glhs837
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Sounds like Country Lakes. My wife grew up there.
Local Business Charlotte Hall- Do you want them to build apartments there???
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Sounds like Country Lakes. My wife grew up there.
Apartments on PF Blvd?
Do you mean the building at Chapline Place before you get to Weiss (used to be Food Lion)?
Those are age-restricted and are for elderly people. (Not sure of the age you must be to get in, though)
Oh. I heard ya. I just don't agree with you. First, "I" am not designating anything, the county has made the designation of CH as a town center. You relate apartments, population density, and income into drawing nice things. Your selling...I'm not buying. You can build nice things and price out nonsense. You don't start by taking a place that is nothing more than string of fastfood, banks, and liquor stores...add high density housing and expect good things.
glhs837
Power with Control
And I'm saying you wont get a P.F Changs, or whatever you consider "nice" sit down without the sort of density that comes along with apartments and other high density housing. Those towns you listed as nice places to live with nice things have ten times the population density of Charlotte Hall. You can try and use zoning to only allow FCTRT approved businesses, but if nobody see's a profit to be made, you will end up with nothing at all. Do you think those places don't have fast food joints and liquor stores? Sure they do, they just kept them off the already developed main drag through town. Since CH never really had a developed main drag, there was no impediment.
? All of the things you listed would be built with private money by entrepreneurs/investors who decided the risk/reward worked out. So if none of those do get built...none of those are being built...pretty easy to figure out why not.
BusinessTime
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Well this was my thoughts exactly. Looking at the location, it would be surprising not to have some better dining options, grocery etc. My understanding is that the resistance to public water/sewer infrastructure has been the stumbling block. The County determines that and with all the push back in recent years including the most recent co commissioner election, I guess it won't be coming if O'Connor can find some way to re-classify the town center status
Ah..that makes sense..yeah, without that kind of critical infrastructure, things don't happen.
NorthBeachPerso
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Y'all are missing the elephant in the room. The State of Maryland is driving a lot of this. Jurisdictions get rewarded for allowing high density housing and penalized for the type of upscale single family housing a couple of you want.
I don't know for sure but I'll bet that Charlotte Hall is in Tier 2 for water and sewer, which means it's coming. If it doesn't then there will be no State money for the infrastructure that will be needed to service that area. And make no mistake, there will be roads, sidewalks and schools needed. Especially schools unless the high density is age restricted.
Abortions like Dunkirk in Calvert, with no water and sewer, ain't happening any more.
I don't know for sure but I'll bet that Charlotte Hall is in Tier 2 for water and sewer, which means it's coming. If it doesn't then there will be no State money for the infrastructure that will be needed to service that area. And make no mistake, there will be roads, sidewalks and schools needed. Especially schools unless the high density is age restricted.
Abortions like Dunkirk in Calvert, with no water and sewer, ain't happening any more.
Money talks in both the government and private sector. In CH, the hold up is the public sewer. I'm guessing and it's sheer speculation on my part, the folks that own the fastfood places don't want the competition from a decent sit down restaurant. For now, I don't eat in CH, because no decent options exist. However, if a decent sit down option did exist, I'd eat there and I won't be alone. One inescapable fact about the restaurants that do exist in CH is they are generally full of customers.
I believe I read in a past article that CH is next in line after Lexington Park for sewer. Soooo, it's coming like it or not. My suggestion is to make a smart plan. One that doesn't begin with low end housing. We need something decent to anchor the "town center." I think decent retail and restaurants are a good start.
glhs837
Power with Control
Fast food thrives because it's fast food. Travellers eat fast food, they dont sit down. Not for longer than 20 minutes on thier way to the shopping up the road or the job down it. They dont care about sit ins, that's not what they compete against. CH is not a destination, it's a pass through.
Or, that you like to piss and moan about what others should do.
Or I have the balls to speak up and have a say in my community.
Southern Maryland is the least attractive option for higher end retail/restaurants in the DC area, that won't change. It is what it is and the reasons extend beyond water and sewer. Population density (as mentioned by ghs) as well as economics/incomes are responsible for that.
Restitution
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I agree with you on the Population density aspect BUT..... there is PLENTY of disposable income in this area to go around.
I grew up where they manufacture and build Corvettes and I have NEVER seen more than I do around here! More cigarette boats, fishing yachts, 4-wheelers, golf carts, huge RV trailers, etc. Don't tell me that lower income is a factor.
huntr1
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Not for me. I live here. It IS my destination. Would love some more GOOD sit down, can only eat so much mexican.
Thank you! The others on this board will have to forgive me for not sharing in their low self-esteem. I think CH deserves nice things. I live there. I have the income and the inclination to spend it there. I just need options.
Yet so many restaurants in SOMD fail and have failed..even a couple of the Mexican ones have.