Oh I am sure you are an expert...just like every one else with comments about big game management in Africa. Sure you are.
Good reading.
https://elephantpopulationsgrowforever.wordpress.com/about-elephant-population-management/
Oh I am sure you are an expert...just like every one else with comments about big game management in Africa. Sure you are.
Does Nintendo count?
It certainly sheds light on the subject, thanks for the post. I am sure the IPs get little of the benefit of the hunts, save the meat.
No Black Dog all my trips to Africa were to port cities in the Merchant Marines in the early 70s so no hunting.
I have been hunting stateside since I was 16, Florida, Georgia, New Mexico and Maryland.
If it was grown for that purpose, why not? This elephant was grown specifically for this purpose, it's basically a farmed animal. They do the same thing all over the US with deer and sheep.
That elephant was not "raised" at all, it was put behind a wall and that was it.
When you raise cattle you feed them, you doctor them, in short it costs a lot of money for a single cow. Knowing how much it costs to raise a horse I can't even imagine how much it would cost to raise an elephant, most definitely more than the $100k or so that is paid to shoot one.
In the first line you imply that they have no money invested in this, by the time you make it to the last line you have the price up to 100k+, which way are you trying to argue? My take on it, it costs millions of dollars to own the ranch, thousands more to fence it, more thousands to patrol for poachers, thousands more for the local governmental "licenses", all of this before the first shot is fired. So yes they have a lot of cash layer out in this venture.
Ok that's your complaint, you don't like the word raised? How about that was it purpose in life, to be shot for money and provide food for the natives?The $100k figure is a safe figure to estimate that the guy didn't pay more than $100k to hunt the elephant.
My point is that did not raise the elephant, they just built a fence around its habitat, that is hardly "raised for the purpose to hunt" as you put it.
Oh I am sure you are an expert...just like every one else with comments about big game management in Africa. Sure you are.
Just like this
http://www.luxuryhunts.com/zimbabwe_elephant_hunt.html
notice this NON-EXPORTABLE, no ivory or head coming back just pictures. The meat goes to the locals, the ivory goes on a Bon fire and then is bulldozed to powder.
Or or in the US there's https://www.edenwoodranch.com where you can hunt trophy size white tail or elk. It has about the same attraction as hunting a cow, but some people like it. Personally I'd rather take younger does (yes Bambi's mother) because rutting bucks just taste crappy.
Why would the tusks be burned?
Ok that's your complaint, you don't like the word raised? How about that was it purpose in life, to be shot for money and provide food for the natives?
Oh please, the "providing food for the natives" just came from someone saying "how can we make something as asinine as this palpable to the world?, I know lets say its providing food for the natives"
The primary reason for this is someone wanted to shoot something big and that is it.
At 12 I wanted nothing more than to go deer hunting like some of my classmates, my dad finally relented and took me but told me that I had to do all the work associated with it. It was a complete pain in the ass and I never wanted to do it again.
My big problem with this and most hunters is that are not honest about why they do it. The reason most do it is that they want to shoot something. The "I've got to feed my family" is such horse ####. Most don't even realize how ####ing stupid it sounds that they need to feed their family, that $60k truck to haul the $10k worth of trailer and ATV would have went a long ass way toward "feeding their family".
If it is dead why not use everything available.If I may ...
Why are locks put on doors? To keep honest people honest. Same with burning the tusks. To ensure that no one profits from them. Because in the presence of temptation, without that lock, even the honest my falter.
If it is dead why not use everything available.
A good day in the woods, field or waterway harvesting nothing is a awesome day just in it's self.
Ok I'll give you my reason for hunting and fishing, I like it. I've hunted since I was about 10 with my grandfather, dad, brother, brother in law, nephews, friends, there's probably more, but those are the ones I remember, it was one of the highlights of every fall. I like the taste of wild game better than beef probably because of the association with those fall hunts. Would I shoot an elephant given the chance, knowing that it was raised (protected) for this reason and that the meat was going to a good cause, maybe. But would I condemn someone else for doing it, never.Oh please, the "providing food for the natives" just came from someone saying "how can we make something as asinine as this palpable to the world?, I know lets say its providing food for the natives"
The primary reason for this is someone wanted to shoot something big and that is it.
At 12 I wanted nothing more than to go deer hunting like some of my classmates, my dad finally relented and took me but told me that I had to do all the work associated with it. It was a complete pain in the ass and I never wanted to do it again.
My big problem with this and most hunters is that are not honest about why they do it. The reason most do it is that they want to shoot something. The "I've got to feed my family" is such horse ####. Most don't even realize how ####ing stupid it sounds that they need to feed their family, that $60k truck to haul the $10k worth of trailer and ATV would have went a long ass way toward "feeding their family".
Ok I'll give you my reason for hunting and fishing, I like it. I've hunted since I was about 10 with my grandfather, dad, brother, brother in law, nephews, friends, there's probably more, but those are the ones I remember, it was one of the highlights of every fall. I like the taste of wild game better than beef probably because of the association with those fall hunts. Would I shoot an elephant given the chance, knowing that it was raised (protected) for this reason and that the meat was going to a good cause, maybe. But would I condemn someone else for doing it, never.
Why does the fact that it's big mean it's out of bounds? This animal has been protected for its entire life, the mortality rate for elephants in the wild is over 50% before they are three years old. The mortality rate for animals at a hunting preserve is better than 95% for a deer ranch, I expect it's similar for elephants. For a deer ranch a deer is picked from a catalog, this deer is moved to a smaller enclosure for the "hunter" to shoot, as I've said I expect that this is similar for elephants.
Just for the record, I don't have any issue with the Japanese hunting whales either.
What you didn't get or understand or your father didn't get and teach you was,
A good day in the woods, field or waterway harvesting nothing is a awesome day just in it's self.
You don't get what some enjoy, no matter what someone tells you, you will never understand.