Electric Car News
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glhs837
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You know that the quad cab F-150 is the benchmark, right? Seeing as it's the most popular configuration sold. But maybe folks shopping a 1/2 ton want to look at a two ton diesel that gets 10mpg. Probably not.
Not sure what diesel you were looking at the got 10mpg.
Last one I drove was getting about 12-13 while towing about 26-28k.
glhs837
Power with Control
Pulled up the F-450 on Fuelly. That looked to be the average.
Ford F-450 Super Duty MPG - Actual MPG from 20 Ford F-450 Super Duty owners
The most accurate Ford F-450 Super Duty MPG estimates based on real world results of 412 thousand miles driven in 20 Ford F-450 Super Du1ies
www.fuelly.com
PeoplesElbow
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I think they could have made what they proposed, but it would have probably been $150k or more.
PeoplesElbow
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I think the benchmark is probably more the F-250 with the 6.7L Diesel, those ave listed on Fuely is about 14-15 MPG.
glhs837
Power with Control
And when you go from concept to production, these are the choice you are faced with.
Kyles the one who said you could get an F-450 instead. I said that Tesla said flat out that the competition they were benchmarking was the most popular configuration of pickup in the US, the quad cab shortbed F-150, I'll suppose the Lariat trim. The XL is more commonly sold, but I suspect once you remove fleet sales, the average person buys Lariat more often than not.
glhs837
Power with Control
Yeah, cause that a common consumer choice.
Here's the thing, everybody wants their 1% use case to be met. And if you dont, your product is crap. Nobody designed this truck to tow a 24 foot boat from here to Miami. IF you are doing that, then a gas or diesel rig is your best choice. But if you are hauling your 18-24 foot boat less than 200 miles to the water, as a lot of folks do, then this works fine for you.
Like I said, EVs would make a great golf cart... Or one of those grocery store electric scooters.Yeah, cause that a common consumer choice.
But if you are hauling your 18-24 foot boat less than 200 miles to the water, as a lot of folks do, then this works fine for you.
PeoplesElbow
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Going by what I see in the parking lot at work most I see have the FX on them, not sure what that means as I've never had an F-150.
I've had a Ranger and Tacoma. I've said before I want a plug in hybrid Tacoma, but not sure I'd ever want to get rid of my 2nd gen 4.0L Taco.
Now now you left out pizza delivery as long as you don't order extra cheese.
glhs837
Power with Control
Some form of upgrade for the 4x4 equipped models.
300+ miles of range is fine for the great majority of folks. Especially when you consider you start with a "full tank" every day.
A 4 door hatchback would be my "transition" vehicle.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Just watched a vid by Two Bit da Vinci on the CyberTruck release. Not going to link it, easy to find if you're interested, amongst the many CyberTruck vids. He did hit the nail on the head regarding usage; who will be using it, how trucks are currently used, real world understanding. But I see a whole market that is being ignored, for good reason. This thing is pretty much bullet proof, glass is shatter-resistant, crash testing shows it to take a likkin' and keep on tickin'. Perfect vehicle for criminals. I think you're going to see an uptick in drive-by shootings, hit and runs, ATM thefts. A new level of invincibility while having an envied ride. The new bling.
Working on a cheaper model that still runs on gasoline....
PeoplesElbow
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That can be simply turned off by the factory.