Bible contradictions?
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Uh huh. That's okay - you can deny it all you want but everyone on this forum who knows you is laughing.crabcake said:
Glass houses and all...
itsbob
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Well, I somewhat agree.. but when any religion says they are the only TRUE religion, and all others sould be cast out.. or are lesser beings.vraiblonde said:
That's kinda the driving force behind "kill the infidels"
it breeds hatred and contempt.. it was Christians who killed 6 million Jews... and it started as "talking"
crabcake
But wait, there's more...
vraiblonde said:
Peanut? 
I'm not trying to attack religion; I stand by my first post in this thread where I stated that I view the insistence that there is only "one god" as unaccepting of other's beliefs, and that it's not promoting any sort of acceptance of how people are different, and I provided examples as to why I saw it that way. I further (in the past and still) maintain that anyone who is REALLY trying to spread a message of christianity isn't going to get very far by using a "holier than thou" or "my way or the highway" sentiment. Let's be real here ... the only reason (I see) to "spread the message" is to get others on board that belief system. People like me (who struggle with those beliefs) are the targets, are they not? Well, the target is telling the shooter, "Hey, hey, I'm over here and I like this kinda bullet!", but the shooter is aiming in a whole other direction using an arrow. Not very productive, wouldn't ya say? :shrug:
It was Nazis that killed 6 million Jews. History is your friend. Just because someone calls themselves by the name Christian does not mean the really have a relationship with Jesus and are a Christian. I could call myself Bob but it would not be true.itsbob said:
Actually it was Nazis who killed 6 million Jews, not Christians. There was no worldwide Christian jihad against Jews.itsbob said:
Yes you do. True Christians know they are just sinners saved by the grace of God.itsbob said:
itsbob
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WHAT exatly were the Nazis?? Nazis are similar to a politcal party... if they weren't Jews.. nor were they Muslim.. what were they?? They were Germans first, and Germans as you know are predominantly Catholic.. Catholics ARE Christians.. as are Protestants.. and Baptists.. and, this should start some crap.. even MORMONS!!vraiblonde said:
Uh huh.crabcake said:
You could add more to the conversation if you had ever actually read the Bible and were familiar with it. And don't say you have, because you wouldn't ask so many stupid questions and say so many ignorant things if you had.
And I'm glad I'm not a Christian because I can say whatever I want without the likes of you pouncing on me and going, "Uh uh uh! Not very Christian-like of you
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itsbob
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but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian Bible. Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and Providence but also Fate, Social Darwinism, and ideological politics. He spoke, unashamedly, about God, fanaticism, idealism, dogma, and the power of propaganda. Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
itsbob
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Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.)
The Nazis were a political party. Made up of predominantly Christians, more than likely, but religion had no bearing on their actions. Hitler didn't say "We do this in the name of God." He said, "We do this in the name of Aryan purity and ethnic cleansing." He might have tossed God's name in there just to get the sheep in line, but religion was not his motivation in bringing about the Holocaust.itsbob said:
itsbob
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"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
