5 Year Old Temper Tantrum

[Vince]

I think there is already a thread for this story but not sure.

I personally do not have a problem with the way this situation ended. The mother was called on numerous occasions for this child's behavior and for this specific time, she was at work and could (I think would) not leave until 3 to come get her brat. If the kid acts like this in public you know she does it at home and gets away with it. My child would never spit or hit at anyone and get away with it. I think the mother should be reprimanded as well for raising such a demon child. Could you imagine if your child was in class with this girl and she acted like this on a regular basis?

And when the mother finally comes and gets her brat you tell her, "Don't bring her back to school until she's ready to behave."

 

[itsbob]

I want to hug that little girl. She obviously is out of control and doesn't know what to do about it, and that's supposed to be the adults' job - to guide her with a firm hand instead of chase her around arguing with her.

Calling the police because a 5-year old child won't behave! What kind of teachers do they have at that place that can't control their class and have to call a cop? The part where they handcuffed her about killed me. Frigging idiots.

You've got to be kidding me.. teachers are taught NOT to even comfort kids in distress. that have been hurt on the poayground or bullied.. they are taught to put their hands behind their backs NOT to touch for ANY reason, and talk calmy and reassuringly.. A firm hand would have cost everyone involved their jobs, and probably an ensuing lawsuit.

They call the police becasue society has tied their hands and they have NO choice. and that cunning little 5 year old knew what she was doing.. as soon as she looked out the window and saw the police were there she sat calmly in her chair.. and the first thing they said was "The last time we were here we told your mom we would handcuff you the next time" They did what they said they were going to do, what would they be telling the chhild if they didn't do what they already told her they were going to do!?

THEN I think they should have had mom get on her hands and knees and pick up everything the child threw to the floor, charge her for what her child destroyed, charge her for all the time wasted by the staff, the teachers, and the cleaning crew. even the tape in the camera..

Personally I have to hand it to the teachers, I wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in a room with that little girl let alone almost an hour..

 

[Pegster710]

I want to hug that little girl. She obviously is out of control and doesn't know what to do about it, and that's supposed to be the adults' job - to guide her with a firm hand instead of chase her around arguing with her.

Calling the police because a 5-year old child won't behave! What kind of teachers do they have at that place that can't control their class and have to call a cop? The part where they handcuffed her about killed me. Frigging idiots.

vrai,

Do you really think anyone could have hugged her? She wouldn't let her teacher come near her - or the administrators - and she was familiar with them. Every time they did, she got up and destrroyed something else. Legally, they could only touch her to keep her from hurting herself (safety) or to protect themselves.

She has apparently been a repeat offender - she knows she can get away with this. I think placing her in handcuffs - and they did it gently - was the best thing they could have done for her. She needs to understand that her actions have consequences. Before it's too late. "Scared Straight" comes to mind...

Rest assured that she'll think twice before acting up in her new school... Which, by the way, I think is a crock. Her parents should be grateful - take her back to class and make her apologize to her teacher and classmates.

I have a friend who teaches at Park Hall Elementary. You should hear some of the stories she tells... And don't think little kids aren't strong... My three year old granddaughter threw a fit a few months ago at my house. I used my whole body to restrain her (without hurting her) - on my bed - and she gave me a run for my money! It was all I could do to keep her there with me.

I look back at my school days - I was afraid to get into trouble. I saw the paddle hanging in the principals office every day when I walked to class. I was even more afraid of what my parents would do to me if I acted up. I came from a very loving home, but we were disciplined.

IMHO, public schools need to be able to discipline children - there needs to be a "checks and balances" system, but the kids today need to fear something...

 

[xstarlikex]

I think I would have just locked her in that office and let her have her temper tantrum. While she was doing this I would just get a pad and paper and write down everything she destroyed with the cost. When her mother eventually came to pick her up, I would have handed her the paper with everything on it and said, "Because your daughter wanted to destroy everything in my office, you have to pay for all of it."

I don't think it was bad that the police restrained her, although 3 cops were a little too much for a five year old.

And it is dumb that the mother wants to sue because of this. If the child is already transfered to a different school, then it shouldn't matter. She says she is not doing it for the money, but really, what other reason would she have?

 

[Vince]

Send her my way - I have a knack with kids.

Kids that act like that are trying to communicate, they just don't know how to do it effectively so they pitch a frustration fit. Smacking them around doesn't work and calling the police is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You have to teach them to stop and think about what they're feeling, then teach them to express it effectively. Which is hard to do when you're frustrated as well and just really want to smack the #### out of them.

Those stupid teachers could really make a difference in that little girl's life if they put their minds to it. As it stands, they just want to chase her around, mouthing touchy-feely inanitites, then call the cops.

If the child were mentally handicapped I could see your point, but if she's a normal everyday kid then I'm sorry, she needs a good spanking which apparently has never been given at home. I've raised an autistic son and believe me there were many times I wanted to smack the crap out of him. He was very violent and hit me more times than I can count, but I resisted the urge to hit back because I knew that he didn't really know what he was doing or why. This girl appears absolutely normal and defiinitely out of control. Would like to see what her home life is like.

 

[itsbob]

Send her my way - I have a knack with kids.

Kids that act like that are trying to communicate, they just don't know how to do it effectively so they pitch a frustration fit. Smacking them around doesn't work and calling the police is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You have to teach them to stop and think about what they're feeling, then teach them to express it effectively. Which is hard to do when you're frustrated as well and just really want to smack the #### out of them.

Those stupid teachers could really make a difference in that little girl's life if they put their minds to it. As it stands, they just want to chase her around, mouthing touchy-feely inanitites, then call the cops.

You're teacher bashing.. I think you should pull this thead.. it's very unkind.. you're using very meam words..

 

[crabcake]

You've got to be kidding me.. teachers are taught NOT to even comfort kids in distress. that have been hurt on the poayground or bullied.. they are taught to put their hands behind their backs NOT to touch for ANY reason, and talk calmy and reassuringly.. A firm hand would have cost everyone involved their jobs, and probably an ensuing lawsuit.

which is precisely why I told my daughter she should kick any boy in the nuts who pushes her down on the playground again if the teacher doesn't do anything about it.

 

[Bert]

You're teacher bashing.. I think you should pull this thead.. it's very unkind.. you're using very meam words..

 

[Pegster710]

Send her my way - I have a knack with kids.

Kids that act like that are trying to communicate, they just don't know how to do it effectively so they pitch a frustration fit. Smacking them around doesn't work and calling the police is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You have to teach them to stop and think about what they're feeling, then teach them to express it effectively. Which is hard to do when you're frustrated as well and just really want to smack the #### out of them.

Those stupid teachers could really make a difference in that little girl's life if they put their minds to it. As it stands, they just want to chase her around, mouthing touchy-feely inanitites, then call the cops.

What message is being sent to the other children - who are behaving themselves? Why are the teachers stupid? They did EXACTLY what their training taught them to do. That training provided by the school board. The training that allows them to do what is "acceptable" to many of the parents... nothing more - or less.

 

[vraiblonde]

the teachers hands are tied, if she did ANYTHING she and the school would have been sued.. WHAT choice did they have?

That's the problem. But the teacher should have at least used her "authority" voice instead of this wimpy little "That's not how we do, honey " The little girl obviously has a chaotic home life or she wouldn't be acting like this, so you can count the mom out.

 

[itsbob]

which is precisely why I told my daughter she should kick any boy in the nuts who pushes her down on the playground again if the teacher doesn't do anything about it.

I've had to tell my now 14 year old the same thing.. told the school, the teacher, and the principal (in PA) about him getting bullied, after weeks of it continuing, I finally pulled my son aside and told him, if you want it to stop you will have to stand up for yourself.. your teachers aren't going to help.. well we got a call saying they were going to suspend hiim, found him in the hallway sitting on the bully's chest. Said Bully took a very special pencil from him, and he decided he wasn't going to take it anymore.. body slammed the bully into the floor, knees on his chest, etc... Teacher pulled them apart, bully was TERRIFIED..

Informed the school that I had warned them, ALL of them several times, if they insisted on suspending my son I would call a lawyer. Due to no action form them to protect my son, they really had no choice, but to not suspend him, and the bully nor anyone else, ever bothered hom again!!

 

[virgovictoria]

You're teacher bashing.. I think you should pull this thead.. it's very unkind.. you're using very meam words..

Well, if the child is a budding sociopath, this is the first glamour mark on her resume.. "Hell, I was cuffed by three cops at the age of five ~~ where did you expect me to go from there? muahahaha!"

Magic Eight Ball says "Outlook Does Not Appear Impressive"...

I would use a swift behavioral approach to negatively negate current trends - corporal punishment if needed and positive reinforcement for desired behaviors, then work towards cognitive issues and underlying possible mental concerns.

Don't ya'll hate it when I get real?

 

[vraiblonde]

I would have sedated her with a dart gun. And then kicked her azz when she woke up.

Larry will be faxing you an application for the position of Assistant Wife.

 

[crabcake]

That's the problem. But the teacher should have at least used her "authority" voice instead of this wimpy little "That's not how we do, honey " The little girl obviously has a chaotic home life or she wouldn't be acting like this, so you can count the mom out.

I have a feeling -- judging by the video -- that had the teacher whipped out her King Kong voice, it wouldn't have made a dang bit of difference with this kid.

 

[itsbob]

They actually did suspend the bully..

 

[somdcrab]

never thought i would be grateful one day for going to catholic school and being disciplined, but i am every time crap like this happens, a nun back in da day would of knocked some sense into the kid AND THE mom

 

[crabcake]

never thought i would be grateful one day for going to catholic school and being disciplined, but i am every time crap like this happens, a nun back in da day would of knocked some sense into the kid AND THE mom

I heard from a relative of mine who went to catholic school that they'd put your hands underneath the window sill in the winter and let 'er rip on your knuckles as one form of punishment. Sounds like that might've kept this brat from hitting anyone for awhile.

 

[BadGirl]

Larry will be faxing you an application for the position of Assistant Wife.

I've always wanted to be an Assistant Wife. I'll be on the lookout for Larry's application.

 

[Vince]

It's a dayum shame that our society has grown into a bunch of permissive parenting, liberal, politically correct idiots that won't punish their children when they do wrong. If the teacher spanked me in school my parents would ask why, and then I get punished at home as well. I've seen too much of the permissive parenting and the kind of children. Kids that talk back to their parents, I've even seen kids hit their parent/parents and the adult didn't lift a finger to stop it. UNbelieveable.

 

[itsbob]

Bob's right.

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