Chopticon teacher on a week +++cruise???

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LateApex said:
I bet you if I expanded from 5% to 20% in 1% percent increments I could show you a decrease.

How about I did it in 1/2% increments? I just doubled my data points.

I could do that infinitely in a finite area to show an increase.

Numbers are just that.. They can be massaged anyway you want to...
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Obviously, grammar isnt your strong point. :sarcasm:
 
theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

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dawn said:
Yep -- a person with the name Roxie on page 3 last post wrote

This is why my kids now go to private school. I think 3 days would be plenty but a week plus is harmfull to their education. But like you said the world needs garbage collecters and burger flippers...that's what public schools are known for.


I dont know how to multiple quote so I just cut and past sorry!
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good work dawn. i wasn't going back through 30 pages :lol:

mAlice...you didn't even read 3 pages? :lmao:

way to come into the fight unarmed...:pete:
 
mAlice

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caramelalb said:
My son just started CHopticon this year. His English Honors teacher has been out all week and the sub told them she will be out part of next week that she is on a cruise. How can this be allowed? I made a phone call and it was confirmed that she is indeed on a cruise. She couldn't do this over a break? Do teachers live in the real world???? This has me livid and I plan on calling Annapolis about this. No wonder the children aren't learning anything.
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Now, don't you feel silly?
 
clevalley

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pcjohnnyb said:
no, quite the contrary. I WILL say Late has made some valid TECHNICAL standpoints about why some people will not take the information as being true, but in the grand scheme of things, you are definitely correct in your hypothesis that greater percentage of minorities = higher amounts of violence.
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If this was a calculus problem and we applied calc analysis to it, well then yeah - one data point drop is a negate of the problem.

But, this is not a calc problem - this is statistics... there is a definite rise across multiple data points, which shows a rising trend.

I would rather :punchingmyselfinthediack: to make LA get it right now. Unfortunately they just want to argue a point where they cannot show me otherwise.

LateApex said:
My point is: violence happens in all schools whether they are predominantly black or white. Race isn't the mitigating factor in the equation.
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It was not the grand scheme of things - it was the entire point to show LA where they were incorrect; that is why I posted the data... :buddies:
 
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dawn

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pcjohnnyb said:
:huggy:

good work dawn. i wasn't going back through 30 pages :lol:

mAlice...you didn't even read 3 pages? :lmao:

way to come into the fight unarmed...:pete:
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Thanks. I started reading the thread last night, and the post from Roxie really angered me, so I knew exactly where to go and copy it (I just dont know how to double quote):killingme.
 
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Kain99

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dawn said:
Thanks. I started reading the thread last night, and the post from Roxie really angered me, so I knew exactly where to go and copy it (I just dont know how to double quote):killingme.
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kmw1123

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pcjohnnyb said:
ummm, can't remember.

people argued that teachers only work 7.5 hour days or something and that they get some super massive vacation time (such as in the summer) and that their pay is actually something like...22.XX an hour because even if they work 9 hour days for 10 months or something (not counting weekends) then this is what it comes out to...it was all mumbo jumbo TRYING to say that teachers make more than they do and get more vacation time than they actually do. trust me, without reading over this thread, i'll tell you that pretty dumb statements and "facts" were said....
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As a teacher, all I can say is that I wish I only work 7.5 hours a day, Monday through Friday. I teach middle school and I get to work at 7 AM and don't leave until 5 PM or later. My weekends are filled with grading, research, lesson planning, and anything else that didn't get done during the week. As far as pay goes, the only reason we get a check during the summer is because we spread our pay out through the year, but we only get paid for the months that we work. During the summer, there are many of us who have to get a second job just to get a little extra money and pay bills. If we are single, it is impossible for us to even think about owning our own home in this area. I live in a tiny one-floor house in the ranch club with my fiance and it is a struggle just to make ends meet. As far as going on vacation goes, why should we schedule our lives around your children (even more than we already do) when there are several parents who won't do that for us? There are many parents who take their kids out for a week or more to go on vacation during the school year. Teaching is a very stressful job, and if you don't believe me, try being a substitute for a day. I love my job, don't get me wrong, but it is definitely a job you don't pursue for the money or appreciation. Just remember that not only do we deal with your child, but also 160 others during the day. We are human, too, and if we want to get married, go on vacation, or have a baby during the months of August to June, that's life.
 
SouthernMdRocks

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kmw1123 said:
As a teacher, all I can say is that I wish I only work 7.5 hours a day, Monday through Friday. I teach middle school and I get to work at 7 AM and don't leave until 5 PM or later. My weekends are filled with grading, research, lesson planning, and anything else that didn't get done during the week. As far as pay goes, the only reason we get a check during the summer is because we spread our pay out through the year, but we only get paid for the months that we work. During the summer, there are many of us who have to get a second job just to get a little extra money and pay bills. If we are single, it is impossible for us to even think about owning our own home in this area. I live in a tiny one-floor house in the ranch club with my fiance and it is a struggle just to make ends meet. As far as going on vacation goes, why should we schedule our lives around your children (even more than we already do) when there are several parents who won't do that for us? There are many parents who take their kids out for a week or more to go on vacation during the school year. Teaching is a very stressful job, and if you don't believe me, try being a substitute for a day. I love my job, don't get me wrong, but it is definitely a job you don't pursue for the money or appreciation. Just remember that not only do we deal with your child, but also 160 others during the day. We are human, too, and if we want to get married, go on vacation, or have a baby during the months of August to June, that's life.
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Are you sure you love it?? :lmao: I could never do it.
 
hotmomma

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I know a girl who teaches special ed and the kids hit her and are violent a lot. thank god she does that job cause I couldnt
 
SouthernMdRocks

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kmw1123 said:
Teaching is what I have wanted to do since I was a little girl. It's hard, but there are little things throughout my day that make it more than worth while.
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That's great! My son wants to teach, I hope he feels the same way because he has trouble dealing with his younger siblings at times....:lmao:
 
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I say that the general problem is that there's no incentive to teach at the elementary or secondary level, many colleges that take the best and brightest don't even have teaching programs anymore;it's an academically soft major at most schools. Teaching is one of those professions that requires education, but there's no salary to back it up- why drop 20-50 grand on an education when engineering pays double coming out of the gate for the same price? In my experience, aside from the few real gems who feel they are destined to be teachers, it's a field that people "end up" majoring in after they can't handle pre-law or pre-med, or a more rigorous field. It's sad.
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SouthernMdRocks

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roxie said:
I say that the general problem is that there's no incentive to teach at the elementary or secondary level, many colleges that take the best and brightest don't even have teaching programs anymore;it's an academically soft major at most schools. Teaching is one of those professions that requires education, but there's no salary to back it up- why drop 20-50 grand on an education when engineering pays double coming out of the gate for the same price? In my experience, aside from the few real gems who feel they are destined to be teachers, it's a field that people "end up" majoring in after they can't handle pre-law or pre-med, or a more rigorous field. It's sad.
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You speaking from personal experience?:popcorn:
 
terbear1225

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roxie said:
I say that the general problem is that there's no incentive to teach at the elementary or secondary level, many colleges that take the best and brightest don't even have teaching programs anymore;it's an academically soft major at most schools. Teaching is one of those professions that requires education, but there's no salary to back it up- why drop 20-50 grand on an education when engineering pays double coming out of the gate for the same price? In my experience, aside from the few real gems who feel they are destined to be teachers, it's a field that people "end up" majoring in after they can't handle pre-law or pre-med, or a more rigorous field. It's sad._
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sounds like your experience must be pretty limited. every single person I ever took an education class with felt that they were destined to be a teacher. not a single one of them ever expressed that they had "ended up" there because they couldn't hack it somewhere else. Those that take that particular route to teaching generally don't make it past their first or second year in the classroom.
 
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