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[Xaquin44]

We've been through this before....

If it is one gene, then it's safe to say it is a birth defect.

like black hair or blue eyes or big ears or or or or or or or

 

[bcp]

We've been through this before....

If it is one gene, then it's safe to say it is a birth defect.

thats was my next post to take care of.

and yes, if it is a gene, then that gene causes the person to act outside of the realms of normal human instinct, then it is a defect.

and if the funding is to continue, or be supplied, then it must be understood that if a cause is found, it will be treated as a defect no differently than any other birth defect.
however, once found maybe a cure can be put into place.

 

[Xaquin44]

Im not pointing to archaic and bigoted Bible verses.
I am however pointing to that science that you are so hung up on and simply pointing out that your science has failed to prove your theory that it is not an illness, or it is not a choice.

we already know it isn't a choice.

 

[bcp]

I've never been able to figure out why people care what other people do with their junk.








And by junk, I mean genitals.

I dont think anyone really does care. I dont.
you can play house with all the same sex partners you want, it does not devalue my life in the least.

however, once somebody decides to force me to accept it, and forces me to support it with tax dollars, then it does become my concern.

 

[bcp]

like black hair or blue eyes or big ears or or or or or or or

or, or, or, Downs syndrom or Autism or, or, or.

 

[bcp]

we already know it isn't a choice.

no, we dont.

and, if it is not a choice, then it is only safe to assume that it is something genetic that should be able to be located.

 

[Xaquin44]

no, we dont.

and, if it is not a choice, then it is only safe to assume that it is something genetic that should be able to be located.

yes we do. When did you make your choice?

I'm sure it is something genetic .... like blue eyes and dark skin and thin hair etc etc etc.

 

[bcp]

yes we do. When did you make your choice?

I'm sure it is something genetic .... like blue eyes and dark skin and thin hair etc etc etc.

No we dont.

science has proven nothing.

 

[Xaquin44]

then since you seem to know it's a choice, when did you make yours?

I mean the choice between loving men and women?

when did you find both attractive and choose one or the other?

 

[bcp]

yes we do. When did you make your choice?

I'm sure it is something genetic .... like blue eyes and dark skin and thin hair etc etc etc.

you know, since you mention it,
In 1981 or close to it, a rump ranger suggested that he and I run off together for the evening, it was at a bar by the name of Lancers in Norfolk.

I beat him with the bar stool.
not so much for the question but, more so because he put his hand on my pants in the general location of the tool box if you know what I mean.

I suppose one could call that my moment of choice.

so, the options were presented, and I made my choice somewhere in the year of 1981.

 

[bcp]

then since you seem to know it's a choice, when did you make yours?

I mean the choice between loving men and women?

when did you find both attractive and choose one or the other?

since you seem to know its not a choice, please direct us to the scientific proof showing a difference anywhere that would cause it to be natural born.

 

[Xaquin44]

you know, since you mention it,
In 1981 or close to it, a rump ranger suggested that he and I run off together for the evening, it was at a bar by the name of Lancers in Norfolk.

I beat him with the bar stool.
not so much for the question but, more so because he put his hand on my pants in the general location of the tool box if you know what I mean.

I suppose one could call that my moment of choice.

so, the options were presented, and I made my choice somewhere in the year of 1981.

so up until then you found both men and women equally attractive?

at least now I guess I know where your homophobia stems from.

 

[Xaquin44]

since you seem to know its not a choice, please direct us to the scientific proof showing a difference anywhere that would cause it to be natural born.

answer me first.

In fact, I challange anyone to answer it.

 

[bcp]

so up until then you found both men and women equally attractive?

nope, but then, I dont suffer from a mental illness, and if I did, I would hope that someone would work on a cure

 

[Xaquin44]

nope, but then, I dont suffer from a mental illness, and if I did, I would hope that someone would work on a cure

so it wasn't a choice. Thank you.

now point me to where being gay is different geneticly from having green eyes or black hair.

 

[bcp]

answer me first.

In fact, I challange anyone to answer it.

Wow powerful and convincing.

ok, I challange anyone to prove beyond a doubt that it is scientifically proven that homosexuality is a choice, and is caused by some "Natural" deviation in the makeup of the body.

I say its either a choice, or a birth defect.

so, I guess some people just find the backside of sheep attractive and make no choice in the matter?

 

[Xaquin44]

Now, bcp, lets look at your 'disease' or 'mental illness' theory.

Disease: a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.

look at those last few parts illness; sickness; ailment. All things that harm the body or mind. Gay people do not suffer from anything. They have no medical conditions to speak of. Their life expectancy matches anyone elses and their brains function exactly like everyone elses. No amount of testing has ever found anything to suggest that homosexuality is anything other than natural.

 

[Xaquin44]

Wow powerful and convincing.

ok, I challange anyone to prove beyond a doubt that it is scientifically proven that homosexuality is a choice, and is caused by some "Natural" deviation in the makeup of the body.

I say its either a choice, or a birth defect.

so, I guess some people just find the backside of sheep attractive and make no choice in the matter?

I've already proven your 'choice' theory to be wrong, so you can stop bringing it up any time. as for your 'birth defect' theory, there is no evidence pointing to that.

 

[bcp]

Now, bcp, lets look at your 'disease' or 'mental illness' theory.

Disease: a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.

look at those last few parts illness; sickness; ailment. All things that harm the body or mind. Gay people do not suffer from anything. They have no medical conditions to speak of. Their life expectancy matches anyone elses and their brains function exactly like everyone elses. No amount of testing has ever found anything to suggest that homosexuality is anything other than natural.

thanks for proving it is an illness.


and, you might want to check your facts on the life expectancy, it seems that unless they choose to live celibate, their expectancy is 20 years less that of a hetero.

and, no amount of testing has found that homosexuality is not a defect.

So, either it is a defect and should be treated as such, or its a choice.

 

[bcp]

I've already proven your 'choice' theory to be wrong, so you can stop bringing it up any time. as for your 'birth defect' theory, there is no evidence pointing to that.

you have not proven the choice theory to be wrong to anyone but yourself.