Gospel of Inclusion.

[godsbutterfly]

I do say we all have one true God but when you and others mis-represent His character like some mean tyrant that burns people then it appears that is a fake man-made false God and that is why I call it your God.

In reality there is only one with many subordinates. God's judgement is far better then mankind's mis-judgement and on Judgement Day everybody gets saved.

The people of Noah's time will be resurrected too and then they too will believe and be saved link HERE.

Mark 6:11 (King James Version)
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11And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

That is the quote you referenced above, JPC, and it is talking about when God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrha for the sins the people were committing. He is saying in this verse that anyone who will not receive His disciples in His name will suffer more on Judgement Day AKA "the last day" than what Sodom and Gomorrha suffered. There is your proof right there that not everyone is saved.

 

[PsyOps]

Mark 6:11 (King James Version)
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11And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

That is the quote you referenced above, JPC, and it is talking about when God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrha for the sins the people were committing. He is saying in this verse that anyone who will not receive His disciples in His name will suffer more on Judgement Day AKA "the last day" than what Sodom and Gomorrha suffered. There is your proof right there that not everyone is saved.

What everyone reads.

What JPC reads --------->

 

[JPC sr]

The truth will set us all free.

Mark 6:11 (King James Version)
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11And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

That is the quote you referenced above, JPC, and it is talking about when God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrha for the sins the people were committing. He is saying in this verse that anyone who will not receive His disciples in His name will suffer more on Judgement Day AKA "the last day" than what Sodom and Gomorrha suffered. There is your proof right there that not everyone is saved.

It does not say that at all.

You have turned the whole text around to a completely opposite meaning then what Jesus said.

That verse says that the sinful people of both Sodom and Gomorrah will be there on the Judgement Day (not already in Hell) and it will be more tolerable for them, and that itself means a second chance (more tolerable for S & G) and not eternal burning.

I stand by mine as correct and yours is twisted.

 

[toppick08]

It does not say that at all.

You have turned the whole text around to a completely opposite meaning then what Jesus said.

That verse says that the sinful people of both Sodom and Gomorrah will be there on the Judgement Day (not already in Hell) and it will be more tolerable for them, and that itself means a second chance (more tolerable for S & G) and not eternal burning.

I stand by mine as correct and yours is twisted.

Rest assured JPC, you ain't got a snowballs chance in HELL to win Chit.

 

[JPC sr]

The truth will set us all free.

Rest assured JPC, you ain't got a snowballs chance in HELL to win Xhit.

It is not necessary to use dirty language here.

Going around the filter for profanity on the religion forun is not a nice thing to do.

It is not a competition where I am not trying to win or to beat anyone.

I try hard to respect other people's beliefs.

 

[This_person]

I try hard to respect other people's beliefs.

You do?

It does not say that at all.
I stand by mine as correct and yours is twisted.

It doesn't seem so.

 

[toppick08]

It is not necessary to use dirty language here.

Going around the filter for profanity on the religion forun is not a nice thing to do.

It is not a competition where I am not trying to win or to beat anyone.

I try hard to respect other people's beliefs.

I apologize to all the nice people logging in to hear(type) you spout your

 

[godsbutterfly]

It does not say that at all.

You have turned the whole text around to a completely opposite meaning then what Jesus said.

That verse says that the sinful people of both Sodom and Gomorrah will be there on the Judgement Day (not already in Hell) and it will be more tolerable for them, and that itself means a second chance (more tolerable for S & G) and not eternal burning.

I stand by mine as correct and yours is twisted.

Mark 6:11 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
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11And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.


I went to your link and copied and pasted so I twisted nothing. Okay, let's break this down shall we?
"Whosoever does not recieve you...etc." - that refers to the disciples
"Verily I say unto you..." "I" refers to Jesus speaking
"It shall be more tolerable to Sodom & Gomorrah in the last day than for that city" - Sodom & Gomorrah were already destroyed once by God for the actions of their people. Jesus is not pleased that His disciples are being rejected so he tells them if people reject them just shake off the dust of that place and keep on going and in the last days even Sodom & Gomorrah which is a sin-filled destroyed city will have it better than the place that rejected those who came in the name of Jesus Christ.

And that is the true untwisted version.

 

[2ndAmendment]

That is a common and big mistake in Christianity.

Claiming the Bible is the "word of God" as 2A does above and it is NOT.

The Bible itself tells us that Jesus is the "word" link HERE and not the Bible.

Many Christians make that mistake and it turns the Bible itself into a type of idol and then view the Bible in a wrong way.

Claiming it is the "written word of God" is only sugar-coating the error and that is not what 2A is saying above and it is not what Christians claim when they put their hand on the "Holy Bible" either.

Jesus is the word of God - not the Bible.

You are such a sorry confused person. The difference is Word and word. You really ought to stop trying to explain things of which you obviously have no concept.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I do say we all have one true God but when you and others mis-represent His character like some mean tyrant that burns people then it appears that is a fake man-made false God and that is why I call it your God.

In reality there is only one with many subordinates. God's judgement is far better then mankind's mis-judgement and on Judgement Day everybody gets saved.

The people of Noah's time will be resurrected too and then they too will believe and be saved link HERE.

You are the one misrepresenting God's word and plan. My sincere hope is you will be so embarrassed by your total loss in the primary that you will never come post on this site ever again.

Not everyone is saved! Many will join satan in the lake of fire.

 

[2ndAmendment]

It does not say that at all.

You have turned the whole text around to a completely opposite meaning then what Jesus said.

That verse says that the sinful people of both Sodom and Gomorrah will be there on the Judgement Day (not already in Hell) and it will be more tolerable for them, and that itself means a second chance (more tolerable for S & G) and not eternal burning.

I stand by mine as correct and yours is twisted.

You have a twisted mind. Therefore your understanding of anything not conceived in your own mind is twisted. You would not know the Truth if He came up to you in person.

JPC, Please seek mental help. I say this in all seriousness. You really need help.

 

[2ndAmendment]

It is not necessary to use dirty language here.

Going around the filter for profanity on the religion forun is not a nice thing to do.

It is not a competition where I am not trying to win or to beat anyone.

I try hard to respect other people's beliefs.

No you don't. You totally ignore other people's beliefs. You are totally self centered and others, including family, mean little to nothing to you. What you post affirms that. Your actions affirm that. You idea that deceiving the voters is OK affirms that.

 

[JPC sr]

The truth will set us all free.

Mark 6:11 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain

11And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

I went to your link and copied and pasted so I twisted nothing. Okay, let's break this down shall we?
"Whosoever does not recieve you...etc." - that refers to the disciples
"Verily I say unto you..." "I" refers to Jesus speaking
"It shall be more tolerable to Sodom & Gomorrah in the last day than for that city" - Sodom & Gomorrah were already destroyed once by God for the actions of their people. Jesus is not pleased that His disciples are being rejected so he tells them if people reject them just shake off the dust of that place and keep on going and in the last days even Sodom & Gomorrah which is a sin-filled destroyed city will have it better than the place that rejected those who came in the name of Jesus Christ.

And that is the true untwisted version.

What you have posted above is confusing.

The text of Mark 6:11 KJV is link HERE.

It says: "It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."

That means and it SAYS that the people of both Sodom and Gomorrha will be there on the Judgement Day,

as a second chance - because it will be "more tolerable" for them.

 

[godsbutterfly]

What you have posted above is confusing.

The text of Mark 6:11 KJV is link HERE.

It says: "It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."

That means and it SAYS that the people of both Sodom and Gomorrha will be there on the Judgement Day,

as a second chance - because it will be "more tolerable" for them.

I sincerely pray that God will open your blinded eyes so you may see reality before it literally smacks you in the face with "IF YOU'RE LIVING LIKE THERE IS NO HELL YOU BETTER BE RIGHT!"

 

[hvp05]

I sincerely pray that God will open your blinded eyes so you may see reality

Did you really consider to whom you were writing when you wrote that? This is a man who says...

What you have posted above is confusing.

... when reading plain English, and...

Everybody is smart enough to understand the Bible. Just skip any difficult part and go from the beginning to the end.

... when he gets stumped. The reason he quotes the same handful of verses is because that's all he's read and understood. (And even his understanding of those few is questionable.)

 

[toppick08]

Did you really consider to whom you were writing when you wrote that? This is a man who says...

... when reading plain English, and...... when he gets stumped. The reason he quotes the same handful of verses is because that's all he's read and understood. (And even his understanding of those few is questionable.)

You know, JPC ought to win his election bid. I say this because in true politician form, HE SEEMS TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING.

 

[JPC sr]

The truth will set us all free.

I sincerely pray that God will open your blinded eyes so you may see reality before it literally smacks you in the face with "IF YOU'RE LIVING LIKE THERE IS NO HELL YOU BETTER BE RIGHT!"

I live as though I care about God,

and I do not live in any fear of being tortured in that mystical Hell.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I live as though I care about God,

and I do not live in any fear of being tortured in that mystical Hell.

Just like you cared about your son. The Bible is very clear about the lake of fire.

 

[PsyOps]

JPC... simply put "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" (John 14:6)

You defy this basic premise. By doing do so you promote a false argument. It answers to Jesus' claim that "Many false prophets will arise and deceive many; and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved." (Matthew 24:11-13)

In other words, those that do not perservere will NOT be saved. In other words, some will NOT be saved.

 

[JPC sr]

The truth will set us all free.

JPC... simply put "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" (John 14:6)

You defy this basic premise. By doing do so you promote a false argument. It answers to Jesus' claim that "Many false prophets will arise and deceive many; and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved." (Matthew 24:11-13)

In other words, those that do not perservere will NOT be saved. In other words, some will NOT be saved.

He is talking about this present world - here and now.

Jesus message can save people now from addictions and from injustices and God gives His followers the ability to move mountains in this world of sin.

When He said such things as feed the hungry or cloth the naked or visit those in jail and etc., then that meant save them now in this life and not after they are dead.

Salvation from sin mean here and now, and not saving from torture in Hell after death because God loves His enemies and after death from this world there will be no more tears and no more pain and suffering.

The truest punishment is to live this world being lost.