A Lesbian's Deliverance

[Marie]

lazy or uncaring would be my two guesses. Not in that order though.

You seriuosly dont believe that do you? The God that watches over sparrows and knows the number of each hair on our heads. The same God that seeks a relationship with us all throught history. The same God that paid our sin debt and loves us more than any of his other creatures even angels? The same God that does everything to bring honor and glory to him.
You were just being snide right?

 

[Xaquin44]

You seriuosly dont believe that do you? The God that watches over sparrows and knows the number of each hair on our heads. The same God that seeks a relationship with us all throught history. The same God that paid our sin debt and loves us more than any of his other creatures even angels? The same God that does everything to bring honor and glory to him.
You were just being snide right?

Cancer.
Homicide.
Rape.
Still born babies.
etc.
etc.

all could easily be stopped with a wave of his hand.

but he doesn't

If he has his reasons, fine.

Why not let us in on it?

and face it, there isn't anything to be learned from any of those experiences that we don't already know.

If he exists and still lets those things happen to good people then he's no better then anyone else and not worthy of my worship.

 

[fredcaudle]

Cancer.
Homicide.
Rape.
Still born babies.
etc.
etc.

all could easily be stopped with a wave of his hand.

but he doesn't

If he has his reasons, fine.

Why not let us in on it?

and face it, there isn't anything to be learned from any of those experiences that we don't already know.

If he exists and still lets those things happen to good people then he's no better then anyone else and not worthy of my worship.

"If he has his reasons, fine. Why not let us in on it?" ... you have to open your eyes to see what He has already done to let us know.

"If he exists and still lets those things happen to good people then he's no better then anyone else and not worthy of my worship." In a nutshell, this is your opinion of God... hopefully someone, somehow you will repent of this disrespect to God.

 

[Xaquin44]

"If he has his reasons, fine. Why not let us in on it?" ... you have to open your eyes to see what He has already done to let us know.

give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

 

[fredcaudle]

give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

Give me one good reason why God has to answer to you?

Do you not know where that child is? Do you think the child is better in the world or in heaven? Do you not know the comfort He gives those who believe in Him who loose loved ones? - where did God say (after man sinned) that this world would be a bed of roses? Where did God say we would not suffer? Have you ever asked why man has to kill, rape, steal, lie, and cheat and call these things "disorders" instead of sin? Have you ever asked why mankind would crucify God on the cross?

 

[Xaquin44]

Give me one good reason why God has to answer to you?

Do you not know where that child is? Do you think the child is better in the world or in heaven? Do you not know the comfort He gives those who believe in Him who loose loved ones? - where did God say (after man sinned) that this world would be a bed of roses? Where did God say we would not suffer? Have you ever asked why man has to kill, rape, steal, lie, and cheat and call these things "disorders" instead of sin? Have you ever asked why mankind would crucify God on the cross?

none of this is an answer to my statement.

First, you answer my question with an irrelevant question. I was asking you, not god.

Secondly, ok .... the child is now in heaven. That doesn't answer my question. My question was not 'where do still born babies go?', it was a statement: 'give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.'

Third, the child being in heaven is irrelevant too. If god wanted the child in heaven so badly, it is certainly within his scope to get it before birth.

Fourth, I never said god said this world would be a bed of roses .... also, that has nothing to do with the statement I made that you are currently evading.

The rest of your post also has nothing to do with the statement I made. You didn't even do a very good job evading the point.

so again, give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

 

[ItalianScallion]

give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

(Isaiah 57 v 1)

 

[fredcaudle]

none of this is an answer to my statement.

First, you answer my question with an irrelevant question. I was asking you, not god.

Secondly, ok .... the child is now in heaven. That doesn't answer my question. My question was not 'where do still born babies go?', it was a statement: 'give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.'

Third, the child being in heaven is irrelevant too. If god wanted the child in heaven so badly, it is certainly within his scope to get it before birth.

Fourth, I never said god said this world would be a bed of roses .... also, that has nothing to do with the statement I made that you are currently evading.

The rest of your post also has nothing to do with the statement I made. You didn't even do a very good job evading the point.

so again, give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

Because He is God and you are not.

 

[Xaquin44]

(Isaiah 57 v 1)

The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

None of those are reasons. They are just statements that very loosely pertain to the subject.

again, if god wanted the child in heaven so badly, it is certainly within his scope to get it before birth.

 

[Xaquin44]

Because He is God and you are not.

I never claimed I was (what are you talking about). Also, you have not given a reason.

If you don't have one, just say so.

 

[fredcaudle]

I never claimed I was (what are you talking about). Also, you have not given a reason.

If you don't have one, just say so.

Ok... I don't have a reason you will accept? God is God.

Now, why can't man stop stillborn babies?

 

[ItalianScallion]

give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

He might grow up with an attitude like yours.
Where did this attitude come from, especially since you said you went to church when you were younger? Who hurt you dude?
Apparently you think you know more than God and refuse to respect His authority and right to do as He sees fit. Why?

 

[Xaquin44]

Ok... I don't have a reason you will accept? God is God.

Now, why can't man stop stillborn babies?

If your answer is 'god is god', then I can very safely say that he is a god I would want no part of.

and man can't stop stillborn babies because we don't know how. If we did we would (apparently unlike god).

 

[Marie]

give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

Was the child going to die of cancer or going to come down with MS and God spared it the pain and suffering.

Were the parents going to be killed in a car accident and the child wind up in foster care being abused all its life?

We dont know, We cant understand the mind of God

 

[Xaquin44]

He might grow up with an attitude like yours.
Where did this attitude come from, especially since you said you went to church when you were younger? Who hurt you dude?
Apparently you think you know more than God and refuse to respect His authority and right to do as He sees fit. Why?

hahaha, that was the best response ever lol

It's not an attitude, but a severe questioning. I feel that if a person (or holy being) has the power to do good then he (or she or it) should use it or loose it.

I've never said I know more then god. If he came down from up on high and explained why stillborn babies are necessary then I would fall to my knees and beg forgiveness. However, since he won't (or hasn't at any rate) I'll look elsewhere for answers .... and since no one has given me a good reason then I'll have none of it.

'god is god' isn't a good reason .... it's a stand by.

 

[fredcaudle]

If your answer is 'god is god', then I can very safely say that he is a god I would want no part of.

and man can't stop stillborn babies because we don't know how. If we did we would (apparently unlike god).

So with the confession of your mouth you believe... What was your point? You have already determined you want no part of God. Just because I am not God and don't know all of His mind and ways does not make God non-existent.

You asked the question just to show the foolishness of God and those who believe.

1 Corinthians 1:19-20 (NIV) For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? Again, believe or don't... doesn't change the answers does it?

 

[Xaquin44]

Was the child going to die of cancer or going to come down with MS and God spared it the pain and suffering.

Were the parents going to be killed in a car accident and the child wind up in foster care being abused all its life?

We dont know, We cant understand the mind of God

again, since god knows all and what will happen (according to you), then he would be able to take the child before birth.

 

[Xaquin44]

So with the confession of your mouth you believe... What was your point? You have already determined you want no part of God. Just because I am not God and don't know all of His mind and ways does not make God non-existent.

You asked the question just to show the foolishness of God and those who believe.

1 Corinthians 1:19-20 (NIV) For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? Again, believe or don't... doesn't change the answers does it?

what are you talking about? I was asking the question to see if someone had a good answer.

 

[fredcaudle]

again, since god knows all and what will happen (according to you), then he would be able to take the child before birth.

you ever considered that He does this at times?

Have you ever considered God has already stopped some from being stillborn?

 

[fredcaudle]

what are you talking about? I was asking the question to see if someone had a good answer.

yeah, right.

God being God as all Sovereign and powerful has within His power to do as He pleases. What's not good about that answer? That is the definition of all-powerful and all-sovereign...