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AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
At a predominantly white school, right?

Ok, that is the 2nd time you've made that point, what are you trying to say? Whether the shooter is in the majority or minority, that white people make good mass shooting victims? I just don't get your point!!
 

JLS

Member
Isolated or not.

You can't just brush off an incident because it's isolated! Is one worse than the other? In my eyes yes. To me it's not a black/white issue. It's how society has changed and parents are not doing their jobs. When I was in school I don't even think there were guns around. Sure there were fights, but that was it. I was more worried about getting whooped at home for doing something stupid than worrying about messing around in school. It's funny how we view crime in America. For instance we are in an uproar if a kid brings a gun to school. Or if someone is beat down in school. Which we should be.
But what about the engineer who designs a faulty bridge which causes people to plummet to their death? They get fined and go their merry way.
What about the engineers who design faulty retaining walls and cause a catastrophe (a la katrina)? What about the insurance exec that swindles millions of people's retirement away. Fined and a few years in jail maybe?
But, the guy that gets caught for selling crack gets 20 years...
I'm not saying any of the above is proper. Just that our perception is so skewed and it becomes easy to blame one race or another...


What about a person whose at a bar and gets jumped by 3 other guys, and literally pulled out've a car window and the guy finally gets free, runs to his car and pulls a gun on them and tells them to leave him alone only to be jumped again and the gun goes off and one of the men die.. the guy gets arrested for murder 1.. is that fair?
 

LateApex

New Member
Ok, that is the 2nd time you've made that point, what are you trying to say? Whether the shooter is in the majority or minority, that white people make good mass shooting victims? I just don't get your point!!

My point is that violence occurs all over the place regardless of the population dataset.

Hell choose a county that is predominantly white. Pulling this out of the air: England, Ireland, etc.

I bet their statistics are on par with ours.

What I'm trying to get at is this:

The color of your skin is not the mitigating factor that predisposes one towards violence.

It's a deeper socio-economic problem that quite frankly we as adults are at fault for not raising our children the proper way.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
Ok, that is the 2nd time you've made that point, what are you trying to say? Whether the shooter is in the majority or minority, that white people make good mass shooting victims? I just don't get your point!!

he's saying that having it be a large MAJORITY (i'm not sure, i don't know the school well) white, that it discounts our theory that there is more violence in a more equal population school (more minority people).

it is incorrect, but that is what he is trying to say.
 

LateApex

New Member
I'm with you on that one! :high5:

I'm more worried about some kid from the suburbs going to the mall and blasting away at people because he didn't want to be a burden to his family and friends...

Or, some middle america nutjob that's pissed at the government and decides to park his truck bomb next to a crowded building.

I can handle some thug who wants to get all fittycent on me better than the above...
 

SouthernMdRocks

R.I.P. Bobo, We miss you!
What about a person whose at a bar and gets jumped by 3 other guys, and literally pulled out've a car window and the guy finally gets free, runs to his car and pulls a gun on them and tells them to leave him alone only to be jumped again and the gun goes off and one of the men die.. the guy gets arrested for murder 1.. is that fair?

Geez, :offtopic:!
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
What about a person whose at a bar and gets jumped by 3 other guys, and literally pulled out've a car window and the guy finally gets free, runs to his car and pulls a gun on them and tells them to leave him alone only to be jumped again and the gun goes off and one of the men die.. the guy gets arrested for murder 1.. is that fair?

At a bar in MD?? I hate to say it, but in this state the GUN was illegal to begin with.. so starting from there, everything he did (IN MD!) would be illegal.. Murder 1 might be a little much.. but self defense in this state is illegal.. stopping someone from killing you in this state is illegal.. defending yourself from three people.. yeah, illegal.. he should have ran away like a little girl instead..

He'd have ended up dead I'm sure, but at least he would have been innocent.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
At a bar in MD?? I hate to say it, but in this state the GUN was illegal to begin with.. so starting from there, everything he did (IN MD!) would be illegal.. Murder 1 might be a little much.. but self defense in this state is illegal.. stopping someone from killing you in this state is illegal.. defending yourself from three people.. yeah, illegal.. he should have ran away like a little girl instead..

He'd have ended up dead I'm sure, but at least he would have been innocent.

umm, don't know where you get your facts but most of them were false :shrug:

lets start with the fact that you can have a shotgun in your truck legally if it isn't loaded :coffee:

now anyone else want to go from there?
 

bohman

Well-Known Member
umm, don't know where you get your facts but most of them were false :shrug:

lets start with the fact that you can have a shotgun in your truck legally if it isn't loaded :coffee:

now anyone else want to go from there?

Yeah Bob, we all know how helpful it is to have an unloaded shotgun for self-defense! "Wait, don't hit me yet, I'm still loading!"
 

JLS

Member
My point is that violence occurs all over the place regardless of the population dataset.

Hell choose a county that is predominantly white. Pulling this out of the air: England, Ireland, etc.

I bet their statistics are on par with ours.

What I'm trying to get at is this:

The color of your skin is not the mitigating factor that predisposes one towards violence.

It's a deeper socio-economic problem that quite frankly we as adults are at fault for not raising our children the proper way.

This is why I argued with my Sociology professor.. all that blame it on the socio-economical background of the person bs.. I have seen first hand - you can have a someone growing up in the slums that can come out and be a Lawyer or Doctor.. and you can also have a someone growing up in the lack of luxury who becomes a crackhead... all I heard from my sociology professor was - people turn out the way they are because of their surroundings.. BS. I grew up in an alcoholics home, with a single parent supporting 2 children on welfare who is now working a very good job with a wonderful life.. a person CAN make the decision to do something to change the way their life is going - if they so choose to.
 
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