Amber Frey claims to read the Bible
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dems4me
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vraiblonde said:
Basically Pixie if you compare scripture in light of other scripture... basically the only unforgivable sin at death is the denial of Christ and not being a Christian at the time of death :shrug:
pixiegirl
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vraiblonde said:
That would be a HELL NO! I'm not anything or non-denominational if you will. I have a huge problem with organized religion and feel that most of it is somewhat cult-ish. I was raised Lutheran and Presbetyrian (sp?) and have gone to Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, Unitarian and other churches trying to find a niche but have been unsucessful.
I went to Ryken for half of my sophmore year and was forced to take a religion class. I got expelled.
It's because the concept of grace isn't linear. It's not as though you have to play this constant game of jumping through penance hoops to keep yourself "clean".pixiegirl said:
Let me put it THIS way: Would YOU forgive him, even knowing he had no chance to 'repent'? Would it be because you're bending the rules for his sake, or because, you love him and know him, deep down inside?
As I mentioned before, the concept of "you broke it, you pay for it" is the mistaken concept regarding grace that most people have, because it's the relationship we all have with people we don't know. With family, you can let debts go, because of your relationship to them.
Trying to keep yourself "spiritually clean" by repentance would be like keeping yourself physically clean while being continually sprayed with mud - you could NEVER keep up. It's not the action, but the state of the heart.
pixiegirl
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dems4me said:
Basically Pixie if you compare scripture in light of other scripture... basically the only unforgivable sin at death is the denial of Christ and not being a Christian at the time of death :shrug:
Ok and how would a small child be compitent to make such a choice?
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dems4me
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pixiegirl said:
Having been born with the Holy Spirit or the Holy Spirit from being baptized would overrule :shrug:
pixiegirl
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crabcake said:YOU? Nooooooo ...
Oh yes, but for even stupider reasons then you may think. I got caught not having my shirt not tucked in and smoking one too many times. While on suspension I had to write a so many word essay on why I should be allowed to stay.... Simply put... Because I paid good money to be here (and yes, I paid my own way just to get out of Charles County public schools). I was actually given the option to leave on my own and get a partial refund or be expelled.
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pixiegirl
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dems4me said:
My son is not baptized and to my understanding (thanks to 2A) a child gets christened (a blessing) and an adult gets baptized. My son isn't either. If he were standing before God would he be told "sorry, your mom screwed up by not getting you baptized so you go straight to hell."?
Did you read where those that have not heard will be judged on their life? I don't speak for God. The following is my opinion. I don't think God would reject a little child.pixiegirl said:
Sin is an act of rebellion against God. Jesus said,
I think you have your answer. What do you think?
dilettante
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pixiegirl said:
Pixiegirl... why didn't you like Charles County public schools?
I would tend to agree, but the Bible actually says the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.dems4me said:
Basically Pixie if you compare scripture in light of other scripture... basically the only unforgivable sin at death is the denial of Christ and not being a Christian at the time of death :shrug:
dilettante
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crabcake said:that's news to me. My brother, cousins and I were all baptized as babies, as was the DQ. I'm not pulling that term outta my backside; we discussed it with our Lutheran pastor in Arizona.
I agree. From my understanding, "christen" means to be baptized into a Christian Church kind of like you would christen a ship or something.
pixiegirl
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I would like to think the same is true. But to the best of my knowledge the bible doesn't give an exact answer. If a child sinned right before death or was a rotten disobiedent kid because he was allowed to get away with such things then would that child be rejected. I have a hard time swallowing the fact that ANY child would be rejected but to look at what the bible says in plain black and white one could/would come up with that assumption.2ndAmendment said:
2ndAmendment said:
I don't think that a child who has little to no knowledge of God can really rebell against him. As adults we have that comprehension. What about people with mental disabilities that have the mindset of a child and don't have the capacity to repent.
I'm not condoning sinners in the least nor am I saying that I don't repent for my sins. What I do question is the bible being so "black and white".
pixiegirl
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dilettante said:
There wasn't enough there for me. I was an extremely bright child and asked my parents at a young age to send me away to a bording school (can ya believe that one?
). But they didn't have the money for it. I was a great student until about 8th grade when school got boring. By the time I was a sophmore I didn't even go on a regular basis.
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dems4me
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2ndAmendment said:
Well I belive its a trinity like the shamrock... when you have sinned against one.. you have sinned against all three. Blasphemy is blasphemy
This is a point of misunderstanding, but not discussed but only from example in the Bible. A baby is christened which involves no decision on their part. It is a blessing of the child. Baptism requires a decision of the person being baptized. It is a conscience decision to repent of sin and accept God's gift of salvation. There is no case of babies being baptized in the Bible, only adults.crabcake said: