Honest Opinion and/or Insight

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
I'm going to disagree here. Eating junk and wearing comfy clothes will make her feel worse. She needs to be out and about doing things! Take a walk (raise your endorphins!), dress nicely, and go have fun! Don't sit home and wait around.

Ahh, my reasoning was to have her work things out on paper in her room, such as priorities, and don't come out until she's evaluated her life herself. Then she comes out gets all dressed up and is revived and rejuvenated.

But I understand your point as well.

So maybe OP you should get all dressed up, go out and take a notebook with you. :lol:
 

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
OMG all of you are too funny! I was laughing so hard I almost cried haha! :killingme

Women read WAAAY more into it than a guy can even think up... She should watch "He's Just Not That Into You" this weekend... twice.

Ugg I hate that movie. Probably because its brutally honest :wink:

I did misunderstand and was worried you were here without a support network.

Then you are doing way better than most, and trust me you have a lot going on that makes you the most worthwhile thing ever. But take this weekend to think about if you want to stay with him yourself. You may discover some things that surprise you.

So now my advice is to hide your phone from yourself, stockpile your favorite bad foods (doritos, chocolate, ice cream - whatver) in your room, put on your comfy clothes, and start listing things you'd want to change in your life (both the things you have control over and those you don't) and the things that make you happy, and the things that he does that makes him worthwhile and the things that he does that doesn't make him worthwhile, and then visualize where you want to be in 20 years. Then sit back and take stock and see where he fits in the big picture.

And check with your job/insurance and get your own counseling. Miscarrying can be quite tramatic and some women need a sounding board to work out the hormones, and feelings and all. There is no shame in that. :huggy:

good luck and best wishes for your happiness.

Thank you! :smile: I think I may take your advice and take this time away from him to reevaluate things. I did this similar thing when I first found out I was preggo back in March. My verdict back then – if he changes A, B and C we’ll stay together. I confronted him with it, he made the changes and hes actually stuck to them! :yay: Which is good because they weren’t really changes relationship wise, but more changes in himself. Anyway, Im sure it couldn’t hurt to bust out the ol’ notebook again.

Or you could simply go out and get laid.

Good advice… but I just cant do that. I’d probably cry :lmao:

if a dude tells his gf, u can`t make it w/o me. that`s bs. totally.

cut yr w/e losses, there`s always better tosses.

Well he’s never said that to me. Im honestly surprised at your honest attempt at good advice! Props, Lance :lol:

Has anyone else noticed that she is conveniently ignoring comments from the guys? Well, ok.... some of them she should.....

Oh I didnt mean to! Its just that the comments from some of the hott chicas/mamas on here caught my attention more :biggrin:

I'm going to disagree here. Eating junk and wearing comfy clothes will make her feel worse. She needs to be out and about doing things! Take a walk (raise your endorphins!), dress nicely, and go have fun! Don't sit home and wait around.

I think Im going to spend a lot of time at the barn and riding my horse. Any time spent at home will probably involve cleaning my room, kitchen, saddle, etc., and/or a NyQuil induced slumber :lmao:
 

rpexie

.:Georgia Peach:.
Just give him some space to work things out in his head. Don't text him or call him. Give him an opportunity to think and to miss you. You two have been through a lot and he probably just needs some time to himself. And when he gets home Sunday, make sure your legs are shaved and you smell good!

:yeahthat:

It might help if you made some plans and went out with your girlfriends, just dont sit around him on baited breath hoping for a change of heart. If he sees you doing your own thing he might snap out of it and think, "I dont want to lose this girl!" However, if youre moping around hurt and upset he may think "I need to cut my losses so I dont have to feel guilty everytime I look at her."

Just my two cents, but I think guys are always more attracted to a girl when they know she doesnt need them.
 

Nucklesack

New Member
Sorry guys, but this is a long one...

My boyfriend and I have been together for over 4 years. We started dating when I was 18 and he was 21; we're now 22 and 25 respectively. We've been through a lot together in these 4 years... Along with the trials of every day life, growing up and becoming an adult, we've dealt with a year-long long-distance relationship (I met him when he was in the Marine Corps and he was stationed in NC), we've been through one deployment together, his subsequent injuries, surgeries, and ongoing recoveries. He was with me the night my horse died. We made a baby together... he was with me when we found out she had died at 12 weeks 6 days. He stayed by my side through my subsequent surgery and recovery. We've fought through that pain of losing the baby together. We've had A LOT of good times together, of course. But we have also had our fair share of the bad along with the good.

Now don’t get me wrong - things between him and I havnt always been rainbows and butterflies. We've had some massive fights, taken "breaks" (never lasted very long), etc. Most of it had to do with the fact that we were so young when we met and we both had a lot of maturing to do. The last "big" thing that had gone wrong in our actual relationship happened well over a year ago. Despite losing the baby in May of this year, we have been doing just fine. No true arguments (if we disagree on something we talk it out), no sleepless nights, no not-answering-the-phone-because-your're-mad, etc. We've just been doing good and really been enjoying being together. Lately, however, he has been acting a little strange. He seems distant. We spend tons of time together. He's not avoiding me. I know that by me saying "he seems distant" some may automatically think he is seeing someone else and/or has a guilt conscience because he has slept with someone else, etc. However I know my boyfriend... one of his best qualities is honesty and faithfulness. He has always been honest with me about everything, even if he knows it will hurt me. Im not worried about him seeing someone else... when I say "he seems distant," I mean that recently (within the past 2 months) hes been treating me more like a friend than a girlfriend. He dosnt put his arm around me when we sleep. He dosnt say "Hey baby" or "I love you" on the phone like he used to... he dosnt call me as much as he used to just to talk. Its to the point now that I am afraid to hug him in public because I am afraid he will push me away. I dont even think he realizes he is doing it... I think its a subconscious thing. Im not sure how to explain it.

Well we went camping together for the first time this past weekend. We had an absolute blast, just him me and the dog. But I dont think he kissed me not one time. So two nights ago I asked him if we could talk. I asked him if I had done something to make him mad. He said no, like I figured he would. I asked him if he was questioning our relationship. He said yes; like I figured he would. While I was expecting that answer, I wasnt nearly as prepared for it as I thought and I got very upset. He explained to me that he is sure that he loves me, that he always has and always will. He just isnt sure if we're meant to be together in the long run. Hes not sure if we're too much alike or just too different. He said that hes been treating us as more of a friendship in his mind, and its making him worry less and subsequently making him happier because he isnt stressed about our relationship. I told him I can tell the difference in the way he acts, and that I dont know why he would be questioning us if he loves me like he says he does. He says that him questioning the relationship dosnt mean that we're not together right now, but he just "needs to figure some things out." Hes not sure if he can get over things that have happened in the past.

Ever since we had that little talk two nights ago, he has kind of been avoiding me. Im worried that I got his mind working in bad ways; Im worried that hes thinking he should just call it quits. He has to work tonight so I wont get to see him, and he will be in DC from Thursday - Sunday for his Marine Corps reunion. The earliest I would be able to see him and actually talk to him is Sunday night, if he makes it home relatively early.

Here's what I am specifically asking for opinions on... Should I be worried that he'll call the whole thing off between him and I? Do you think I should just not text and/or call him this weekend and give him time to chill out, or should I continue to text him when I get off work, etc? Do you think his time away from me this weekend will help in the sense that he may miss me... or do you think it will fuel his questioning/indecisiveness? Should I be worried, or do you think him being away from me and having time to miss me is a good thing?

I am looking for honest opinions and/or insight on my situation. I know this is an open forum and so anyone can post anything, but I am asking those who read this to refrain from any smart @$$ remarks, etc. Im not asking people to sugarcoat things, but please try to keep any "useless" info (i.e. saying "Just leave him" w/o explanation, etc) to yourselves.

I feel rather ridiculous posting my business out there like this... I just cant stop thinking about it and could use some insight from complete 3rd parties. Thank you everyone

EDIT: I forgot to include some things that he said that really fuels my confusion on the whole ordeal. When we were talking he said that he loves me. He loves me more than hes ever loved anyone else and he always will love me. He wants to grow old with me and have babies and make a life together. He loves the great times we've had together and wants to create more good memories. Hes just not sure that we're compatable; hes not sure if we're too alike or too different.

Thats the part that makes no sense to me... Im so confused. If he loves me like he says he does (and hes not the type to sugarcoat things to make it easier on people, including me) and wants to grow old with me and make a life together, then any is he questioning things? What is there to question?! I, personally, think he is "waiting for the other shoe to drop." He was really thrown through a loop when I miscarried... And now we've been doing really well but between the baby and other things that happened in the past, he's just stuck on waiting for something bad to happen.

What kind of tent ?
 

spinner

Member
if you can't look at your partner and know with all your being you are loved then it might be time to rethink your situation. because it isn't living if you are second guessing your relationship all the time. I was married for 28 years, we might have not always liked each other but there was never a time we didn't feel loved.
 

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
if you can't look at your partner and know with all your being you are loved then it might be time to rethink your situation. because it isn't living if you are second guessing your relationship all the time. I was married for 28 years, we might have not always liked each other but there was never a time we didn't feel loved.

But thats the thing... I feel loved. I know he loves me. Not just because he says it, but because I know him. I wholeheartedly believe that he loves me and always has. I could just tell that he had something on his mind and when I asked "Are you questioning our relationship?" I hit the nail right on the head. I know him that well - I knew thats what the problem was. But thats what I dont understand... I dont understand how he can love me but think we're not compatible. I mean, its crossed my mind before that maybe we're not right for each other. But its always been a fleeting thought (Im sure everyone feels that way about their SO at one point or another), and I've never acted on it because of how I feel for him.

I think hes making a mountain out of a molehill... waiting for the other shoe to drop. I think that since things are going so right for us right now, hes expecting something bad to happen. I think its all fueled by the fact that things were going so great before, when I was pregnant. And then out of no where, I go in for a regular appointment and they cant find the heartbeat. :frown: There were no signs. I did everything right. Baby just didnt make it... I think hes stuck on something I said to him after my surgery - "If we didnt have bad luck we have no luck at all."

The thing is, since nothing bad is happening, hes almost subconsciously creating a problem with our relationship. I know that sounds stupid, but I know him. Yes, men are simple creatures and he holds true to that. But he twists his brain around like a woman does sometimes, I swear :lol:

Im trying really hard to not contact him in any way. Its hard though. I want so badly to tell him that us not being compatible is all in his head. But I know its probably best if I just give him time to be with his guys and just relax and clear his head. Its just hard to wait around for him to call me...especially since knowing him and his work schedule, he wont call until hes been home for a day or so. Im dreading the thought that he may come home and act on this crazy notion that we're not compatible (according to him, we're "technically" still together right now). I want to say that I am more leaning toward the fact that he'll realize hes acting crazy and just forget the whole "we may not be compatible" thing... but I cant tell if thats how I really feel, or if thats just me being optimistic...
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
But thats the thing... I feel loved. I know he loves me. Not just because he says it, but because I know him. I wholeheartedly believe that he loves me and always has.

So what's the problem and why did you feel the need to confront him with your non-existent fears?

I dunno...when I was younger I kind of enjoyed the drama of some guy who wasn't into it. The thrill of the chase - "WHY don't you want me, Fabio!!!???" Now that I'm older, I vanish at the first sign he's dicking me around.
 

spinner

Member
Well part of the know you are loved is also complete trust. Trust in your partner to be able to work things out for themselves, trust in yourself to let them. As you get older and you go through life experiences you start to see things differently. One of the biggest lessons for me is that only person I have any control over is myself and the way I react to situations. No matter how hard you try or how much you want to you can't fix another person. You have to trust he can work through this in his own mind, even if you don't like the outcome.
Not to get into any big discussion but it's kind of a Zen principal that sometimes you have to step away and let people have their own experience. Everybody has a journey to travel, seperate but connected in a way, does that make sense? You are a part but not the whole. So for now, let him work through this and do things that feed your soul and make you happy. You sound like you have alot going for you, so take care of yourself.
 

Booboo3604

Active Member
But thats what I dont understand... I dont understand how he can love me but think we're not compatible. I mean, its crossed my mind before that maybe we're not right for each other. But its always been a fleeting thought (Im sure everyone feels that way about their SO at one point or another), and I've never acted on it because of how I feel for him.

Part of the maturing process is being able to accept that sometimes while somebody is a good or a great person, that doesn't necessarily equate that they are are a good or great person FOR YOU. And unfortunately he may be coming to terms with that....

But at this point you have no control what so ever on his choice or his decisions so as with anything, you need to look at what is best for you. Like others have said, don't call or text him. Believe me, I know its hard when you feel like you are losing him. But being only 27 myself, I remind myself that humans and animals are similar in terms of human nature. The more you try to confine an animal or tie it to your yard, the more intriguing over the fence, down the street, and out of the neighborhood seems. And in the end, you only want him to stay if that's what he TRULY wants. I have learned that when you pressure someone, you either get the exact opposite of what you are looking for (sometimes just out of spite) or if they give in only to appease you, you are getting what you want for the wrong reasons and it will only be temporary.
 

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
So what's the problem and why did you feel the need to confront him with your non-existent fears?

IDK... Im just stupid I guess. I guess it bothered me knowing that something was bothering him. So I tried to talk about it with him

I dunno...when I was younger I kind of enjoyed the drama of some guy who wasn't into it. The thrill of the chase - "WHY don't you want me, Fabio!!!???" Now that I'm older, I vanish at the first sign he's dicking me around.

I like the thrill of the chase, dont get me wrong. But not when it comes to the man I truly love (so cliché, I know). If its just some random guy, I wouldnt care if he were acting like this. But its just different... IDK. Like I said, Im just stupid I guess

Well part of the know you are loved is also complete trust. Trust in your partner to be able to work things out for themselves, trust in yourself to let them. As you get older and you go through life experiences you start to see things differently. One of the biggest lessons for me is that only person I have any control over is myself and the way I react to situations. No matter how hard you try or how much you want to you can't fix another person. You have to trust he can work through this in his own mind, even if you don't like the outcome.
Not to get into any big discussion but it's kind of a Zen principal that sometimes you have to step away and let people have their own experience. Everybody has a journey to travel, seperate but connected in a way, does that make sense? You are a part but not the whole. So for now, let him work through this and do things that feed your soul and make you happy. You sound like you have alot going for you, so take care of yourself.

Thanks, spinner, for the words of wisdom.

Sometimes you just have to give that 1 sincere guy a fair chance, before assuming.

Im trying…

If any1 ever read sumwhere what I feel are important ingredients to an Awsesome relationship are, I know dang well someone also has a Gr8 memory.

Trust, Communication, Loyalty, Understanding.

:yeahthat: And I don’t want to lose that :ohwell:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
IDK... Im just stupid I guess. I guess it bothered me knowing that something was bothering him. So I tried to talk about it with him

I don't think you're stupid, I think you're just young. It's fun and new, and you think putting up with broody men is part of the deal. As you get older, you realize life is too short to constantly be second-guessing your relationship.

But, hell - have fun with it now. I thought it was fun when I did it. :shrug:
 

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
Part of the maturing process is being able to accept that sometimes while somebody is a good or a great person, that doesn't necessarily equate that they are are a good or great person FOR YOU. And unfortunately he may be coming to terms with that....

I really hope you’re wrong. Im not saying “you’re full of shyt” or “that’s not MY situation”… because you may be right and that is the SAME goddam advice I've told friends who's relationships didnt end up working out. But oh God I hope you’re wrong

But at this point you have no control what so ever on his choice or his decisions so as with anything, you need to look at what is best for you. Like others have said, don't call or text him. Believe me, I know its hard when you feel like you are losing him. But being only 27 myself, I remind myself that humans and animals are similar in terms of human nature. The more you try to confine an animal or tie it to your yard, the more intriguing over the fence, down the street, and out of the neighborhood seems. And in the end, you only want him to stay if that's what he TRULY wants. I have learned that when you pressure someone, you either get the exact opposite of what you are looking for (sometimes just out of spite) or if they give in only to appease you, you are getting what you want for the wrong reasons and it will only be temporary.

I know I know… I keep telling myself to just leave him be and let him work things out in his own head. Im trying to not text or call… But like you said, its hard. But you are right – I don’t want to back him into a corner.
 

spinner

Member
Nobody thinks you're stupid, just young. We've all been through heartache before, if you haven't you really haven't lived.
As hard as it is not to call or text try looking at this time in a different way. I see it as you are giving him a gift of space and trust, I see you having a gift of time to examine what you want from your relationship. It's all in the perspective.
 

spinner

Member
:yeahthat: And I don’t want to lose that :ohwell:

It appears u already have lost some of the ingredients or they are/were just superficial.

I wish you the best. I can`t say what i`d like 2 here, b/c it would surely b misconstrued by quite a few, as they r dang good @ doin.

c i can tipe rite, if i wanna. ;-)

Meanwhile....tcob`n. Yep, that, + music. (94.1 here) btw if yr a beach fan, u`d have a blast, like just b yrself. those who never do, never will.[/QUOTE]

Is it me or is this just hard to read?
 
It appears u already have lost some of the ingredients or they are/were just superficial.

I wish you the best. I can`t say what i`d like 2 here, b/c it would surely b misconstrued by quite a few, as they r dang good @ doin.

c i can tipe rite, if i wanna. ;-)

Meanwhile....tcob`n. Yep, that, + music. (94.1 here) btw if yr a beach fan, u`d have a blast, like just b yrself. those who never do, never will.

Is it me or is this just hard to read?[/QUOTE]

Do you really attempt to read his posts? :twitch:
 

lnmarsh

Love * Luck * Faith
It appears u already have lost some of the ingredients or they are/were just superficial.

I wish you the best. I can`t say what i`d like 2 here, b/c it would surely b misconstrued by quite a few, as they r dang good @ doin.

c i can tipe rite, if i wanna. ;-)

Meanwhile....tcob`n. Yep, that, + music. (94.1 here) btw if yr a beach fan, u`d have a blast, like just b yrself. those who never do, never will.

Is it me or is this just hard to read?

Translation:

"It appears [I’ve] already lost some of what makes a good relationship (I think)

I wish you the best. I cant say what I want to on this forum because some people could/would take it the wrong way… some are good at that

See, I can type right if I want to

Meanwhile, take care of business. Focus on that and music (94.1 in FL). If you like the beach, you’d have a blast in FL where you can just be yourself. Those who never focus on being themselves never will be able to be true to themselves."

OMG… I can speak Lance-inese! :jameo:

:cds:

Lol jk :lmao: :howdy:
 

StrawberryGal

Sweet and Innocent
It appears u already have lost some of the ingredients or they are/were just superficial.

I wish you the best. I can`t say what i`d like 2 here, b/c it would surely b misconstrued by quite a few, as they r dang good @ doin.

c i can tipe rite, if i wanna. ;-)

Meanwhile....tcob`n. Yep, that, + music. (94.1 here) btw if yr a beach fan, u`d have a blast, like just b yrself. those who never do, never will.

Is it me or is this just hard to read?[/quote]

Yes, it is just hard to read. All of his posts are too painful to read and it makes my head hurt. I don't bother reading his posts.
 
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