FLU IS RUNNING RAMPANT

Bann

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From what I've seen the magic 8 ball is more reliable.
Maybe so, can't discount that - but I think it really has a lot to do with "how much" virus might be showing up when you test ,as well as the actual tester doing it right, etc.

I was negative 2 times before testing the 3rd time and was positive this past spring. (probably 4 days from 1st thru last test) Felt like a sinus cold - no fever, no body aches, etc like the first time in March 2021.
 

3CATSAILOR

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It makes me wonder if some of these test kits are just not working properly? I tested 2 times within a few days of being sick and was negative then when I tested positive at Patient First I tested again with a home test and was again negative.
I have come to the conclusion the test kits only detect a "high volume" of the virus in your system. Moderate to low volume does not appear to be detected by any of the kits. Probably due to the way the kits were created. I wonder where and who created the kits? Chinese? If so, they are making a ton of money off of what they did to us. On the other hand, Urgent Cares have only LPNs these days. Their level of training is not that of a PA or Doctor. But, I bet you will be billed as if you saw a Doctor. It's the American way! (lol). When getting tested, be sure the test is done "in your presence" and you can see it come up positive or negative. Never believe anyone that goes out of the room you are in and then back in just to tell you are positive. And then shortly afterward to push whatever regiment of drugs they have lined up for you.
 

3CATSAILOR

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Supposedly there is some type of new virus the Dems came up with in CA. It is called the HRSV. CA has declared a State of Emergency over it. I suspect another ploy to give Americans more jabs they probably don't need.

Every year they push the flu shots. Flu shots seem to be less than 50% effective all the time. Sometimes it is far less, close to 25%. If that is the case, why are people getting the flu shot? Lets say it is greater than 50% effective. Then, I understand. But, less than 50% effective and still get it? How does it make any sense? And even if you do get it, do you know what jab you are "really" getting? Oh, I forgot. We trust then. We trust the CDC. And even better, we trust the same people who lied or squashed free speech about COVID-19 over the last three years and counting.

After three years of jabs, I have heard so many times from so many people that the jabs are part of the plan of the New Global Order to significantly reduce population on this planet. I originally thought it is BS. I still do to some point. BUT, who do we owe a ton of money to? Yes, China. Where did Covid come from?. Yep, China. Where is most of everything we purchase come from? China. What Country is buying up our farm lands and our ports that our food can come in from? Yep, China. Again, who gave us the virus? China. And yep, the Chinese even made their own version of the N95 mask. And the tests kits. And the list goes on. Some people which their job forced to get the jabs or be fired said they now believe they will be dead in a few years.

A millionaire that I know is purchasing land in every State. His belief is that starting from NOW to the future people will be starting to die from brain aneurysms. He is creating a National Cemetery business! Perhaps crazy? Or, sly like a fox? In fact, a Priest, Deacon and the Funeral Home Director in the County told me it is "already happening" locally. Perhaps it is from the virus itself? Maybe. Or, as the State of Florida appears to believe it may be from some of the vaccines. Time will tell.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
His belief is that starting from NOW to the future people will be starting to die from brain aneurysms.
I don't know about aneurysms, but I do think people will start to keel over in greater numbers because we, as a society, have removed 'survival of the fittest' from all equations. The least little thing that we would have naturally been immune to will devastate.
 

3CATSAILOR

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I don't know about aneurysms, but I do think people will start to keel over in greater numbers because we, as a society, have removed 'survival of the fittest' from all equations. The least little thing that we would have naturally been immune to will devastate.
Good point. In particular if the immune system is compromised by outside factors.
 

SamSpade

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I *have* heard a conjecture that the reason flu cases are up is BECAUSE of the lockdowns - that immune systems have not been subjected to the daily assault they normally get and are thus compromised.

One of many reasons we should never have closed schools.
 

ArkRescue

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I have come to the conclusion the test kits only detect a "high volume" of the virus in your system. Moderate to low volume does not appear to be detected by any of the kits. Probably due to the way the kits were created. I wonder where and who created the kits? Chinese? If so, they are making a ton of money off of what they did to us. On the other hand, Urgent Cares have only LPNs these days. Their level of training is not that of a PA or Doctor. But, I bet you will be billed as if you saw a Doctor. It's the American way! (lol). When getting tested, be sure the test is done "in your presence" and you can see it come up positive or negative. Never believe anyone that goes out of the room you are in and then back in just to tell you are positive. And then shortly afterward to push whatever regiment of drugs they have lined up for you.
Because my onset of symptoms was 9 days prior they said I was too late to get any anti-viral help for what she suspected was Covid (did the more reliable PCR test) and sent me home with nothing for Covid. I had to insist on antibiotics for the sinus infection. She tried to tell me the sinus pressure was part of Covid and she gave me a speech about how antibiotics don't treat viruses yada yada yada (I knew that already) and I said look, I know I have a sinus infection and the pain is so intense my BP is sky high, she said oh yes your BP is high ok I'll give you antibiotics.
 

ArkRescue

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I *have* heard a conjecture that the reason flu cases are up is BECAUSE of the lockdowns - that immune systems have not been subjected to the daily assault they normally get and are thus compromised.

One of many reasons we should never have closed schools.
People like to speculate to stir up conversation. I thought I had a strong immune system before I started working in elementary schools in 2017. As soon as I can I will get my senior body away from schools because I am getting sick left and right. Covid started Oct 5th, and I never recovered completely. Last Friday Nov 4th I feel the raw throat again OMG no. I was hoping it was the Ragweed pollen but it persisted all weekend and I have felt progressively worse each day (same as the start of Covid) and today I am at work since if I don't come I don't get paid and I will call my regular Dr that I trust more and schedule to be seen there.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
People like to speculate to stir up conversation. I thought I had a strong immune system before I started working in elementary schools in 2017. As soon as I can I will get my senior body away from schools because I am getting sick left and right. Covid started Oct 5th, and I never recovered completely. Last Friday Nov 4th I feel the raw throat again OMG no. I was hoping it was the Ragweed pollen but it persisted all weekend and I have felt progressively worse each day (same as the start of Covid) and today I am at work since if I don't come I don't get paid and I will call my regular Dr that I trust more and schedule to be seen there.
Did you have shots/boosters?
 

PeoplesElbow

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I *have* heard a conjecture that the reason flu cases are up is BECAUSE of the lockdowns - that immune systems have not been subjected to the daily assault they normally get and are thus compromised.

One of many reasons we should never have closed schools.
IDK about that. I avoid people as much as possible, mostly because I hate most people and I almost never get sick, do have some allergies though.
 

ArkRescue

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Did you have shots/boosters?
Yes I had the original 2 shot series of Moderna early 2021 when the school system offered them and 2 boosters since then. The most recent Booster was in August 3 weeks before school started. I am waiting to be well so I can get the new booster which I think will help me more than the old one did. The limited studies done show that the newer booster is helping people over 50 the most.
 

ArkRescue

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IDK about that. I avoid people as much as possible, mostly because I hate most people and I almost never get sick, do have some allergies though.
me too I hate people too - go away - and I rarely got sick when I was a contractor in a cubicle.
 

ArkRescue

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Every year they push the flu shots. Flu shots seem to be less than 50% effective all the time. Sometimes it is far less, close to 25%. If that is the case, why are people getting the flu shot? Lets say it is greater than 50% effective. Then, I understand. But, less than 50% effective and still get it? How does it make any sense? And even if you do get it, do you know what jab you are "really" getting? Oh, I forgot. We trust then. We trust the CDC. And even better, we trust the same people who lied or squashed free speech about COVID-19 over the last three years and counting.

Prior to Covid the only vaccine I had as an adult was Tetnus and that was after stepping on a rusty nail. That was 8-10 years ago probably. I have never had the flu shot. I have had the Flu 2 times, 1979? and 2017. I don't do vaccines usually but Covid scared me so bad due to my age plus where I work is fully of germy children. Once I leave this line of work I will probably not get any more Covid boosters. I am being pressured to get the pneumonia and the shingles vaccines. I do now have compromised lung function so I probably I should get the pneumonia vaccine but only as long as it's a 1 time thing. I'm not getting into annual injections of anything. I don;t not socialize in person with people much so I shouldn't need to be vaccinated.

A millionaire that I know is purchasing land in every State. His belief is that starting from NOW to the future people will be starting to die from brain aneurysms. He is creating a National Cemetery business! Perhaps crazy? Or, sly like a fox? In fact, a Priest, Deacon and the Funeral Home Director in the County told me it is "already happening" locally. Perhaps it is from the virus itself? Maybe. Or, as the State of Florida appears to believe it may be from some of the vaccines. Time will tell.

The businesses profiting the most since Covid seem to have been those in the funeral/cremation/burial industries.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

I *have* heard a conjecture that the reason flu cases are up is BECAUSE of the lockdowns - that immune systems have not been subjected to the daily assault they normally get and are thus compromised.

One of many reasons we should never have closed schools.
Could also be, [more so highly probable], because of the shitty western American diet that people eat, along with a lack of exercise and adequate amounts of immune strengthening vitamin D.
 

PeoplesElbow

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Prior to Covid the only vaccine I had as an adult was Tetnus and that was after stepping on a rusty nail. That was 8-10 years ago probably. I have never had the flu shot. I have had the Flu 2 times, 1979? and 2017. I don't do vaccines usually but Covid scared me so bad due to my age plus where I work is fully of germy children. Once I leave this line of work I will probably not get any more Covid boosters. I am being pressured to get the pneumonia and the shingles vaccines. I do now have compromised lung function so I probably I should get the pneumonia vaccine but only as long as it's a 1 time thing. I'm not getting into annual injections of anything. I don;t not socialize in person with people much so I shouldn't need to be vaccinated.



The businesses profiting the most since Covid seem to have been those in the funeral/cremation/burial industries.
Only vaccine I ever wanted is the shingles one. Had chickenpox as an adult, that was not fun.

A friend of mine told me the pneumonia one is horrible, big needle, lots of cold stuff injected, and it actually hurts.
 

ArkRescue

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Only vaccine I ever wanted is the shingles one. Had chickenpox as an adult, that was not fun.

A friend of mine told me the pneumonia one is horrible, big needle, lots of cold stuff injected, and it actually hurts.
Mom can't recall if I had Measles, Chicken Pox, or both.
 

SamSpade

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For your consideration ...


Could also be, [more so highly probable], because of the shitty western American diet that people eat, along with a lack of exercise and adequate amounts of immune strengthening vitamin D.
I don't doubt that the average American diet is awful - but that's been the case almost my entire life.
The spike is recent, strongly suggesting a more recent change.
 

twinoaks207

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People like to speculate to stir up conversation. I thought I had a strong immune system before I started working in elementary schools in 2017. As soon as I can I will get my senior body away from schools because I am getting sick left and right. Covid started Oct 5th, and I never recovered completely. Last Friday Nov 4th I feel the raw throat again OMG no. I was hoping it was the Ragweed pollen but it persisted all weekend and I have felt progressively worse each day (same as the start of Covid) and today I am at work since if I don't come I don't get paid and I will call my regular Dr that I trust more and schedule to be seen there.
My doctor referred to Elementary schools as “Petrie dishes” and she was so right! Every year I would get a terrible sore throat cold in October and then again after the December Book Fair I always ran (ALL THE KIDS + a parent/family night + handling money handled by small children. The ONLY time I didn’t get sick was when we were teaching virtual. When the whole school population returned in September 2021, I lasted 3 days before getting sick, and that was WITH a mask! So yes, schools contribute to spreading illness and I can understand where lack of exposure to the common things had a possible negative impact on the immune system. I live with high risk folks so I always took precautions. I also relied on elderberry syrup along with required vaccines because, as Lightly Roasted said, our diets & eating habits are basically trash and I’m trying to rely a bit more on adding traditional natural herbal meds to supplement.

Take care of yourself & stay armed with what our darlings refer to as “hanitizer”. And seriously, try the elderberry thing unless your doctor says no. They have it as gummies now. (No, this is not “medical” advice as I am NOT a doctor, nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express! Just sharing what seemed to work for me and others I know. As always, follow the advice of your medical practitioner.)
 
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