Chopticon teacher on a week +++cruise???

[AK-74me]

Point taken...

But, I don't see any of those minorities going Columbine on the student population...

In fact it seems to me that the white kids are the one's we should be worrying about...

That is because they are very isolated, yes white kids are more likely to go in a school and shoot 10 people, just like serial killers are profiled as white. Those are correct assumtions, still overall violence is a bigger problem with heavily populated minority areas more so than other not so heavily minority populated areas. It just is.

 

[clevalley]

Point taken...

But, I don't see any of those minorities going Columbine on the student population...

In fact it seems to me that the white kids are the one's we should be worrying about...

World of difference between a white kid flipping out because he was 'picked' on and being an outcast AND a group of thugs beating down, harassing and bulling other kids who WANT to be in the school...

I am in NO way justifying any school shootings but stand back and look at why and you might see you cannot draw a parallel.

 

[LateApex]

Because that happened one time 10+ years ago.

Yep, okay, it's the white kids' fault.

What about Jena 6? Baltimore? Heck, when I went to Westlake, it seemed like it was almost always started by some black dude kirking out because somebody accidently bumped into him in the hallway or something ridiculous.

I've been there and seen it.

Believe me.. I've been there and seen it too when you step on Billy Joe's toes.

For every instance you bring up I can provide a counter point.

 

[sockgirl77]

Hello...

Of course you'll see that in the INNER CITY.

There are more minorities that live in the inner city.

You don't want to get into statistics with me because mathematically I could prove just about anything to you using statistics.

Please do. I'd like to see you prove him wrong mathematically. I'd like to see where the crime rate is higher in predominately white areas.

 

[itsbob]

I was just thinking, the handbook states that if kids go on vacation during the school year that it is unexcused and too many unexcused absences you can fail. I don't know if the schools have ever failed anyone because of this reason but I think parents should be able to go away anytime they want with their kids. I know school is important but I should be able to go away whenever I want. Just a thought

Every year students fail, or don't progress to the next grade, due to too many absences. Even if they have a 3.3 GPA, they can and will still fail them for too many absences...

And in some states/ counties.. you take your kids out of school for a vacation (or any other unexcused absence) you could be facing a serious amount of fines..

 

[Pete]

Are you serious? You're worried about a week and a half of time the teacher is away? I dare you to give teaching a try. It's got to be one of the most thankless jobs on the face of the earth. You think the day is over for them when the kids get on the bus to go home, when schools out for the summer, weekends? Think again. The paperwork and new system of entering assignments and grades (for the convienence of YOU, the parent) is a nightmare especially for those teaching at the tech center where kids from all three highschools attend. And don't even get me started on pay and benefits. Up until a year ago teachers could look forward to about 30% of their final salary for a pension after 30 years (or more ) of service. 30% of a salary that's waaay below most of the other white collar professions. God only knows how they ever get their student loans paid off on the salaries they give. You can bet that that pension isn't going make the cut and most retired teachers will have to supplement their retirement income by CONTINUING to work after they've put in their 30 years of service unless they've made some really wise investments on their own. They get two (yes two) personal days per year (most people get 2-4 WEEKS at least of vacation time). There's no overtime pay for those teachers that stay after to help your child. Continuing education is a must if teachers want to keep their current salary, so they must go to school and teach at the same time. The administration can make or break the job and if you have to deal with complete and utter a$$holes on the administrative side you might as well drive yourself into the river. OH! and the adorable little students! They are ever so polite and eager to learn. They even come to class every day and are respectful and try ever so hard...NOT (for many).

Hats off to you teachers. Take your cruise, spa vacation, ski trip, whatever and never mind the OP's comment. You couldn't pay me enough to do your job. No, thanks. I'll keep the 4 hour commuting time I spend on the road every day thank you very much and thank God that I don't have to teach any kids.

my eyes

 

[AK-74me]

Hello...

Of course you'll see that in the INNER CITY.

There are more minorities that live in the inner city.

You don't want to get into statistics with me because mathematically I could prove just about anything to you using statistics.

EWWWW, then what is so wrong with Andy's statement!!!???

 

[sockgirl77]

my eyes

No chit!

 

[jetmonkey]

Do teachers work a 40 hour week?

 

[terbear1225]

But that doesn't answer his question.. How many days a year is a teacher contractually required to work??

I can't speak for public schools but my contract does not specify a set number of days. I am contractually obligated to be here school days and faculty inservice days from Aug. 20th to June 10th, plus "other duties as assigned" meaning there are some weekend events/over night field trips that I must take part in.

 

[AK-74me]

69% of statistics are made up on the spot, there I proved you wrong!!

 

[itsbob]

Do teachers work a 40 hour week?

St. Mary's County: 190 days (191 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

Calvert County: 190 days (192 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

This is their contract requirements..

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Do teachers work a 40 hour week?

40 hours minimum, if they're lucky.

Like I said, most middle school and high school teachers work after hours and on weekends.

 

[sockgirl77]

Do teachers work a 40 hour week?

Teachers work an 80 hour work week. They are there before and after the kids. They grade papers, call parents, and attend parent/teacher meetings on a regular basis. Teachers work their ass off for very little. They never get fully compensated for all that they do. Also, teachers tend to put in their own money to get the things for the classrooms that is out of the school's budget.

 

[clevalley]

Hello...

Of course you'll see that in the INNER CITY.

There are more minorities that live in the inner city.

You don't want to get into statistics with me because mathematically I could prove just about anything to you using statistics.

You see it here in Charles County - the influx of minorities moving down into Waldorf is proof enough - look at Andy's post about Mattawoman on 228, and he is right - the level of violence at that school is pretty bad...

Look at John Hanson - another eff'ed up school as well!

Why - look at the areas around it and what steps off the school bus - that should be a clue.

 

[Pete]

St. Mary's County: 190 days (191 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

Calvert County: 190 days (192 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

This is their contract requirements..

But those are "instructional days" or inservice days. You can't honestly count weekends.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Believe me.. I've been there and seen it too when you step on Billy Joe's toes.

For every instance you bring up I can provide a counter point.

When was the last time there was a shooting in a Charles County school?

 

[terbear1225]

Do teachers work a 40 hour week?

depends on what you're counting. If you only count the hours we are contratually obligated to be in our classrooms, it's closer to 35 BUT no teacher could get everything donhe that they needed to do in that time. Most, if not all make up those extra 5 hours (if not much more) by coming in early, staying late and/or taking work home with them in the evenings and weekends.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

St. Mary's County: 190 days (191 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

Calvert County: 190 days (192 for new teachers), 7 hours and 30 minutes a day

This is their contract requirements..

I can't believe you're ACTUALLY trying to argue that teachers do any less work than other people...

they do more...trust me.

I don't care if that IS in fact their contract requirements. Do you realize that they stay after the students leave nearly EVERY day and forget about afterschool activities...yeah, teachers supervise...forget about that? Most teachers come in early nearly every day as well...

7.5 hours isn't even close to how much time they spend JUST at school doing work.

 

[toppick08]

I can't believe you're ACTUALLY trying to argue that teachers do any less work than other people...

they do more...trust me.

I don't care if that IS in fact their contract requirements. Do you realize that they stay after the students leave nearly EVERY day and forget about afterschool activities...yeah, teachers supervise...forget about that? Most teachers come in early nearly every day as well...

7.5 hours isn't even close to how much time they spend JUST at school doing work.

They should take this up with their Union.