th morning :lol:
 
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dems4me

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Chasey_Lane said:
What's the matter with that? If you have the leave, why not use it? :shrug:


not only that but... sometimes the appointment is in the middle of the day, for me its just not worth the couple hours commute time to get here, to put in a cuople hours and then take off and trek a couple of hours back. :shrug: Ideally, I shoot for the earliest appt. or latest appt, but doesn't everyone else?... :lol:
 
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