It's a choice just like any other choice. They can choose to give in to their illness, or they choose not to make fudgesickles. It's as simple as that.
Boy Scouts and Gay Rights Again.........
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It's a choice just like any other choice. They can choose to give in to their illness, or they choose not to make fudgesickles. It's as simple as that.
bcp
In My Opinion
All clubs have rules that must be followed by the members.
In the boy scouts its pretty much a rule that you can not secretly desire to wear a bikini and pet your buddies butt at the swim meet.
I bet a bowling team would stop me from playing if I insisted on using a basketball instead of a bowling ball.
Xaquin44
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when did you choose to be hetero?
what day did you say to yourself 'that girl is hot, but so is that guy .... but which to get with?'
I can choose to be celebate. That's the point I'm making. I'd like to eat steak 3 times a day, but I don't. Another choice. Hmmm.....
bcp
In My Opinion
Illness. Mental illness.
If he is not suffereing from a mental illness as such, maybe he did not have to make that choice.
I have long stated that it is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Funding is needed to cure these people.
Xaquin44
New Member
It's cool .... avoid my point because you know that you're wrong. It's alright.
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toppick08
Guest
Commandment #5: Honor your FATHER and your MOTHER.
Funny, God doesn't speak of father and father, or mother and mother. Here's your sign.
BTW, I got plenty of "monay" mr. red. 
bcp
In My Opinion
then, back to the mental illness. no different from the person that is mentally ill that chooses to kill
bcp
In My Opinion
and, no test on earth will find that it is not a mental illness.
No test on earth....
you know, not too many years ago no test on earth could prove there was brain function at all.
What the eff is your point? This is all conjecture. How am I wrong saying it's a choice? You choose to participate in crude behaviour or you don't.
Xaquin44
New Member
Commandment #5: Honor your FATHER and your MOTHER.
so?
If your parents get a divorce you don't have to honor the person your mother or father remaries because they aren't your mother?
what about adoptive parents?
Xaquin44
New Member
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
Research is still ongoing, however scientists who are allowed to continue with their research without their funding disappearing, believe it's not just "one" gene.
Is there a homosexuality gene?
And since nobody likes to click my links:
"During the past several decades, scientists have discovered some interesting patterns that may point toward genetic causes of homosexuality. Among the findings is that male homosexuality appears to be inherited more often from the mother than the father (Pillard). Also, natural selection might maintain a gene that may decrease the fecundity of one sex because the same gene also increases the fecundity of the other sex. In fact, recent data shows that female maternal relatives of gay men have higher than average reproduction capacity (Camperio-Ciani). "
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"Gavrilets and Rice identify two main factors that may explain the polymorphism of a gene (and how the gene spreads): overdominance and sexual antagonism. Overdominance refers to phenotypes that come from heterozygous genes, and the advantages promoting genetic variation. Sexual antagonistic traits are those that are advantageous in one sex, but may cause homosexuality in the other sex. For a variety of different gene inheritance patterns, the scientists provide mathematical models that require, in essence, that the benefits for one sex must outweigh the costs for the other sex."
Here's additional research articles on this subject:
CAT.INIST
http://www.tiem.utk.edu/~gavrila/PAPS/h.pdf
Mother
Here's one more piece of information:
Homophobia (from Greek ὁμο homo(sexual), "same, equal" + φοβία (phobia), "fear") is a non-clinical term[3][4] used to describe the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.[5][6] It can also mean hatred, hostility, disapproval of, or prejudice towards homosexuals, or homosexual behavior or cultures.[7] Homophobic is the adjective form of this term used to describe the qualities of these characteristics while homophobe is the noun form given as a title to individuals with "homophobic" characteristics.
Footnote 4 of Merriam Webster dictionary's definition defines homophobia as "irrational fear".
We've been through this before....
If it is one gene, then it's safe to say it is a birth defect.
bcp
In My Opinion
Im not pointing to archaic and bigoted Bible verses.
I am however pointing to that science that you are so hung up on and simply pointing out that your science has failed to prove your theory that it is not an illness, or it is not a choice.
Toxick
Splat
Sure there would.
Although I don't believe that's it. A friend of mine who is gay has a brother and a sister neither of which is gay. They all lived in the same household, and (from what I could tell) they were all treated by their parents the same. So...
I don't believe that being gay is a choice, but neither do I believe it's genetic or otherwise "natural" (in a nature vs. nurture sense)... For the simple fact that there is no evolutionary purpose for members of a species to be sexually attracted to mates with which they cannot reproduce.
It is, in fact, evolutionary suicide.
I'm not sure what dictates sexual preference among humans, but since I didn't choose to be a heterosexual (although I enjoy being one), I don't believe that anyone chooses to be homsexual either (although they may enjoy it).
Perhaps it's some base mechanism which relies on a trigger of some form... the way some people develop a foot fetish, or favor breasts over buttocks, or favor silk lingerie over latex bodysuits. It could a trigger as simple as which parent the baby sees nekkit first.
But who cares.
I've never been able to figure out why people care what other people do with their junk.
And by junk, I mean genitals.