An open apology

[dazed&fallen]

You just proved my early point right here. You are trying to apply a rational argument against something that is not rational on the premise of physical evidence. If you are demanding physical evidence for God then you are right... God does not exist. You're looking in the wrong place.

You believe in Karma. How is it that Karma works? I know you claim it can be explained through math... but how is it that these causes and their effects happen in the way they do? Why is it the sun can emit so much energy and heat to keep this planet in a perfect temperature to maintain life? You can give me all the math you want to explain it, but it does not truly explain why. The math only satisfies your demand for a physical answer, but it does not truly explain why. Why when you throw a rock in the water it makes a splash? Sure you can go into all sorts of scientific explanations as to what’s happening, but that science does not explain why.

At a certain point in our understanding, we just accept that this is how our physical world operates. It’s not different with a Christian’s faith. The only difference is we don’t need all sorts of math to explain it to us. We accept that life is a result of an intelligent being we like to call God.

There is much we don't know. That's why people have formulated myths to explain things.

I am not disputing the existence of God. It's a moot point.

I am disputing the infallibility of the Bible remember?

 

[dazed&fallen]

Wait, what? Circular logic again. You believe in an irrational God. So who cares if people, that believe in the same god as you, decide to go to church and read the bible?

And if you don't need a religious forum, I am more than certain nobody here will miss you when you leave.

That's not the point. I might stick around because you find me so loathsome. I find the bible to be a narrow archaic reference that limits the capacity for human understanding of the world we live in. It's a public forum. If you don't like my posts, don't read them.

I refuse to quibble with you about the details of morality.

 

[PsyOps]

It's different then it was in Levitical Law. Trust me babe. We eat shellfish and we can dress how we like. I was referring to gender roles which are weakening in case you haven't noticed.

I know what you're talking about... no sense in getting crass. Is this some veiled proof that the Bible is fallible?

 

[Gwydion]

That's not the point. I might stick around because you find me so loathsome. I find the bible to be a narrow archaic reference that limits human capacity. It's a public forum. If you don't like my posts, don't read them.

I refuse to quibble with you about the details of morality.

I don't find you loathsome. I find you to be a terribly bad explainer and unable to form your own logical thoughts so you toss out a few rather uneducated posts then attempt to create something out of nothing.

I believe you to post the exact same thing over and over again, never actually saying anything and attempting to piss off people without a cause.

And nope, public forum so I will read your post and I will remind you every single time that you are believing in the very thing that you are arguing against.

The bible is irrational. So are your beliefs. If you can believe in one, others can believe in the other.

 

[PsyOps]

There is much we don't know. That's why people have formulated myths to explain things.

I am not disputing the existence of God. It's a moot point.

I am disputing the infallibility of the Bible remember?

They've also fomulated complex computations to explain things like the big bang and black holes; theories that are easily argued as myth.

If the Bible is a Myth then where does this leave us with God?

 

[dazed&fallen]

I know what you're talking about... no sense in getting crass. Is this some veiled proof that the Bible is fallible?

It's pretty much everywhere once you start to read. Men wrote the Bible with the needs of the state in mind. The state has changed, the Bible has not.

Read some Levitical law. It's a bit of an eye opener to say the least.

 

[dazed&fallen]

They've also fomulated complex computations to explain things like the big bang and black holes; theories that are easily argued as myth.

If the Bible is a Myth then where does this leave us with God?

God speaks to everyone differently. How do you know it's God? That's personal responsibility again. You have to use your judgement. The one God gave you.

 

[Gwydion]

I feel bad for people that believe their 2bit education makes them more knowledgeable about faith than people whom have faith.

That is my belief.

 

[PsyOps]

Pretty much everywhere once you start to read. Men wrote the Bible with the needs of the state in mind. The state has changed, the Bible has not.

Read some Levitical law. It's a bit of an eye opener to say the least.

Why would the Bible change since it is already written? It was written over a period of about 1800 years. Which state would you be referring to?

 

[dazed&fallen]

I feel bad for people that believe their 2bit education makes them more knowledgeable about faith than people whom have faith.

That is my belief.

As opposed to the 2 bit education you get in church? Gladly Sir.

 

[Gwydion]

As opposed to the 2 bit education you get in church? Gladly Sir.

On matters of religion and faith, I would rather have that be taken from a church or mosque or synagogue. I find it funny people waste money on such worthless degrees.

 

[dazed&fallen]

Why would the Bible change since it is already written? It was written over a period of about 1800 years. Which state would you be referring to?

It was written for political reasons. That's what I'm getting at. It's like that morbidly narrow British song "God save the King"

 

[Gwydion]

It was written for political reasons. That's what I'm getting at. It's like that morbidly narrow British song "God save the King"

What political party?

 

[PsyOps]

God speaks to everyone differently. How do you know it's God? That's personal responsibility again. You have to use your judgement. The one God gave you.

When I am around other Christians that have similar experiences, I know it's the same God. There's nothing irresponsible about that. In fact it all-the-more confirms God for me, if that were even possible.

 

[dazed&fallen]

On matters of religion and faith, I would rather have that be taken from a church or mosque or synagogue. I find it funny people waste money on such worthless degrees.

I didn't even tell you what my degree was in friend. Visual Communications Design. I wanted to know about world religions from a non biased perspective.

It's difficult to be non biased but some are better at it than others.

 

[dazed&fallen]

When I am around other Christians that have similar experiences, I know it's the same God. There's nothing irresponsible about that. In fact it all-the-more confirms God for me, if that were even possible.

What you feel is a pooling of emotional energy that manifests itself through worship and sublime expression.

You needn't be in church to feel this. Any group will suffice.

 

[Gwydion]

I didn't even tell you what my degree was in friend. Visual Communications Design. I wanted to know about world religions from a non biased perspective.

It's difficult to be non biased but some are better at it than others.

Oh, sorry, I don't get influenced by biases, I opt to hear the people that actually understand their own practice explain something to me then allow myself to determine which, if any, I am influenced by the most.

PS. Congrats on being able to make a flyer look pretty.

 

[Gwydion]

What you feel is a pooling of emotional energy that manifests itself through worship and sublime expression.

You needn't be in church to feel this. Any group will suffice.

And the fact that she found it in the church....?

People claim that a church is not the building but the people inside.

 

[dazed&fallen]

Oh, sorry, I don't get influenced by biases, I opt to hear the people that actually understand their own practice explain something to me then allow myself to determine which, if any, I am influenced by the most.

PS. Congrats on being able to make a flyer look pretty.

I can do a lot of things that would probably surprise you. Let's stick to the subject eh?

 

[Gwydion]

I can do a lot of things that would probably surprise you. Let's stick to the subject eh?

Posters too? Awesome! Public forum, remember?