Am I a sociopath?

[morganj614]

We should make the date of her death a National Holiday.

I am going to go enhance, not exaggerate my sexuality my gripe is the flag thing and the constant armchair news quarterbacking 24/7.
This is why I listen to music or silence when I get home

 

[Geek]

Seriously, I mean I really couldn't give two sh%ts about what happened at Virginia Tech. I didn't know any of them and frankly I don't much care about them. Seems they are getting a little too much attention if you ask me. Sh%t happens right? The shooter is dead, stop your sniveling and get over it.

I can't make those people un dead.
neither I, nor anybody, can stop a similar act in the future.

So it boils down to how it's going to affect me personally.

But the level of collective tear jerking going on is weakness. It's hollywood. It's voyurism. What it isn't is sympathy. It's daytime drama albeit real.

It's inappropriate. I didn't know anyone involved. But the media tells me, the politicians tell me, I should be grief stricken. I am not, even though quite capable of it having been shattered by personal losses several time.

I would NEVER have lowered the flag to half staff for a homicide.

No, I don't feel obligated to cry, show sorrow or light a candle. When I grieve, NOBODY can assist me. NOBODY can make it better for me. So I do it privately and request no assistance.

He knew what the sounds were. They haunted them at night. Still, all these years after hearing them, at night they come. In dreams, in nightmares. It always surprised him that the noise was not louder. Gunshots that end lives. Disappointing. The screams penetrate though. Always. They are what remain. The dull sound of a life ending in a crumple on the floor. One instant is all it takes to turn a person into a “body”. He had seen it all before. The horror crawled up his back and seeped into his soul. He had to remind himself to breath. Breath. Think. Please God think. And he looks up. The kids. These beautiful children. In a rush he sees the first day of classes. Fresh, scared students. Mothers putting on a thinly veiled face of bravery. As he sips his coffee on a bench he sees the women dissolve in their cars. He was always angry at them. You Fools. You will see your children again. You will hold them. Fold their laundry. It is just a few weeks until break. You waste your tears. He was always comparing them to the mothers that came back in his dreams. He watched their eyes die long before their bodies when their children were killed in front of them. Holocaust. The word is not horrible enough. Not long enough.
Another burst of shots. At 75 his body betrays him. He stumbles to the door. Just stand in front of the door. That’s the best he can do. In his younger years, you should have seen him. He would have grabbed a desk and charged. With his bare hands he could do damage. “Put your body here” He doesn’t here the words, but he feels them. The words replace the horror. They are warm, these words. And now he knows. He will try to stop the childrens’ mothers eyes from changing. This time, right here, will be his end. And his body. This body that aches in the morning and can’t lift nearly as much any more. He can give these children his body. He makes it to the door. Breathe. The sounds are closer now. His English fails him. He can not make the words to tell them to flee. To take this gift he is giving them. The gift of time. With his hands he sends them. With his eyes he sends them. Go. Please. Your life it is waiting for you. I will stand here, my children. I will take this pain. I will stand up as long as God lets me. One of the students is pulling at his arm. No, no I implore you. This is my job. I was told. Breathe. My child go and breathe for me. And then the pain. It comes. He sees the children dropping out the windows. Yes! I will stand here. I will take this for you. For you I will take this. And it is done. His last breath is ragged. His last thought is of his family. He hopes they understand that he was spoken to. That this was his job. He did it well.


This, of course, is my fictional account. Thor, feeling empathy is one of the first things we acquire as humans. It is what builds our personality. Not feeling the horror of what happened does not make you a sociopath. It does, however make you a pawn in a sociopath’s game. He is accomplishing another horror in your heart. Him and all the cowards before him. Columbine. The killer in the Amish school. They all win a little bit more when we fail to feel empathy for victims. You do not have to wear a hair shirt or cry for hours. But take a moment to feel the energy in the moment.

 

[Thor]

What that prof did was heroic, there is no doubt. Still does not change the fact that I have no vested emotional interest in the folks who were killed.

 

[Geek]

What that prof did was heroic, there is no doubt. Still does not change the fact that I have no vested emotional interest in the folks who were killed.

Is there ever a news story that you do have an emotional reaction to, besides 9/11?

 

[Thor]

Is there ever a news story that you do have an emotional reaction to, besides 9/11?

You know that's a good question, I get angry when I listen to liberals call into C-span, or when I hear a blantly bias piece on NPR does that count? Other then that no I can't say I get worked up about much except when someone is hurting children.

Actually, now that I think about it I do have an emotional investment in this VT thing. I am greatly concerned that the democrats will use this as some sort of an excuse to start banning guns again.

 

[Geek]

You know that's a good question, I get angry when I listen to liberals call into C-span, or when I hear a blantly bias piece on NPR does that count? Other then that no I can't say I get worked up about much except when someone is hurting children.

Actually, now that I think about it I do have an emotional investment in this VT thing. I am greatly concerned that the democrats will use this as some sort of an excuse to start banning guns again.

At what age do you know longer feel pity or get angry for hurting children? 10, 16, 18?

 

[Christy]

This, of course, is my fictional account. Thor, feeling empathy is one of the first things we acquire as humans. It is what builds our personality. Not feeling the horror of what happened does not make you a sociopath. It does, however make you a pawn in a sociopath’s game. He is accomplishing another horror in your heart. Him and all the cowards before him. Columbine. The killer in the Amish school. They all win a little bit more when we fail to feel empathy for victims. You do not have to wear a hair shirt or cry for hours. But take a moment to feel the energy in the moment.

This is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen pulled out of anyone's behind.

1. Where do you get that empathy is one of the first things we acquire as a human? I'd say newly minted humans are pretty self centered and are essentially parasites for the first years of their lives. :shrug:

2. Your analysis on becoming a pawn of a sociopath (moreso psychopath) is highly flawed (to say the least). Their purpose is to gain as much attention as possible. And YOU give it to them every time you go emotionally hysterical. The more attention these kooks get, the more other kooks want the same. So in essence, it is you and your ilk, that allow them to "win a little bit". Your flair for emotional drama feeds the beast per se'.

3. Taking a moment to "feel the energy in the moment" is a bit warped don't you think?

 

[Thor]

At what age do you know longer feel pity or get angry for hurting children? 10, 16, 18?

I suppose that's subjective. 18 is an adult in my book, frankly 17 is pretty much there too.

 

[PsyOps]

Self absorbed? I prefer practical.

In the end there is nothing you can do for those people.

Do me a favor... Next time you lose someone near and dear to your heart (mother, father, sibling, child...) let me know. I want to pass on to you my sincere "I don't give a s**t" to you.

 

[Geek]

This is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen pulled out of anyone's behind. Really? You need to get out more.

1. Where do you get that empathy is one of the first things we acquire as a human? I'd say newly minted humans are pretty self centered and are essentially parasites for the first years of their lives. :shrug: When teaching young kids it is one of the first things that helps enter you into society..ie... "Don't hit someone, it hurts, would you like it if they hit you?"
2. Your analysis on becoming a pawn of a sociopath (moreso psychopath) is highly flawed (to say the least). Their purpose is to gain as much attention as possible. And YOU give it to them every time you go emotionally hysterical. The more attention these kooks get, the more other kooks want the same. So in essence, it is you and your ilk, that allow them to "win a little bit". Your flair for emotional drama feeds the beast per se'. I have not been emotionally hysterical. I have been aware. I will be praying for the families involved. Whether I know someone on that campus or not, I refuse to be numb to the numbers. Over thirty people were killed in a school setting. I find it so horrific.

3. Taking a moment to "feel the energy in the moment" is a bit warped don't you think? No, I don't. I do think it is beyond you though.

my reply is in your quote

 

[Geek]

I suppose that's subjective. 18 is an adult in my book, frankly 17 is pretty much there too.

I am sure it has been asked but do you have people that you love more than yourself?

 

[MMDad]

What that prof did was heroic, there is no doubt. Still does not change the fact that I have no vested emotional interest in the folks who were killed.

Can you honestly say that you feel no empathy? You don't think "wow, that would suck?" If so, you seem like a cold, heartless SOB.

On the other hand, if you do feel some empathy, just not as much as the media tells you you "should" feel, you are probably more mentally healthy than those who are walking around for days mourning perfect strangers just because it was the news story of the day.

People are murdered every day in f***ed up ways, and I can feel some empathy for all of them. However, I will not feel more empathy for victims just because it is a national story. I essentially have two levels of emapathy: a low level caring for those who are anonymous to me, and a higher level for those i have a connection with. The media part of it has no bearing to me.

 

[vraiblonde]

I am sure it has been asked but do you have people that you love more than yourself?

You cannot love others unless you love yourself.

 

[vraiblonde]

On the other hand, if you do feel some empathy, just not as much as the media tells you you "should" feel, you are probably more mentally healthy than those who are walking around for days mourning perfect strangers just because it was the news story of the day.

Thank you - this is what I got from Thor's post. And, frankly, the way I feel about it myself.

OOOH!! I know what! We should give him a Voigt-Kampff test!

 

[Geek]

You cannot love others unless you love yourself.

Deep.

I love my kids more than myself. I would hope that I would have the courage to put myself in danger to save them from injury or death. I want to see if Thor feels that way about anyone.

 

[Nickel]

You cannot love others unless you love yourself.

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.

 

[Thor]

I am sure it has been asked but do you have people that you love more than yourself?

I am married and have children of course there are people who I love more then myself.

 

[Geek]

I am married and have children of course there are people who I love more then myself.

When your child turns 18, is ok with you if they are murdered in their college classroom?

 

[Thor]

Can you honestly say that you feel no empathy? You don't think "wow, that would suck?" If so, you seem like a cold, heartless SOB.

On the other hand, if you do feel some empathy, just not as much as the media tells you you "should" feel, you are probably more mentally healthy than those who are walking around for days mourning perfect strangers just because it was the news story of the day.

People are murdered every day in f***ed up ways, and I can feel some empathy for all of them. However, I will not feel more empathy for victims just because it is a national story. I essentially have two levels of emapathy: a low level caring for those who are anonymous to me, and a higher level for those i have a connection with. The media part of it has no bearing to me.

I believe I said when I saw it going down I was concerned, but after the fact and everyone is dead what good are my tears going to do?

 

[Thor]

When your child turns 18, is ok with you if they are murdered in their college classroom?

So I am guessing you missed the three or four posts where I used the term Emotional investment. I don't care how old my child is, if they are murdered or come to harm in anyway I'll be very upset. Now if someone elese child gets killed at 18 oh well, what can I do about that?