A Lesbian's Deliverance

FemmePrincess

New Member
Sorry Tommy, not true. YOU don't know any more about God than they do. The Bible is crystal clear about who God is. One God, revealed in 3 beings (persons) The Father, Jesus the Son & The Holy Spirit.
The JW's god is called Jehovah, one being and no more. Jesus was a created being but not Jehovah God to them and the Holy Spirit is a force and not God either. And you're right, they do have a different interpretation of the Bible but theirs is not consistent with other Scripture verses so they changed the wording to agree with their "interpretation". That's a :nono:
We've been through this many times before so say what you want but I won't keep talking on this topic for much longer since it is a repeat topic.:yay:

:shrug: I always thought Jesus was Jewish! :shrug:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
did you even read the idiocy you wrote in your last post? ironic, or more aptly moronic that you would then attack anyones debating skills :whistle:

Your name calling is the testimony to your inability to properly debate. Thanks for proving my point. JPC provides better discourse than either you or Xaquin44.

You both now join the list of the ignored. Bye.
 
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Xaquin44

New Member
Your name calling is the testimony to your inability to properly debate. Thanks for proving my point. JPC provides better discourse than either you or Xaquin44.

You both now join the list of the ignored. Bye.

ah yes .... I don't like their points because they question what I unfailingly believe and know that others should believe too .... so I will ignore them becuse I'm a scared little sissy.
 

tommyjones

New Member
ah yes .... I don't like their points because they question what I unfailingly believe and know that others should believe too .... so I will ignore them becuse I'm a scared little sissy.

Considering how much we post in here he wont have anybody to talk to.

We OWN this place now :HIGHFIVE:

bwhahahahaha, he showed us
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Considering how much we post in here he wont have anybody to talk to.

We OWN this place now :HIGHFIVE:

bwhahahahaha, he showed us

hahahaha

we still have Italianscallion and Fredcaudle (who I kind of like) to talk to.


and 2A compared us to JPC .... he's off his rocker (well they both are, but I was refering to 2A just then). I mean honestly lol
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Ok...

Well, you also can't control being a sinner - you ARE a sinner. But you're supposed to pray for strength to control yourself.

Not saying gay people are sinners, because I don't really care all that much. I don't believe in it, I just know how it's supposed to work. If someone was bothered by being gay and thought they were going to hell or something, then they should pray for the strength to not act on their impulses.

Or something like that.


...but that is where the base argument about homosexuality comes from, acting or not on impulses. Without exception, the gays I know, men and women, view the same sex the way a hetero views the opposite sex; they are attracted to them.

Homosexuality exists in nature. It makes sense that it's gonna exist in human beings to some extent. Do some people have issues that make them attracted to the same sex? Sure. Plenty of hetero's are attracted to other hetero's for screwed up reasons but that is a whole other issue.

Fact is, some people are naturally gay. Always have been, always will be. As a committed lesbian (I discovered this about myself and came 'out' at 13), I can not even begin to fathom what it must be like to wish and hope and pray that women don't turn me on.
 

FemmePrincess

New Member
A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:53 AM Learn to sign your karma - 2A or his gang.
A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:51 AM Learn to sign your karma. - 2A


Just because the "other guys" made you look like a fool today. You gang up on
me. You are no christian. Very sad A2! Gotta get your "gang" to do your
dirty work. :smack:
 

Tootaloo

New Member
Been there...

none of this is an answer to my statement.

First, you answer my question with an irrelevant question. I was asking you, not god.

Secondly, ok .... the child is now in heaven. That doesn't answer my question. My question was not 'where do still born babies go?', it was a statement: 'give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.'

Third, the child being in heaven is irrelevant too. If god wanted the child in heaven so badly, it is certainly within his scope to get it before birth.

Fourth, I never said god said this world would be a bed of roses .... also, that has nothing to do with the statement I made that you are currently evading.

The rest of your post also has nothing to do with the statement I made. You didn't even do a very good job evading the point.

so again, give me one good reason why god would make a child still born.

Lots of good questions. And I do believe that God wants us to ask them. Jacob wrestled with God. God promises us that if we really seek Him, we will find Him. Questions are good.

I lost two children to miscarriage and my sister had a stillborn child that died the very same day we lost our grandfather. Bad stuff happens. God never promised that believing him would put you on a never ending happy road. He did promise that we wouldn't walk it alone. And He promised that he would use the bad stuff to our ultimate good and His glory.

Why would God make a child still born? In my case, the baby did not have what it needed to survive. Plain and simple...cells didn't multiply as they should have. I've planted seeds in fertile ground, the sun shined down, I watered them...but they did not come up. Other seeds in the same bag thrived. The seed wasn't right. Did I do all I could to help it grow? Yep. And I can be angry and cry because one didn't come up or I can focus on the wild flowers that come up without having been planted...and the ones that came up beside the one that didn't. I choose peace. I choose to be happy for the crazy bubbling world all around me. (And the four kids I went on to have.)

My sister's baby strangled on the cord. Tragic. Definitely. Response: Named the baby after my grandfather and trusted that my grandfather is loving on that baby in heaven. Angry at God? Yep. For a bit...then she rested in the promise that His timing is perfect and that baby had a purpose...it thrilled my grandfather in the months he had left. He lovingly made a cradle...he spent joyous hours handrubbing wood for his first great grandchild to sleep in. As it turned out, he was the one who held the baby first...in heaven. My sister went on to have two children.

Life is a journey. Being a follower of Christ isn't about escaping pain on this earth...a very good friend of mine's husband has a horrible cancer. It is his second bout with horror as he had a different blood disorder when he was in his teens. The choose to live each moment, praying for a healing but absolutely knowing that should it not come, that tomorrow is as good as any day to begin eternity. If he gets there before her, he'll see her when she gets there.

I hope that helps answer your questions. It is difficult if you look at things from just our perspective...our timeline. God's timeline with us is a story that began in Genesis. It is an incredible love story that is has it's greatest jolt in the celebration of Christmas. I wish you a Merry Christmas.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:53 AM Learn to sign your karma - 2A or his gang.
A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:51 AM Learn to sign your karma. - 2A


Just because the "other guys" made you look like a fool today. You gang up on
me. You are no christian. Very sad A2! Gotta get your "gang" to do your
dirty work. :smack:

:killingme

Don't give unless you want to receive.

A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:38 AM For a christian I pity you! Love your neighbor as yourself! Judge least you be judged. Bad christian!

T'is the giving season. :lmao:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Now see...

Lots of good questions. And I do believe that God wants us to ask them. Jacob wrestled with God. God promises us that if we really seek Him, we will find Him. Questions are good.

I lost two children to miscarriage and my sister had a stillborn child that died the very same day we lost our grandfather. Bad stuff happens. God never promised that believing him would put you on a never ending happy road. He did promise that we wouldn't walk it alone. And He promised that he would use the bad stuff to our ultimate good and His glory.

Why would God make a child still born? In my case, the baby did not have what it needed to survive. Plain and simple...cells didn't multiply as they should have. I've planted seeds in fertile ground, the sun shined down, I watered them...but they did not come up. Other seeds in the same bag thrived. The seed wasn't right. Did I do all I could to help it grow? Yep. And I can be angry and cry because one didn't come up or I can focus on the wild flowers that come up without having been planted...and the ones that came up beside the one that didn't. I choose peace. I choose to be happy for the crazy bubbling world all around me. (And the four kids I went on to have.)

My sister's baby strangled on the cord. Tragic. Definitely. Response: Named the baby after my grandfather and trusted that my grandfather is loving on that baby in heaven. Angry at God? Yep. For a bit...then she rested in the promise that His timing is perfect and that baby had a purpose...it thrilled my grandfather in the months he had left. He lovingly made a cradle...he spent joyous hours handrubbing wood for his first great grandchild to sleep in. As it turned out, he was the one who held the baby first...in heaven. My sister went on to have two children.

Life is a journey. Being a follower of Christ isn't about escaping pain on this earth...a very good friend of mine's husband has a horrible cancer. It is his second bout with horror as he had a different blood disorder when he was in his teens. The choose to live each moment, praying for a healing but absolutely knowing that should it not come, that tomorrow is as good as any day to begin eternity. If he gets there before her, he'll see her when she gets there.

I hope that helps answer your questions. It is difficult if you look at things from just our perspective...our timeline. God's timeline with us is a story that began in Genesis. It is an incredible love story that is has it's greatest jolt in the celebration of Christmas. I wish you a Merry Christmas.

...that was sweet and thoughtful. Not one word of mankind's opinion of Gods judgment, fire nor brimstone nor of finger pointing or accusations or 'holier than thou' rhetoric.

That's the kind of God that I have no problem with; a God who just helps you carry on rather peacefully and serenely through life's ups and downs.

That was nice and Merry Christmas to you too even though I'm still an agnostic.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Lots of good questions. And I do believe that God wants us to ask them. Jacob wrestled with God. God promises us that if we really seek Him, we will find Him. Questions are good.

I lost two children to miscarriage and my sister had a stillborn child that died the very same day we lost our grandfather. Bad stuff happens. God never promised that believing him would put you on a never ending happy road. He did promise that we wouldn't walk it alone. And He promised that he would use the bad stuff to our ultimate good and His glory.

Why would God make a child still born? In my case, the baby did not have what it needed to survive. Plain and simple...cells didn't multiply as they should have. I've planted seeds in fertile ground, the sun shined down, I watered them...but they did not come up. Other seeds in the same bag thrived. The seed wasn't right. Did I do all I could to help it grow? Yep. And I can be angry and cry because one didn't come up or I can focus on the wild flowers that come up without having been planted...and the ones that came up beside the one that didn't. I choose peace. I choose to be happy for the crazy bubbling world all around me. (And the four kids I went on to have.)

My sister's baby strangled on the cord. Tragic. Definitely. Response: Named the baby after my grandfather and trusted that my grandfather is loving on that baby in heaven. Angry at God? Yep. For a bit...then she rested in the promise that His timing is perfect and that baby had a purpose...it thrilled my grandfather in the months he had left. He lovingly made a cradle...he spent joyous hours handrubbing wood for his first great grandchild to sleep in. As it turned out, he was the one who held the baby first...in heaven. My sister went on to have two children.

Life is a journey. Being a follower of Christ isn't about escaping pain on this earth...a very good friend of mine's husband has a horrible cancer. It is his second bout with horror as he had a different blood disorder when he was in his teens. The choose to live each moment, praying for a healing but absolutely knowing that should it not come, that tomorrow is as good as any day to begin eternity. If he gets there before her, he'll see her when she gets there.

I hope that helps answer your questions. It is difficult if you look at things from just our perspective...our timeline. God's timeline with us is a story that began in Genesis. It is an incredible love story that is has it's greatest jolt in the celebration of Christmas. I wish you a Merry Christmas.

Thanks for sharing. A Christ filled Christmas to you and yours.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Lots of good questions. And I do believe that God wants us to ask them. Jacob wrestled with God. God promises us that if we really seek Him, we will find Him. Questions are good.

I lost two children to miscarriage and my sister had a stillborn child that died the very same day we lost our grandfather. Bad stuff happens. God never promised that believing him would put you on a never ending happy road. He did promise that we wouldn't walk it alone. And He promised that he would use the bad stuff to our ultimate good and His glory.

Why would God make a child still born? In my case, the baby did not have what it needed to survive. Plain and simple...cells didn't multiply as they should have. I've planted seeds in fertile ground, the sun shined down, I watered them...but they did not come up. Other seeds in the same bag thrived. The seed wasn't right. Did I do all I could to help it grow? Yep. And I can be angry and cry because one didn't come up or I can focus on the wild flowers that come up without having been planted...and the ones that came up beside the one that didn't. I choose peace. I choose to be happy for the crazy bubbling world all around me. (And the four kids I went on to have.)

My sister's baby strangled on the cord. Tragic. Definitely. Response: Named the baby after my grandfather and trusted that my grandfather is loving on that baby in heaven. Angry at God? Yep. For a bit...then she rested in the promise that His timing is perfect and that baby had a purpose...it thrilled my grandfather in the months he had left. He lovingly made a cradle...he spent joyous hours handrubbing wood for his first great grandchild to sleep in. As it turned out, he was the one who held the baby first...in heaven. My sister went on to have two children.

Life is a journey. Being a follower of Christ isn't about escaping pain on this earth...a very good friend of mine's husband has a horrible cancer. It is his second bout with horror as he had a different blood disorder when he was in his teens. The choose to live each moment, praying for a healing but absolutely knowing that should it not come, that tomorrow is as good as any day to begin eternity. If he gets there before her, he'll see her when she gets there.

I hope that helps answer your questions. It is difficult if you look at things from just our perspective...our timeline. God's timeline with us is a story that began in Genesis. It is an incredible love story that is has it's greatest jolt in the celebration of Christmas. I wish you a Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you too =)
 

wxtornado

The Other White Meat
Lots of good questions. And I do believe that God wants us to ask them. Jacob wrestled with God. God promises us that if we really seek Him, we will find Him. Questions are good.

I lost two children to miscarriage and my sister had a stillborn child that died the very same day we lost our grandfather. Bad stuff happens. God never promised that believing him would put you on a never ending happy road. He did promise that we wouldn't walk it alone. And He promised that he would use the bad stuff to our ultimate good and His glory.

Why would God make a child still born? In my case, the baby did not have what it needed to survive. Plain and simple...cells didn't multiply as they should have. I've planted seeds in fertile ground, the sun shined down, I watered them...but they did not come up. Other seeds in the same bag thrived. The seed wasn't right. Did I do all I could to help it grow? Yep. And I can be angry and cry because one didn't come up or I can focus on the wild flowers that come up without having been planted...and the ones that came up beside the one that didn't. I choose peace. I choose to be happy for the crazy bubbling world all around me. (And the four kids I went on to have.)

My sister's baby strangled on the cord. Tragic. Definitely. Response: Named the baby after my grandfather and trusted that my grandfather is loving on that baby in heaven. Angry at God? Yep. For a bit...then she rested in the promise that His timing is perfect and that baby had a purpose...it thrilled my grandfather in the months he had left. He lovingly made a cradle...he spent joyous hours handrubbing wood for his first great grandchild to sleep in. As it turned out, he was the one who held the baby first...in heaven. My sister went on to have two children.

Life is a journey. Being a follower of Christ isn't about escaping pain on this earth...a very good friend of mine's husband has a horrible cancer. It is his second bout with horror as he had a different blood disorder when he was in his teens. The choose to live each moment, praying for a healing but absolutely knowing that should it not come, that tomorrow is as good as any day to begin eternity. If he gets there before her, he'll see her when she gets there.

I hope that helps answer your questions. It is difficult if you look at things from just our perspective...our timeline. God's timeline with us is a story that began in Genesis. It is an incredible love story that is has it's greatest jolt in the celebration of Christmas. I wish you a Merry Christmas.

Wow, rough stuff indeed. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas as well.
 

tommyjones

New Member
:killingme

Don't give unless you want to receive.

A Lesbian's Deliverance 12-18-2007 09:38 AM For a christian I pity you! Love your neighbor as yourself! Judge least you be judged. Bad christian!

T'is the giving season. :lmao:

or else 2ndA and all his MPD's will karma bomb you....

BTW, courage is not measured by signing your karma.Courage might be accepting others opinions as just that, and not being such a small minded person that you "ignore" anyone who counters your opinion.

2ndA is a wuss.

see, i said it out in the open, does that make me courageous?
 
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toppick08

Guest
or else 2ndA and all his MPD's will karma bomb you....

BTW, courage is not measured by signing your karma.Courage might be accepting others opinions as just that, and not being such a small minded person that you "ignore" anyone who counters your opinion.

2ndA is a wuss.

see, i said it out in the open, does that make me courageous?

Santa knows if you been good or bad.:smack:
 
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