Buell opinions?

dustin

dustin

UAIOE
busas are pretty sweet... its a shame they get the bad rap that they do.

i think i've seen one before with hard bags. different pipe(s) i'm sure though.
 
Pete

Pete

Repete
Larry Gude said:
Yup.

I asked what happens when you lose it and he said "We give you and extra". I should have asked him what happens when you lose THAT one or it breaks or just fails.
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ylexot said:
Probably similar to BMW...if I lose my key, I have to get a new one from the dealer and they have to program the bike to accept it. The bike can accept up to 10 different keys. If you lose more than that, you have to have the computer replaced!
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Mine has a separate fob and a proximity alarm. If the fob is more than 15-20 feet away from the bike it wont start.

Since Harleys don't require a key IF you happen to toss the keys on the work bench in the garage then start it and ride off leaving the key at home once you shut it off it will not start. :whistle:

BUT! There is a way to enter a bypass code to get it started in emergency.
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

Strung Out
dustin said:
busas are pretty sweet... its a shame they get the bad rap that they do.
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Two of the things they worked on with us in class were;

One was the physical, the margin of safety you can control via allowing more space and time as circumstances change. You can't control the conditions or what other drivers do nor can you control a ball or kid jumping into your path. You can adjust speed and spacing.

The other was the safety margin you have in terms of equipment. You can't adjust your skill and experience level at a given moment. You can have the equipment to stop or go more effectively.

Because it is so docile on top of all that hp, the Hayabusa covers the ability to gtf out of the way about as good as it's gonna get while avoiding putting you in constant trouble to begin with that a less manageable bike may do.

:buddies:
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

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aps45819 said:
:fixed:
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Controllable acceleration.

I took a 45 minute shower, like a pre game or something, getting relaxed and getting my head on straight before my first ride on it. I was worried that it was going to be like my YZ only with 175 hp; one instant you are thinking about twisting, the next minute, you are holding on for dear life wondering no more where 'whiskey throttle' comes from.

I am still stunned how smooth it is. Even as you get up in it, it's still linear, it doesn't just suddenly go from 1 to 10. It is very much 1, 2, 3, 4 and so forth.

So, when we gonna go see Stonewall's spare parts? :buddies:
 
Larry Gude

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Well, THAT was a short Sunday evening ride! :lol: Almost made it to the interstate and the horizon disappeared, turned around before I got soaked, went home. Now, thunder and lightning. And here I thought I could get East ahead of this one, wait it out, eat dinner, come home later.

:shrug:
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

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Pete said:
I told you so. If you got a 650 you would hate it within 6 months. Now Mr. "You street riders are crazy" went from full tilt from looking at a Wee Strom to a Busa.
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I give you all due credit :notworthy:

That said, I have not ridden a 650 on the highway as of yet. I mean, I suppose it can guess it may be...lacking...next to 175 hp?

:lol:
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Larry Gude said:
I give you all due credit :notworthy:

That said, I have not ridden a 650 on the highway as of yet. I mean, I suppose it can guess it may be...lacking...next to 175 hp?

:lol:
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Sure, but maybe not as much as you might think......

Picked up my Wee today, first impressions coming off a BMW GT - Stromtrooper.com

A few days ago I posted about switching from an 06 BMW GT to a Strom 650. I ended up buying a K9 with 500 miles on it from a forum member here and I just picked it up today and rode for a couple hours, a mixture of twisties, long straights, and goat trails. First impressions- two thumbs up . Amazing fun. I still can't get over how such a modest displacement engine can be so capable. Coming off a 150+ HP BMW, I felt no lack of power except passing cars where it lacked the 2-second passing ability of the bigger bike. Not a big deal.
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Now, there is even a 25hp difference from the other bike in question to the Busa, but this bears thinking about. As for the 2 second pass, the Wee is about a 3-3.5 second pass.
 
Larry Gude

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glhs837 said:
Sure, but maybe not as much as you might think......

Picked up my Wee today, first impressions coming off a BMW GT - Stromtrooper.com



Now, there is even a 25hp difference from the other bike in question to the Busa, but this bears thinking about. As for the 2 second pass, the Wee is about a 3-3.5 second pass.
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Hey, I'd ride one tomorrow to check it out! It's not like I ride the Hayabusa anywhere near what it can do. It's just the margin for error it gives me now as an inexperienced rider that I really like. And it's big and it feels heavy and stable which I am liking. Maybe I'd feel the same way on a 650?

Interesting thing the 'busa taught me right away. The test has a question and the book has it in there and the instructors went over it; press right, lean right, go right. Press on the left side of the bar, lean left, go left. The instructors called it 'look right, press right, lean right, go right" etc.

That makes me think of counter steering which is what you often do on a dirt bike. If you 'press' on the left side of the bar, the handlebars turn to the right and you lean left and go left presuming you are hammering it and the front end is up a bit.

I could NOT get what they meant for street. If you 'press' on the left side, doesn't it also go right? Well, the little bikes, to me, it wasn't clear. Got that one wrong on the learner test and the final. Just not clear in my mind.

On the Hayabusa, it all made sense. If you 'press' on the left grip, it does, in fact, turn the bar left because if you press, it is going DOWN. :lol:

And now, it all makes sense. It's just that you don't 'press' down on dirt bikes, at least not so clearly.

:stupid:
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
I think that's becuase of two things. Wheel weight and speed. You are dealing with a gyroscope, really. If you ever worked on your bicycle as a kid, you played with this effect. Ever hold a bicycle wheel by the axles and spin it? Then try and turn the wheel? How it reacted depended on your input. And how fast it was spinning.

Your dirtbike, that front wheel weighs very little, the little bike you used for the course, not much bigger, and you most likely never went that fast. The busa, that front wheel weighs a lot, and you were at speed. Gyro effects are magnified by both speed and weight.
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

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glhs837 said:
I think that's becuase of two things. Wheel weight and speed. You are dealing with a gyroscope, really. If you ever worked on your bicycle as a kid, you played with this effect. Ever hold a bicycle wheel by the axles and spin it? Then try and turn the wheel? How it reacted depended on your input. And how fast it was spinning.

Your dirtbike, that front wheel weighs very little, the little bike you used for the course, not much bigger, and you most likely never went that fast. The busa, that front wheel weighs a lot, and you were at speed. Gyro effects are magnified by both speed and weight.
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:buddies: Yup.

The magic moment for me understanding how bikes worked was learning about trail in a dirt bike mag and that stability in the front comes from propulsion from the rear.
 
Larry Gude

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itsbob said:
:yeahthat:

Waterproof liner you still have 30 pounds of wet jacket, and in the summer it's like wearing a parka.

Larry,

I don't see any venting on that jacket.. it looks like it would get REAL hot in the summer.

EDIT: I see they do talk about venting, but it still looks like a HOT jacket.
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So far, I love it with the liner out. Of course, it ain't been hot yet. I got 2xl and it's a tad long in the sleeve which is great for me because I am an ape and items are typically short in the sleeves for me. It's a bit roomy, but just a bit, with a t shirt but, I am totally comfortable in it and don't feel restricted when turning to look back and it isn't acting like a sail at speed.

Now, pants with knee and hip armor and boots that don't look like Peter ####ing Pan. :lol:

:buddies:
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
I was a self taught rider, literally, I knew not one person who rode. First bike came home on a truck from the dealership (GS450E),

View Photos of a 1981 Suzuki Gs450e for sale in Bettendorf, Iowa - CycleTrader.com

and I, who didn't even have any experience with manual transmission cars, played with it on the side street next to the house. Put maybe 3,00 miles on it in a year, trips to Maine and VT from home in Ma. Never heard of counter steering til I met a guy in the Navy who was a sport bike guy.

Then I rode that thing from MA to FL for aircrew school, then out to San Diego for SERE, then up to the Bay area for my first duty station. Learned a LOT. Took the MSF a few years later, learned a lot more.
 
glhs837

glhs837

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Larry Gude said:
:buddies:

Pants?
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I know I need pants, but changing is a pain. %99 of my riding, I end up places where I would have to change out of riding pants. But I agree on the mesh jacket. Love the heck out of mine, which I got from newenough.com

above 75, its just the mesh, and man, is it cool. Below that, I zip in the warm liner. With a tee shirt, long sleeve shirt, and the jacket, I'm good down to the 55 range. Could ride colder, but not too enjoyable.
 
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