Chopticon teacher on a week +++cruise???

LateApex

New Member
Have you been through those areas or just throwing them out there?

BTW - yes I have been through them. :coffee:

Yes I actually have.

When stationed at the branch med clinic in Alameda Cali I was able to take part in a program that provided health care to the surrounding areas.

When stationed in San Diego I did the same thing.

When going through training at Great Lakes I often times volunteered at the city hospital to provide health care.

:buddies:
 

LateApex

New Member
Because a white kid shot a few other people in a high school on the other side of the country some nine, ten years ago. :rolleyes:

I'm more worried about getting shot by some Korean in the middle of my class. :jameo:

That's the exact mentality I'm talking about.

You roll your eyes over something that happened 10 years ago which today is still one of the single most devastating things to happen in our public schools.

But, you blow it off because it happened in the past.

I admit. The data supports your stance. Because minorities are more congregated in certain parts of the country.

But your point of contention sounds to me sounds like someone saying: "it doesn't happen in our white schools!"

It's a heated issue minority vs non-minorities that I tend to get fired up over.

It's easy for someone that's not a minority to say "hey.. that's the problem right there, it's not us..."
 
Yes I actually have.

When stationed at the branch med clinic in Alameda Cali I was able to take part in a program that provided health care to the surrounding areas.

When stationed in San Diego I did the same thing.

When going through training at Great Lakes I often times volunteered at the city hospital to provide health care.

:buddies:

I have done a lot of work for the military and have been through the projects myself (as a white male) going from installation to installation... years ago before gang-bangers had no fear, it was not too bad. Today - no way, times have changed.

Today - people have lost respect for each other, especially at the younger ages. Parents do not care, or they are working 3 jobs to make ends meet and do not spend quality time with their children. We live in a microwave society and have to have it NOW, FAST, and EASY...

This is a problem bigger than SOMD...

Living here my entire life, the influx of minorities (hell, even whites for that matter) escaping DC and PG counties have moved into the area, as well as transient personnel has ruined this area. This is were I see the issue... young kids with no respect wanting to live like a thug... you cannot deny it... anytime you go to Waldorf you see it.

SOMD has lost its down-home feeling for the most part... :buddies:

The parents have or had good intentions, but failed and dropped the ball on rearing their children with no values full of material wealth.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
That's the exact mentality I'm talking about.

You roll your eyes over something that happened 10 years ago which today is still one of the single most devastating things to happen in our public schools.

But, you blow it off because it happened in the past.

I admit. The data supports your stance. Because minorities are more congregated in certain parts of the country.

But your point of contention sounds to me sounds like someone saying: "it doesn't happen in our white schools!"

It's a heated issue minority vs non-minorities that I tend to get fired up over.

It's easy for someone that's not a minority to say "hey.. that's the problem right there, it's not us..."

but nobody is saying it doesn't happen with white kids...

white people are bad too...I can't stand a LOT of white people and get along with plenty "minorities"...

it is simply fact that MORE violence occurs in areas with more "nationwide" minorities. (saying "more minorities" isn't really correct because what about the areas where the whites are the minority? we are talking about places where there is a large population of non-whites)
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
That's the exact mentality I'm talking about.

You roll your eyes over something that happened 10 years ago which today is still one of the single most devastating things to happen in our public schools.

But, you blow it off because it happened in the past.

I admit. The data supports your stance. Because minorities are more congregated in certain parts of the country.

But your point of contention sounds to me sounds like someone saying: "it doesn't happen in our white schools!"

It's a heated issue minority vs non-minorities that I tend to get fired up over.

It's easy for someone that's not a minority to say "hey.. that's the problem right there, it's not us..."


How about the few that are part of the minority that are calling things how they see them and saying "My people are/have a problem" ? AKA Bill Cosby? Do you think he is wrong in calling the portion of the black community that is causing the problems out, or is he an "Uncle Tom"?
 

LateApex

New Member
How about the few that are part of the minority that are calling things how they see them and saying "My people are/have a problem" ? AKA Bill Cosby? Do you think he is wrong in calling the portion of the black community that is causing the problems out, or is he an "Uncle Tom"?

In all honesty I can't speak for the black community because I'm not african american.

I'm also not one to say one race is better than another.

I took umbrage at the poster's remarks that in essence said minorities are the problem - albeit in a roundabout way.

My point is: violence happens in all schools whether they are predominantly black or white. Race isn't the mitigating factor in the equation.
 

beamher

Well-Known Member
Just what we need. No time to prepare for the next school year, to replace teachers that abruptly quit, to replace other staff that leave during the summer.

I work in the schools and the summer months are hectic, but it would be flat out catastrophic if Maryland decided to institute year-round schooling.

Having to do server replacement, go between schools to fix stuff kids broke in 110° and not having time to replace the equipment at other locations. :hot:

It's not just about the students getting a summer break you know.

:brow: never looked at it liked that :buddies:
 

LateApex

New Member
but nobody is saying it doesn't happen with white kids...

white people are bad too...I can't stand a LOT of white people and get along with plenty "minorities"...

it is simply fact that MORE violence occurs in areas with more "nationwide" minorities. (saying "more minorities" isn't really correct because what about the areas where the whites are the minority? we are talking about places where there is a large population of non-whites)

I can't find any data to support this but...

I wonder if there has been a study that looked at school violence - across all america - predominantly white schools and predominantly schools where the minority numbers are greater - and then looked at these numbers what the outcome would be.

Are there more schools that have less minorities?

I would think so.

So, what are those numbers compared to the ones where the minority population is greater.

I'm sure if we looked at the numbers that they would even out.
 

bohman

Well-Known Member
And out of seven period day (for example).. how many hours are actually spent in a classroom? Teachers I knew usually taught 4 classes a day, leaving them +3 hours to do stuff like grading papers, work on study plans, etc.. while they were at school. Still leaving them 1/2 hour for lunch.

Listen closely, Bob, can you hear that sound? It's the sound of my wife laughing her ass off at that statement. Or perhaps crying, I can't really tell yet.

She gets 20 minutes for lunch, IF there isn't some crisis that must be dealt with during those 20 minutes. She gets ONE planning period per day - IF she isn't required to go cover another teacher's class because they don't call in a sub for that teacher's sick day. There are many days that she's on her feet and dealing with kids for the whole day.

Which means, of course, that planning and grading take up a good deal of time at home, at night. Plus, she regularly stays late to offer help to any struggling student who wants it.

I'm sure you're good at whatever job it is that you do, but it's painfully obvious that you don't know what is required of a teacher on a daily basis. You know why they get 2 months in the summer? It's because they crammed 12 months of work into the other 10 months.
 

beamher

Well-Known Member
Are you serious? You're worried about a week and a half of time the teacher is away? I dare you to give teaching a try. are respectful and try ever so hard...NOT (for many).

Hats off to you teachers. Take your cruise, spa vacation, ski trip, whatever and never mind the OP's comment. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job. No, thanks. I'll keep the 4 hour commuting time I spend on the road every day thank you very much and thank God that I don't have to teach any kids.
:yeahthat:
 

terbear1225

Well-Known Member
Listen closely, Bob, can you hear that sound? It's the sound of my wife laughing her ass off at that statement. Or perhaps crying, I can't really tell yet.

She gets 20 minutes for lunch, IF there isn't some crisis that must be dealt with during those 20 minutes. She gets ONE planning period per day - IF she isn't required to go cover another teacher's class because they don't call in a sub for that teacher's sick day. There are many days that she's on her feet and dealing with kids for the whole day.

Which means, of course, that planning and grading take up a good deal of time at home, at night. Plus, she regularly stays late to offer help to any struggling student who wants it.

I'm sure you're good at whatever job it is that you do, but it's painfully obvious that you don't know what is required of a teacher on a daily basis. You know why they get 2 months in the summer? It's because they crammed 12 months of work into the other 10 months.

not to mention having to break up fights and getting stepped on in the process.

(today REALLY sucked!)
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
In all honesty I can't speak for the black community because I'm not african american.

I'm also not one to say one race is better than another.

I took umbrage at the poster's remarks that in essence said minorities are the problem - albeit in a roundabout way.

My point is: violence happens in all schools whether they are predominantly black or white. Race isn't the mitigating factor in the equation.

Well I am not black either but I can comment on it, I think that it is right for "leaders" of different communties to stand up and call out those that are putting them in a negative light, such as Bill Cosby has done, as opposed to Rev. Jesse and Al. As we all know they only show up when it looks like a black person has been taken advantage of or is the victim of something, yet never really see show up when "Their people" come off in a negative light. I just don't understand it, it is ass backwards to me.

It'd be like the white community defending Fred Phelps just because he is white.

I don't think that any race is better than another either, I just wish excuses would stop being made for some.

I also agree that violence happens in all schools and race might not be the mitigating factor, but you can't over look that the most violence occurs in places with the most minorities, and that, from what I remember is all that was said.
 
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LateApex

New Member
Listen closely, Bob, can you hear that sound? It's the sound of my wife laughing her ass off at that statement. Or perhaps crying, I can't really tell yet.

She gets 20 minutes for lunch, IF there isn't some crisis that must be dealt with during those 20 minutes. She gets ONE planning period per day - IF she isn't required to go cover another teacher's class because they don't call in a sub for that teacher's sick day. There are many days that she's on her feet and dealing with kids for the whole day.

Which means, of course, that planning and grading take up a good deal of time at home, at night. Plus, she regularly stays late to offer help to any struggling student who wants it.

I'm sure you're good at whatever job it is that you do, but it's painfully obvious that you don't know what is required of a teacher on a daily basis. You know why they get 2 months in the summer? It's because they crammed 12 months of work into the other 10 months.

Sorry to have derailed this thread.

The above is exactly why I believe that being a teacher is one of the toughest jobs there is to do. When something goes wrong at school often times the teacher is blamed. But, when scores are up and students are doing well - they are rarely thanked.

It's a noble profession - one that I would have loved to do - and still think of doing someday if I retire early enough.

I really enjoy teaching kids (tutored under privileged youth while in college) that's why I coach sports.

They are woefully underpaid and under appreciated.

IMHO I think they are doing just as important of a job as policeman, fireman, military serviceman. And, to the best of my knowledge get paid on average less than they do.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Listen closely, Bob, can you hear that sound? It's the sound of my wife laughing her ass off at that statement. Or perhaps crying, I can't really tell yet.

She gets 20 minutes for lunch, IF there isn't some crisis that must be dealt with during those 20 minutes. She gets ONE planning period per day - IF she isn't required to go cover another teacher's class because they don't call in a sub for that teacher's sick day. There are many days that she's on her feet and dealing with kids for the whole day.

Which means, of course, that planning and grading take up a good deal of time at home, at night. Plus, she regularly stays late to offer help to any struggling student who wants it.

I'm sure you're good at whatever job it is that you do, but it's painfully obvious that you don't know what is required of a teacher on a daily basis. You know why they get 2 months in the summer? It's because they crammed 12 months of work into the other 10 months.
My Mom is a teacher. I remember when growing up there was rarely a night that my Mom didn't have some sort of work to do when she was home. I know, in the case of my kids' teachers, when I get emails from them it's ussually after 6pm.
 
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