11 yr old hurt boarding school bus : Bus driver just drove off

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt1Active id=p1907450 width="50%">11 yr old hurt boarding...</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>01-25-2007 07:54 PM</TD><TD class=alt1 width="50%">Idiot.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Hi Bob!

 

[chernmax]

Repeat after me:

Bob is NEVER right.

Unless he is agreeing with me.

 

[itsbob]

Bob, for god's sake.

She stepped onto the bus and her hip went out. She fell back out of the bus and was leaning on a mailbox for support. Idiot bus driver says, "You getting on?" and she says no, she's hurt.

What part of this is so difficult for you to get into your pea brain?????

Are you trying to tell me that if Bubba hurt himself while getting on the bus and the driver just drove off and left him, you wouldn't be pissed as hell???? And don't say it's your intention to walk Bubba to the bus stop every single day until he's old enough to drive, because we all know that's horse####.

No I wouldnt be raising a pussified kid that would need to be walked to the bus stop.. I also won't be raising an idiot for a son that would put all his weight on his HURT leg when he tries to get into a bus. He would however suck it up and get on the damn bus, and not sit on the side of the road in hysterics like a helpless pantywaste. Worthless ass kid, maybe if she lost 30 or 40 pounds her fat legs could support her fat azz!!

Lastly, if any of my kids had hurt themselves bad enough to where they couldn't get on the bus themselves, I'd take the time out of my day to drive them to school myself.

But I'm sure looking at the kid, the parents are probably fat lazy azzes too.. that couldn't be bothered to take care of their child.

 

[itsbob]

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Hi Bob!

Sorry to disappoint.. not me..

If I give red I sign it.. maybe not my name, but I sign it..

And besides, there are only a lucky one or two on these boards that have recieved red from me.. you haven't even come close yet!

 

[PsyOps]

Bob, for god's sake.

She stepped onto the bus and her hip went out. She fell back out of the bus and was leaning on a mailbox for support. Idiot bus driver says, "You getting on?" and she says no, she's hurt.

What part of this is so difficult for you to get into your pea brain?????

Are you trying to tell me that if Bubba hurt himself while getting on the bus and the driver just drove off and left him, you wouldn't be pissed as hell???? And don't say it's your intention to walk Bubba to the bus stop every single day until he's old enough to drive, because we all know that's horse####.

I don’t think you are getting even what you are saying. You are saying that now it has become more the responsibility of the bus driver than the parent to ensure an 11 year gets on the bus. This is just not so.

Next are you also going to tell me that if that bus driver gets up out of his seat to lift that child onto the bus and that child slips out of his hands and she falls, cracking her skull on the asphalt that the parents have a right to sue the county? Because that’s exactly what would happen.

I know how much you want to pin responsibility on someone else but the only person responsible for that kid is the kid's parent.

 

[vraiblonde]

I know how much you want to pin responsibility on someone else but the only person responsible for that kid is the kid's parent.

Are you people for real???

So you're saying you see a kid get hurt, right in front of you, and the appropriate reaction is to drive off and leave them there????

And I've got news for you - there are MANY adults who are responsible for your child throughout the day. Teachers, day care providers, Scout leaders, coaches, dance instructors and, yes, BUS DRIVERS.

What do you think would happen to some teacher if a kid got hurt in their classroom or out on the playground, and they just ignored it and left the kid sit?

How about if your little ballerina pulls a hamstring and collapses on the studio floor, and the instructor just dances around them like nothing's happening?

What if a kid sprains an ankle during a Scout hike? Should the Scoutmaster just leave them lay there?

I find your attitude shocking and am glad that I have better adults around me and my kids.

 

[kwillia]

Are you people for real???

So you're saying you see a kid get hurt, right in front of you, and the appropriate reaction is to drive off and leave them there????

And I've got news for you - there are MANY adults who are responsible for your child throughout the day.

Exactly, Vrai! Let's not forget horn honkin' Lexi... she wasn't responsible for any of the kids in that fight, but she intervened just the same.

 

[vraiblonde]

I've chaperoned many a field trip where the boys (because it's ALWAYS boys) have gotten rowdy and someone ended up with a sprained ankle or bloody nose. I didn't just leave them lay there and continue on with my group.

 

[vraiblonde]

"Uh...where's my son?"
"Oh, he twisted his ankle jumping off the ledge by the Washington Monument. He's probably still there unless someone grabbed him."

 

[PsyOps]

Are you people for real???

So you're saying you see a kid get hurt, right in front of you, and the appropriate reaction is to drive off and leave them there????

And I've got news for you - there are MANY adults who are responsible for your child throughout the day. Teachers, day care providers, Scout leaders, coaches, dance instructors and, yes, BUS DRIVERS.

What do you think would happen to some teacher if a kid got hurt in their classroom or out on the playground, and they just ignored it and left the kid sit?

How about if your little ballerina pulls a hamstring and collapses on the studio floor, and the instructor just dances around them like nothing's happening?

What if a kid sprains an ankle during a Scout hike? Should the Scoutmaster just leave them lay there?

I find your attitude shocking and am glad that I have better adults around me and my kids.

If I see an 11 year old kid get hurt in the mall, getting on the bus, what-have-you, I will do what I can to help that child. Then my next question will be, “where is your mom or dad?” I will take that risk to make sure the kid is safe. But if something goes wrong I can get sued. This has caused people to stop acting and caused our local governments to more strictly define what their employees should and shouldn’t do. I’m quite sure the bus driver wanted to help but probably said it’s not worth losing his job if he screws up by trying to help.

And I knew you were going to bring up the classroom and others examples… I’m not talking about once a kid is on the bus or in the classroom, or in the care of the scout leader on a hike, etc… Of course the bus driver is responsible for the kid once she is on the bus or the teacher is responsible once the kid is in the school. Please define for me at what point the bus driver becomes responsible for the kid? 10 feet from the bus, 30 feet, on the first step? If a kid is supposed to be getting the bus and decides instead to run around the bus, is the bus driver responsible for getting out of the bus and forcing the kid on the bus and then chastising the child for misbehaving? No. In fact the bus driver is not even supposed to get out of their bus unless it’s an emergency. In all conscience it would be the right thing to do but it’s not the driver’s job. It’s the parents’ job. Of course the parents aren’t there, so we want to push it on someone else for our own convenience.

I’m glad you have better adults around you too. I have been at the bus stops where kids (younger than 11) get themselves up in the morning, feed themselves, get dressed on their own and get to the bus stop by themselves; no parent. They run amok of the place causing all sorts of problems. Many of them, in the dead of winter, don’t have coats on. Then when something goes wrong the parents suddenly show interest in their child and ready to blame someone else. I find this attitude not only shocking but sickening that parents have become so derelict. Now don’t take this as I am talking about you. I am just saying the absent parent can explain so many things that are wrong with our kids today and how it has ruined the ability of folks like bus drivers to do the job they were hired to do, which is get your kid to school.

 

[itsbob]

And I knew you were going to bring up the classroom and others examples… I’m not talking about once a kid is on the bus or in the classroom, or in the care of the scout leader on a hike, etc… Of course the bus driver is responsible for the kid once she is on the bus or the teacher is responsible once the kid is in the school. Please define for me at what point the bus driver becomes responsible for the kid? 10 feet from the bus, 30 feet, on the first step? If a kid is supposed to be getting the bus and decides instead to run around the bus, is the bus driver responsible for getting out of the bus and forcing the kid on the bus and then chastising the child for misbehaving? No. In fact the bus driver is not even supposed to get out of their bus unless it’s an emergency. In all conscience it would be the right thing to do but it’s not the driver’s job. It’s the parents’ job. Of course the parents aren’t there, so we want to push it on someone else for our own convenience.

According to what the rule book said, the bus driver has no responsibility for children outside of the bus.. the bus attendant (if the bus has one, usually for disabled children) can ONLY help from the curb.. the parents are responsible to get their kids safely from the house to the curb and back.. if no attendant, the bus driver has no respoinsibility to help anyone on or off the bus, help with bookbags etc, no matter how close they get. His/her job is to sit in the drivers seat with their seatbelt on, and safely operate the bus.

 

[itsbob]

BAD BAD BAD KARMA!!


VRAI, who should I report this to!??

11 yr old hurt boarding... 01-26-2007 12:49 AM I'll give BadGirl a free Premo if she'll smother you in your sleep tonight

 

[czygvtwkr]

When I rode the bus to school there were 6-10 kids at my stop and the driver didnt know anyones names. I know this cause I got in a fight on the bus and the drive asked me what my name was.

Kids usually get on the bus before school starts (duh) so if the drive radios dispatch some kid didnt get on the bus probably only one person hears it.

So this one person calls the cops and says at X and Y Street some kid that I dont know the name of didnt get on the bus for reasons unknown to me, I bet the police would send out an APB.

 

[Penn]

We've pretty much gone round and round with this, but heck, couldn't the bus driver taken the time to ask the girls her name, and "can I get you some help?", then called the dispatcher, or the school nurse - anyone - to notify the parent?

Wouldn't an 11 year old know her own phone number? If so, the school could have called the girl's home and notified the parent.

However, I still think the parent(s) who knew the girl was ailing should have been there at the bus stop to see her off.

 

[PsyOps]

According to what the rule book said, the bus driver has no responsibility for children outside of the bus.. the bus attendant (if the bus has one, usually for disabled children) can ONLY help from the curb.. the parents are responsible to get their kids safely from the house to the curb and back.. if no attendant, the bus driver has no respoinsibility to help anyone on or off the bus, help with bookbags etc, no matter how close they get. His/her job is to sit in the drivers seat with their seatbelt on, and safely operate the bus.

That's the point I've been trying to make. Now I don't agree with the bus driver driving off in the way it was explained, but we really don't know all the facts behind that either.

I also have to say that it pains me that there was a time where we all looked out for each other. When someone needed help we would help. Those days are long gone. It's all about ME: I have to get to my job, the kid can get to the bus by herself. I expect someone else to watch my kid so I can get to my job. I will sue that someone else if they harm my child trying to help them get on the bus.

I know this sounds callous to those single parents that have to work to get food on the table and all that. I do understand this but this does not minimize your top responsibility; which is your kids. If you can't be responsible for your own kid how can you expect someone else to be responsible for your kid?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

That's the point I've been trying to make. Now I don't agree with the bus driver driving off in the way it was explained, but we really don't know all the facts behind that either.

I also have to say that it pains me that there was a time where we all looked out for each other. When someone needed help we would help. Those days are long gone. It's all about ME: I have to get to my job, the kid can get to the bus by herself. I expect someone else to watch my kid so I can get to my job. I will sue that someone else if they harm my child trying to help them get on the bus.

I know this sounds callous to those single parents that have to work to get food on the table and all that. I do understand this but this does not minimize your top responsibility; which is your kids. If you can't be responsible for your own kid how can you expect someone else to be responsible for your kid?

Well said ... until you got to the single mothers thing - I disagree to a point there.

 

[Penn]

I know this sounds callous to those single parents that have to work to get food on the table and all that. I do understand this but this does not minimize your top responsibility; which is your kids.

If you can't be responsible for your own kid how can you expect someone else to be responsible for your kid?

The last sentence, at least for me, is as close to the bottom line/last word as you can get.

Yes, the bus driver might have done more, but the parent is the person most responsible for the child's saftey and well being.

 

[PsyOps]

Well said ... until you got to the single mothers thing - I disagree to a point there.

Look I realize it sounds extreme and I tried to caveat my comment, as best I could, with realizing it's tough for single parents (I didn't say single moms). I know they do the best they can. But that does not excuse putting your kids at risk. I'm thankful this article is only talking about a child with a hurt leg and a rude bus driver. It could've been about a kidnapping. Haven't we seen enough of those to wake our butts up?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Look I realize it sounds extreme and I tried to caveat my comment, as best I could, with realizing it's tough for single parents (I didn't say single moms). I know they do the best they can. But that does not excuse putting your kids at risk. I'm thankful this article is only talking about a child with a hurt leg and a rude bus driver. It could've been about a kidnapping. Haven't we seen enough of those to wake our butts up?

I don't think she put her kid at risk. :shrug:

 

[Penn]

I don't think she put her kid at risk. :shrug:

Andy, with all due respect:

Might this incident not have happened if the girl's mom was there to see her off at the bus stop?