PeoplesElbow
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Gives me the idea to 3d print some "Electric Vehicle" badges and these things to put on Etsy
Electric Car News
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glhs837
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Yeah, that is a weak point. Still the best idea I've seen
glhs837
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"EVs are only for the rich!!!!!"
www.canarymedia.com
Now, that does include $7500 credit. Tesla argued against that, said no credit was needed. But the point remains. You can get a damn good EV for less than competitor ICE vehicles.
Oh, and BTW, EV sales for the first half to 2023 were up to 7% of vehicle sales. Not quite double last years percentage. So the "Nobodys buying EVs" line isn't tracking.
Teslas are now cheaper than the average new gas-powered car
EVs have hit a tipping point for adoption in the U.S. — and now two models from the market leader are cheaper than many fossil-fueled alternatives.
Now, that does include $7500 credit. Tesla argued against that, said no credit was needed. But the point remains. You can get a damn good EV for less than competitor ICE vehicles.
Oh, and BTW, EV sales for the first half to 2023 were up to 7% of vehicle sales. Not quite double last years percentage. So the "Nobodys buying EVs" line isn't tracking.
When I want to cut my vehicle range, restrict its area of operation, spend an hour at a service station every 250 miles and give someone else total, and remote, control over the devices operation, I'll buy one.
Until I deteriorate to that point, I'll stick with my ICE.
Until I deteriorate to that point, I'll stick with my ICE.
glhs837
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Go right ahead. I will note about your one point. It shouldn't be an hour every 250 miles. More like 20-30 minutes. About the amount of time most folks take to take a bathroom break, get a snack and a drink. And of course that only applies to road trips, otherwise you are topped off every morning, you know, for +250 days a year you are not taking long journeys. And don't forget, you are losing other things as well. oil changes, spark plug changes, engine air filter changes. brake servicing. That stuff does add up. Oh, and a absolute ton of money spent on gasoline.
So its not all downside.
Musk Says Tesla ‘Dug Our Own Grave’ With The Cybertruck
According to a report from Business Insider, Musk explained to investors on the call that the Cybertruck’s angular design presented the company with countless problems when it comes to scaling up to mass production.
Because of its production challenges, Musk and co missed its Q3 deadline to begin deliveries of the all-electric truck. Now, the company is targeting November 30 for the truck’s launch, making it the sixth delivery date Tesla has so far announced. As Business Insider explains:
glhs837
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And nobody has any idea what that's going to mean to the bottom line in the years ahead.
glhs837
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How do you install higher quality chargers much quicker than the other guys? Simple, vertically integrate the process. Do everything you can inside a factory where Q/C is a lot simpler and your people are not out in the rain and cold. Then just deliver, drop in place, and hook up the mains power.
Truth makes interesting news. Much more informing than hyperbole.
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New report unmasks true costs of electric vehicle mandates: 'Remain more expensive'
A new report from the Texas Public Policy Foundation determined that electric vehicles, if not for billions of dollars in subsidies, would cost nearly $50,000 more each.
Don't be using logic or intelligence here. Get with the Brandon economy.
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glhs837
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Truth makes interesting news. Much more informing than hyperbole.
New report unmasks true costs of electric vehicle mandates: 'Remain more expensive'
A new report from the Texas Public Policy Foundation determined that electric vehicles, if not for billions of dollars in subsidies, would cost nearly $50,000 more each.
Think I might want to check over a Texas based orgs math a bit
But we do agree that the govt needs to stop with the subsidies. LEts not forget tax breaks for oil companies while we're at it. Level playing field and all. If oil companies get to write off exploration cos, so too should battery plant investment be write offs. Same for grin strain. Any other industry getting special rates, end that stuff. Again, level the playing field, make everybody pay the freight. One UK company stopped insuring them, but then restarted. Another is considering not insuring some models. The biggest driver in this report is the increased cost in risk for batteries. New stuff, they are scared. So they crank up the risk level. This will drop over time.
glhs837
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Randomly? Ah, no. People damage the packs or they are faulty. At arate far less than gas vehicles catch on fire, I'll note. And yes, thats corrected for quantity in service.
And its not "almost every accident". But it is higher than i should be. "We lack the diagnostics to ensure battery health" means that someone somewhere is developing those tools right now. And once hey are deployed, this silliness will stop.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
If that were to happen, the EV market would collapse over night. As well as the solar panel market, and the wind turbine market. As they should.
If that were to happen, the EV market would collapse over night. As well as the solar panel market, and the wind turbine market. As they should.
glhs837
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You
Might think, but Tesla did fine for almost two years with no tax incentives
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
True. But those people that bought them, wanted to buy them, and, could afford them. There was no governmental force, (manufacturer subsidies, tax incentives, tax rebates, etc.), to increase sales. In addition to the recent governmental war against ICE vehicles and anything non-electric.
True. But those people that bought them, wanted to buy them, and, could afford them. There was no governmental force, (manufacturer subsidies, tax incentives, tax rebates, etc.), to increase sales. In addition to the recent governmental war against ICE vehicles and anything non-electric.