Am I just getting older or what????

Ehesef said:
Yeah I can see it a 1/4 mile away, but that doesn't mean that little Suzy 16-year-old or gramps is going to wait until I pass. I would rather not hit them at 75 if I can hit them at 55. Chances are a little better for survival.
:yeahthat: I also believe speed limits are set to stage a "traffic flow". Take Route 5 through Leonardtown, for example... the speed limit is 40 miles per hour. If everyone were to stay at that speed limit rather than zoom to reach the tail end of the next vehicle, it automatically leaves gaps in the traffic. This allows for vehicles to come into and go out of traffic. It also allows for safer judgement calls when you are the vehicle wanting to come into traffic. The road looks clear and you take the left from the hospital exit because you know the speed limit is 40 and you would be well on your way before the next vehicle should pop over the hill, but if that vehicle is speeding, you have no out and you had know way of knowing they were zooming towards you.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Ehesef said:
Yeah I can see it a 1/4 mile away, but that doesn't mean that little Suzy 16-year-old or gramps is going to wait until I pass. I would rather not hit them at 75 if I can hit them at 55. Chances are a little better for survival.

Darwin at work :yay: They teach you to wait a few seconds for a reason.
 

Ehesef

Yo Gabba Gabba
Chain729 said:
Darwin at work :yay: They teach you to wait a few seconds for a reason.
Ok, so when you hit these people crossing the road, the report will say "Speed was a factor" That's Darwinism for you. You are ignorant. Keep believing that everyone is at fault but you. Your obituary will inform us all of the truth.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
kwillia said:
:yeahthat: I also believe speed limits are set to stage a "traffic flow". Take Route 5 through Leonardtown, for example... the speed limit is 40 miles per hour. If everyone were to stay at that speed limit rather than zoom to reach the tail end of the next vehicle, it automatically leaves gaps in the traffic. This allows for vehicles to come into and go out of traffic. It also allows for safer judgement calls when you are the vehicle wanting to come into traffic. The road looks clear and you take the left from the hospital exit because you know the speed limit is 40 and you would be well on your way before the next vehicle should pop over the hill, but if that vehicle is speeding, you have no out and you had know way of knowing they were zooming towards you.

Chain729 said:
If you don't have a clear line of sight, due to whether, obstacles, SUV's, etc.; you slow down.

I consider a hill an obstacle, especially with a blind enterance/exit like that on the other side. I'm familiar enough with that section of road to know that the average speed through there of 55-60MpH is foolish.
 

Ehesef

Yo Gabba Gabba
Chain729 said:
I'm familiar enough with that section of road to know that the average speed through there of 55-60MpH is foolish.
Exactly. You're familiar enough. But what about my family visiting from NY or whatever? They aren't familiar enough with county roads and therefore don't know that doing the speed limit of 75 to 85 mph is suicide.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
Here's the law.....

http://www.sha.state.md.us/safety/oots/trafficsignalsandlaws/speedlimits3.asp

As described, speed limits typically are set for ideal conditions. Therefore, drivers must recognize and appropriately respond to adverse conditions. Maryland vehicle law requires that motorists drive at a reasonable and prudent speed and with a regard for existing and potential dangers. Motorists must adjust their speed according to the existing vehicle and pedestrian traffic, road surface, lighting, and weather conditions. Maintaining a safe speed at all times is a serious responsibility shared by all motorists.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Chain729 said:
The way the laws in MD are written, no. The speed limits are written to reflect the maximum safe speed in the rain, at night, with traffic. Other states realize this, so they say that in clear whether during the day you may drive faster (up to a certain speed) as long as 1) traffic allows for it and 2) you aren't driving in a reckless or negligent manner. Example: IMO, 55 Mph on the North end of 235 is a joke on a clear day without heavy traffic. I would consider 75 or even 85 Mph to be a safe speed as long as you aren't making sudden changes in direction or velocity, or weaving through traffic like an a**.

Sorry, but the speed limits are set considering good driving conditions, rain, darkness and traffic are things that should keep you driving under the speed limit. At least thats how it was explained in drivers ed.

and the other poster is right, 85 is way too fast considering all the side roads and no accelleration lanes on 235
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Ehesef said:
Ok, so when you hit these people crossing the road, the report will say "Speed was a factor" That's Darwinism for you. You are ignorant. Keep believing that everyone is at fault but you. Your obituary will inform us all of the truth.

They can say whatever they want. Legally, they're at fault for not yielding right of way. If you believe I lack the knowledge you have, share it. However, in this case the problem isn't a lack of knowledge, its an incongruence of perception.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Mikeinsmd said:
Here's the law.....

http://www.sha.state.md.us/safety/oots/trafficsignalsandlaws/speedlimits3.asp

As described, speed limits typically are set for ideal conditions. Therefore, drivers must recognize and appropriately respond to adverse conditions. Maryland vehicle law requires that motorists drive at a reasonable and prudent speed and with a regard for existing and potential dangers. Motorists must adjust their speed according to the existing vehicle and pedestrian traffic, road surface, lighting, and weather conditions. Maintaining a safe speed at all times is a serious responsibility shared by all motorists.

Thank you.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Ehesef said:
Exactly. You're familiar enough. But what about my family visiting from NY or whatever? They aren't familiar enough with county roads and therefore don't know that doing the speed limit of 75 to 85 mph is suicide.

Driving 75-85 Mph on the North end of 235 (hollywood up) is not suicide given good weather conditions and a driver that pays attention.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Chain729 said:
Driving 75-85 Mph on the North end of 235 (hollywood up) is not suicide given good weather conditions and a driver that pays attention.
Traffic rolls along up there at 75. Just my opinion, but a sound isolated, top heavy SUV or poor handling truck with someone yacking on their cell phone while fiddling with the radio is unsafe at any speed.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
aps45819 said:
Traffic rolls along up there at 75. Just my opinion, but a sound isolated, top heavy SUV or poor handling truck with someone yacking on their cell phone while fiddling with the radio is unsafe at any speed.

:lol: Too true.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Hot N Bothered said:
Did you know that in Maryland, exceeding 75 MPH is a minimum 5 point offense, regardless of what the posted limit is? It could be 45 or 65.

I'll have to look into that. Honestly, I think that's about as logical as trying to hot-glue butter to a hot teflon pan, or expecting a minimum wage employee to give a damn about their job or what a customer thinks.
 

janey83

Twenty Something
Chasey_Lane said:
Why was your father able to dictate when you rec'd your drivers license after age 18? :confused: Did he hold your education over your head?

b/c he's my dad and what he says goes. :shrug:
 
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