Dr. Charles Stanley

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
JPC, you are a very deluded, self important person. You are a legend in your own eyes and estimation.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

JPC, you are a very deluded, self important person. You are a legend in your own eyes and estimation.
:buddies: As flattered as I am by your comments,

the question was what does anyone say about Dr. Charles Stanley ?

:shortbus:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

Your scum that ran out on his wife and young son!You'll never be anything else.
:diva: I do not believe you know my life or my situation as you pretend to here.

Such self-righteous accusations might influence your kind but your kind are of no value to me. :shortbus:
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
Do you guys really believe there is a fiery pit of hell and people that are damned go there to burn for all eternity?

Yes, I really do and I believe in Heaven. I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe in God the Father Almighty. No, I am not going to try and "force" or persuade you or anybody else to believe but I do believe with all of my being.
 

Marie

New Member
:diva: The Bible never really says that we have a free will, and I find that most people act like sheep and not free-will individuals at all.

In fact claiming the "free-will" is not really very true for most people.

We can choose "chocolate" or "vanilla" or type of car but that is not really a "free will".

Like none of us had a free-will to be born, or born into a sin filled world, no free will in gender or hair color or race or place of birth.

And when parents tell their children to walk or to talk or go to school then the children have no free will choice.

So the fact that we as adults might pick and choose our spouse or house or type of car or occupation are not really my idea of free will at all.

Even sinning is not a free will choice because most people sin out of vain needs and not from evil intentions.

When God created mankind He asked for no permission, and God said He would resurrect us but we can not pick or choose not to rise.

The Judgement Day is not by invitation only buy we must go whether anyone likes it or not, and God saves His children whether they like it or not.
:diva: I do not like the idea of Hell for anyone.

And I will choose Hell for myself before serving a God that has no mercy.

And both Jesus and God does not like the "Hell" concept either link HERE again.

Even if you are claiming that you like Hell - then it is only liking it for others to burn.

If Adolf Hitler (or anyone) has been burning in Hell for some 62 years now then God would have to be a monster and a tyrant and most of all he would be a fraud because Jesus told us otherwise link HERE.

The truth is that Judgement Day will be a great day when every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and everyone will be saved.

That is the correct interpretation and people burning in Hell was never correct.

:shortbus:


It is God’s will that none should perish (2 Peter 3:9), therefore, it must be someone else’s choice that separates individuals from God. God says we will reap what we sow – we can choose to reap differently (Galatians 6:7-8).

Who do you think that might be?
 

Marie

New Member
Do you guys really believe there is a fiery pit of hell and people that are damned go there to burn for all eternity?
Yes in fact when I get home from work I want to start a thread on Gods 3 tyes of will
Hell
and effectual calling.
Unless someone else wants to and I just chime in :)
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

It is God’s will that none should perish (2 Peter 3:9), therefore, it must be someone else’s choice that separates individuals from God. God says we will reap what we sow – we can choose to reap differently (Galatians 6:7-8).

Who do you think that might be?
:popcorn:Since it does say that it is God's "will" that no one perishes link HERE then no one will.

God is the boss and not some puny choice of any individual. :shortbus:
 

FerretRescue

bite me
Yes, I really do and I believe in Heaven. I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe in God the Father Almighty. No, I am not going to try and "force" or persuade you or anybody else to believe but I do believe with all of my being.

I just find it hard to believe. JMO and I respect yours too. Where is Hell supposed to be?
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
I just find it hard to believe. JMO and I respect yours too. Where is Hell supposed to be?

Hell, like Heaven, is not here on this Earth. It is a place that God has set aside for those who will not repent and allow Him to be their Lord & Savior. Satan used to be in Heaven. He was an Angel who sought to overthrow God. God threw Him and 1/3 of the Angels out of Heaven. Satan now walks the Earth trying to entice people to sin. Satan is not ugly because you would not be tempted by things that looked ugly to you (at least not ugly on the surface). On the final Judgement Day everyone who believes in Jesus Christ will go to Heaven to live Eternally with Him. Those who do not, including Satan, will be cast into Hell, otherwise known as The Lake of Fire to burn for all eternity. JPC argues that all will be saved and there is no Hell because people in Hell would still be living in the fire. You call that living? I don't! He also says God would not be unmerciful. God is merciful. He gives us the chance to choose Him. It is up to us to make that decision.
 

FerretRescue

bite me
Hell, like Heaven, is not here on this Earth. It is a place that God has set aside for those who will not repent and allow Him to be their Lord & Savior. Satan used to be in Heaven. He was an Angel who sought to overthrow God. God threw Him and 1/3 of the Angels out of Heaven. Satan now walks the Earth trying to entice people to sin. Satan is not ugly because you would not be tempted by things that looked ugly to you (at least not ugly on the surface). On the final Judgement Day everyone who believes in Jesus Christ will go to Heaven to live Eternally with Him. Those who do not, including Satan, will be cast into Hell, otherwise known as The Lake of Fire to burn for all eternity. JPC argues that all will be saved and there is no Hell because people in Hell would still be living in the fire. You call that living? I don't! He also says God would not be unmerciful. God is merciful. He gives us the chance to choose Him. It is up to us to make that decision.

Ok, so you have to wait until judgement day to go to heaven or hell or does this happen when you die?
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
Ok, so you have to wait until judgement day to go to heaven or hell or does this happen when you die?

No, you will go to Heaven or hell when you die. The final Judgement Day will be when Christ comes back for everybody who is still here. Those who believe are going with Him right then and there. That's called "The Rapture". The rest are going to go thru many years of trials of tribulation and have a chance to get right and choose Him. If they don't then when the final day comes to stand before God that's when the separation comes between those who chose Him and those who did not. That's when there are no more chances and it's either Heaven for eternity or Hell.
 

camily

Peace
No, you will go to Heaven or hell when you die. The final Judgement Day will be when Christ comes back for everybody who is still here. Those who believe are going with Him right then and there. That's called "The Rapture". The rest are going to go thru many years of trials of tribulation and have a chance to get right and choose Him. If they don't then when the final day comes to stand before God that's when the separation comes between those who chose Him and those who did not. That's when there are no more chances and it's either Heaven for eternity or Hell.

Yes, and I do not want to be there! Think about it, all those who believe will be GONE. All those left on earch will be no believers or those who have it incorrect. Who will be here to change their minds? While it seems that it would be easy to believe, you would be in the VAST minority. Picture this, we are having this conversation......and suddenly there are no responses from me, you, this_person, fred, 2A, etc. The rest keep typing. No response. They go outside and start hearing that people just vanished. Poof! Amazing! Have you guys read the books "Left Behind"?
 

FerretRescue

bite me
No, you will go to Heaven or hell when you die. The final Judgement Day will be when Christ comes back for everybody who is still here. Those who believe are going with Him right then and there. That's called "The Rapture". The rest are going to go thru many years of trials of tribulation and have a chance to get right and choose Him. If they don't then when the final day comes to stand before God that's when the separation comes between those who chose Him and those who did not. That's when there are no more chances and it's either Heaven for eternity or Hell.

wow. so when is this supposed to happen?
 

FerretRescue

bite me
Yes, and I do not want to be there! Think about it, all those who believe will be GONE. All those left on earch will be no believers or those who have it incorrect. Who will be here to change their minds? While it seems that it would be easy to believe, you would be in the VAST minority. Picture this, we are having this conversation......and suddenly there are no responses from me, you, this_person, fred, 2A, etc. The rest keep typing. No response. They go outside and start hearing that people just vanished. Poof! Amazing! Have you guys read the books "Left Behind"?

No. What is that?
 

tommyjones

New Member
Yes, and I do not want to be there! Think about it, all those who believe will be GONE. All those left on earch will be no believers or those who have it incorrect. Who will be here to change their minds? While it seems that it would be easy to believe, you would be in the VAST minority. Picture this, we are having this conversation......and suddenly there are no responses from me, you, this_person, fred, 2A, etc. The rest keep typing. No response. They go outside and start hearing that people just vanished. Poof! Amazing! Have you guys read the books "Left Behind"?

you know the ancient chinese wore their hair in that funny little ponytail so god could 'yank' them up to heaven when the time came.....


sounds just about as likely to be "truth" to me
 

godsbutterfly

Free to Fly
wow. so when is this supposed to happen?

Nobody knows for certain. Even Jesus said it is not for us to know the hour or the day. If we did people would be out there acting like ***holes and then when it came time for Him to come back they would fall on their knees trying to act like they were truly sorry unaware God knows a liar when He sees and hears one. Yes, people can change and it only takes an instant, but God knows who is just "playing the God game" and who is for real.

Yes, I have read the "Left Behind Series" but only for kids! My children loved the series. It is about what happens after Jesus takes the people to Heaven with Him.
 
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